New stadia/upgrades to be built if we win 2023 World Cup


New stadia/upgrades to be built if we win 2023 World Cup

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So it looks like we might actually win the rights to host the  women’s 2023 World Cup.

Usually there is a lot of development and construction ie new stadiums, upgrade to existing stadiums and new training facilities built leading upto and after the World Cup.

While I understand its not the men’s World Cup but I would be expecting some much need and substantial funds being put towards upgrades of the stadiums selected to host matches and future fund for new stadiums.

womens sport is going through the roof here and it’s a great vote grabber putting money into woman’s sport! 

So I expect the FFA to really get so traction and being in some dollars for infrastructure.

what stadiums need and upgrade? And what new stadiums around the country could be built or have been planned but awaiting funding?

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Brisbane Roars proposed $70m upgrade of (something, somewhere in Brisbane) is linked to this bid - as is investment in to training facilities (not necessarily Roars) 
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I’d be happy to see a new club get facilities so they are ready for expansion eg tassie getting a stadium 
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With only 3 years until the event, and a global economic outlook clouded by COVID, can’t expect anything too significant. 

The WA centre, Qld investment and the long discussed home of the matildas that Vic wants to build, these training facilities are likely all that can be hoped for. Those would be great additions though.

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Seems odd to expect there would be much if any stadia developments. 
I'm sure part of our bid was the fact we already have numerous stadia suitable for the tournament. Final at the MCG though most likely
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I wouldn't expect much investment in permanent infrastructure, if any. Victoria and Queensland only put forward one venue each, ACT wasn't interested at all, NSW not even bothering with making Western Sydney Stadium available and we've resorted to using the AFL oval in Launceston. They managed to twist the SA premier's arm into coughing up 3.5k temporary seats for Hindmarsh (like for the Olympics, nothing permanent) but that's about it I think. 
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kaufusi - 23 Jun 2020 11:52 AM
Seems odd to expect there would be much if any stadia developments. 
I'm sure part of our bid was the fact we already have numerous stadia suitable for the tournament. Final at the MCG though most likely

The MCG wasn't included in the bid, the final is proposed to be at Homebush.
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Melbcityguy - 23 Jun 2020 10:54 AM
I’d be happy to see a new club get facilities so they are ready for expansion eg tassie getting a stadium 

Should have been an awesome opportunity to build a modest rectangular stadium in Tassie, but obviously in the end they went with the AFL oval in Launceston.

What I really worry about now that it looks like we're gonna Bradbury this thing is that governments at various levels in the future will say "well that oval was good enough for the WWC, so why should we bother giving you any infrastructure now?"
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paladisious - 23 Jun 2020 12:13 PM
I wouldn't expect much investment in permanent infrastructure, if any. Victoria and Queensland only put forward one venue each, ACT wasn't interested at all, NSW not even bothering with making Western Sydney Stadium available and we've resorted to using the AFL oval in Launceston. They managed to twist the SA premier's arm into coughing up 3.5k temporary seats for Hindmarsh (like for the Olympics, nothing permanent) but that's about it I think. 

Bankwest was left alone for NRL.

 The new Sydney Football Stadium is included. And work has begun on it.
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Newy needs the ends seated. Grass hills passed the bar for the Asian Cup (though tickets could not be bought for them) but not sure if this would be acceptable for a FIFA event. Either way it needs to happen eventually and this will be a good reason to get it done finally.
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paladisious - 23 Jun 2020 12:13 PM
They managed to twist the SA premier's arm into coughing up 3.5k temporary seats for Hindmarsh (like for the Olympics, nothing permanent) but that's about it I think. 

Surely common sense suggests they can reconsider turning those 3,500 temp seats into 5,000 permanent seats? I think 20,000-22,000 capacity for Hindmarsh is all they really need going forward (unless there is an Adelaide Derby down the track)

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Newy needs the ends seated. Grass hills passed the bar for the Asian Cup (though tickets could not be bought for them) but not sure if this would be acceptable for a FIFA event. Either way it needs to happen eventually and this will be a good reason to get it done finally.

100%. i can see them looking at temp seats for this tournament. 


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AT a minimum, we should expect much needed investment in womens facilities.
I'm confident that will happen.

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Paul01 - 23 Jun 2020 12:39 PM
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Bankwest was left alone for NRL.

If the bid had any clout they could have negotiated to have the Sydney NRL sides manage with Penrith Stadium, Kogarah Oval, Shark Park, Campbelltown Stadium, Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt Oval and Woollongong for a couple of weeks.
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paladisious - 23 Jun 2020 1:49 PM
Paul01 - 23 Jun 2020 12:39 PM

If the bid had any clout they could have negotiated to have the Sydney NRL sides manage with Penrith Stadium, Kogarah Oval, Shark Park, Campbelltown Stadium, Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt Oval and Woollongong for a couple of weeks.

Hopefully that can still happen.

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The teams coming will need some good training facilities. Hopefully that will give clubs something.
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To be realistic, if we can get a few refurbishments to some existing stadium, sadly that will have to be considered a win. Although with Covid, it may be a way for the govs to get the economy moving

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“Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.”

”FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.”


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html

Dont see the point. Victoria should cancel the build.


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scott20won - 24 Jun 2020 12:16 AM

“Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.”

”FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.”


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html

Dont see the point. Victoria should cancel the build.


Seems a slap in the face to the efforts of Football Victoria, which is likely to see their proposed facility relegated to a secondary role. 

Honestly, likely best that FFA share the love and focus the women’s programs on the Melbourne facility and the Sydney one can be for the Men’s programs. 

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scott20won - 24 Jun 2020 12:16 AM

“Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.”

”FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.”


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html

Dont see the point. Victoria should cancel the build.


Lmao who cares. The other codes get away with ludicrous contradictory claims for their facilities, this just shows we're starting to figure how to play the game.

Might as well ride this wave and get funding for a home for the Matildas in Launceston whilst we're at it if it gets some facilities built. 

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scott20won - 24 Jun 2020 12:16 AM

Lmao who cares. The other codes get away with ludicrous contradictory claims for their facilities, this just shows we're starting to figure how to play the game.

Might as well ride this wave and get funding for a home for the Matildas in Launceston whilst we're at it if it gets some facilities built. 

There was a Lynch article last year saying they wanted a 5000 arena for smaller matches. Don’t think they should not build something but change the plan.

This week Lynch did another article with team 11 saying they are still interested.

Football Victoria could change plan to house themselves Team 11 and Matildas when they aren’t in Sydney. But to have 2 dedicated women’s national team faculties seem a waste.
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kaufusi - 23 Jun 2020 11:52 AM
Seems odd to expect there would be much if any stadia developments. 
I'm sure part of our bid was the fact we already have numerous stadia suitable for the tournament. Final at the MCG though most likely

Alternatively, bids are notoriously won & lost based entirely on how much profit FIFA can make from creating new infrastructure. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

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hopefully the event is a huge success and the authorities here are enthused to be a proper new sokka stadium in the cbd of Adelaide instead of only funding the local code
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kaufusi - 23 Jun 2020 11:52 AM
Seems odd to expect there would be much if any stadia developments. 
I'm sure part of our bid was the fact we already have numerous stadia suitable for the tournament. Final at the MCG though most likely

That will have the "Bananas in pyjamas" gnashing their teeth together in passive-aggressive fury if the final were to be played there!!

As that scenario would totally demolish their recently acquired and utterly undeserved title of Australia's most attended women's sporting event, that they can't seem to stop boasting about, even though this "mickey mouse" of a tournament was a complete failure with appalling low average attendance figures.


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scott20won - 24 Jun 2020 12:16 AM

“Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.”

”FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.”


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html

Dont see the point. Victoria should cancel the build.


Are YOU really a true Football supporter or one of these closet AFL supporters on this forum, pretending to be a Football surporter???


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paladisious - 23 Jun 2020 1:49 PM

If the bid had any clout they could have negotiated to have the Sydney NRL sides manage with Penrith Stadium, Kogarah Oval, Shark Park, Campbelltown Stadium, Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt Oval and Woollongong for a couple of weeks.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're not allowed more than 2 stadiums in 1 host city. So Bankwest is not needed if the SFS is completed on time. I'm more interested to see if the FFA will try to get Marvel Stadium included in the bid... just to outrage AFL bogans.  
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Feed_The_Brox - 24 Jun 2020 9:04 AM
paladisious - 23 Jun 2020 1:49 PM

correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you're not allowed more than 2 stadiums in 1 host city. So Bankwest is not needed if the SFS is completed on time. I'm more interested to see if the FFA will try to get Marvel Stadium included in the bid... just to outrage AFL bogans.  

Thanks to pala for this stat, but 7 out of 8 stadia for the Qatar World Cup are within a 15km radius. 
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Lmao who cares. The other codes get away with ludicrous contradictory claims for their facilities, this just shows we're starting to figure how to play the game.

Might as well ride this wave and get funding for a home for the Matildas in Launceston whilst we're at it if it gets some facilities built. 

You're a rare commodity on this forum my friend, as you actually "get" how this CROOKED system REALLY works and how we need to exploit it to benefit Football!

We've suffered through 15 years of the Lowy's "olive branch" diplomacy, of "turning the other cheek" in response to the media's relentless and unjustified attacks upon the game and where has Lowy's strategy gotten us????

I can certainly see ALL the benefits that the Lowy's have received from their strategy, but I'm damned if I can see any benefits that Football has received from it - It fact, where we are standing at this point in time, absolutely ZILCH, NOTHING, NADA!!!

Frank and Steven Lowy, NEVER ONCE stood up to the media to defend the sport, in fact they made absolutely certain that Football couldn't defend itself at all by virtually "hog-tying" Football's hands and legs behind it's back and "muzzling" any dissenters to their dictatorial rule. These two bastards are entirely responsible for the game's current situation.

I believe in the Buddhist concept of "Karma" where a person, who has intentionally caused serious harm to others is condemned to suffer retribution from "above" for the rest of their life for those sins.

In Frank Lowy's case, he is now suffering in his own private hell, caring for wife who suffers from a particularly debilitating form of dementia for the remainder of their lives, rather than flying all over the world enjoying their celebrity and fortune at Football's expense........................I'd call that Karma!!!

Anyway, it's way past time for the sport to "tear off" Lowy's restraints and start to assert ourselves confidently by "demanding our fair share!"

One act the FFA can achieve quickly, and send a powerful message of intent to BOTH the media and to rival sports, announcing the game's new "assertive, combative, take no prisoners attitude", is to call and ask both FIFA and the AFC to contact Chinese President Xi Jingping to ask him to ban the AFL's annual jaunt to Shanghai.

And another one, also ask President Xi, to force the closure of ALL of Ch7 proprietor Kery Stokes' mining business interests in China!

The huge profits Stokes receives from his Chinese mining interests are used to cross subsidise the massive losses from his virtually bankrupt Ch7 television network and in turn are used to fund BOTH the AFL and Cricket........................."That will kill two birds with one stone!!"

And let it be widely known that the FFA instigated the actions, in retaliation for years of discrimination and will be actively seeking out other entities who have wronged the game for similar treatment. 

If Football has learnt anything from the past 17 years, it is that the veracity of that old business adage - "Good Guys Always Finish Last!"

Personally I'm totally over the Lowy's "olive branch diplomacy", that has been championed by their slavish defenders, especially Midfielder.

It has been a "complete and utter failure"

Where has this totally useless strategy gotten the game?

As Einstein is believed to have once said - "Doing the same thing over and over again, but each time expecting a different result, is the definition of insanity"

Time for total rethink on strategy and a complete change of direction, punters!

We can't do any worse by adopting a more robust and aggressive strategy as the Lowy's way of doing things simply hasn't worked.


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scott20won - 24 Jun 2020 12:16 AM

“Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.

A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.”

”FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.”


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html

Dont see the point. Victoria should cancel the build.


I dont see why this is a bad thing? The more money invested into football infrastructre the better no?

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pv4 - 24 Jun 2020 9:49 AM

Thanks to pala for this stat, but 7 out of 8 stadia for the Qatar World Cup are within a 15km radius. 

considering Tasmania is 6 times the size of Qatar, that comes as no surprise. 
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Waz - 23 Jun 2020 10:46 AM
Brisbane Roars proposed $70m upgrade of (something, somewhere in Brisbane) is linked to this bid - as is investment in to training facilities (not necessarily Roars) 

Something somewhere in Brisbane is a perfect description 
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