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+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league.
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+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again.
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+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia.
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+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. and add p&r and the league will filter out the clubs that cant/wont/don't want to compete
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Just make the cap a FFP model on what is sustainable for each clubs earnings. It will allow small clubs to achieve whilst not going bankrupt. If a smaller club wants to spend more then they will need more investment in the club as opposed to a sugar daddy pumping money into it then losing interest. Pretty sure that is what they do in Germany
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+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. and add p&r and the league will filter out the clubs that cant/wont/don't want to compete p&r will never happen. A pipe dream.
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+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. No it wont and all this fear mongering is beyond dull.
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+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah.
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Removing the cap could potentially make the competition even more distorted.
Imagine SFC spending $5m a year and Jets $1m as an hypothetical.
The solution however exists all around us.
Tax over spending.Dont cap spending.
Instead of a cap have a tax free threshold say $2m.Tax over that and send the money into a pool to be distributed to all clubs sixth monthly.
Distributions can be even or weighted to clubs with lower revenue.
Add to that transfer fees and smaller clubs start to get more money
The solutions are there.But big clubs will still be able to be big and smaller clubs will at least be competitive.
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+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division. Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division.Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15... 100% incorrect on both counts.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division.Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15... 100% incorrect on both counts. Then get it done! Enough talk on the forums or the twitters! If they have the 10 to 15 mill a year then do it... Fuck consulting FFA, just start a rebel division lol! And don't go asking the a-league or FFA for the cash either. However I suspect we'll be waiting a long time before any if that happens...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division.Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15... 100% incorrect on both counts. Then get it done! Enough talk on the forums or the twitters! If they have the 10 to 15 mill a year then do it... Fuck consulting FFA, just start a rebel division lol! And don't go asking the a-league or FFA for the cash either. However I suspect we'll be waiting a long time before any if that happens... at 10-15M, NSD will spend more than most AL clubs, especially next year. FFA is the problem as they are now focusing on saving the AL and so wont allow the NSD to proceed. Rebel comp, yeah no worries.
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“ Let them pay what they want': Agent calls for A-League salary cap floor to goOne of Australian football's most respected player agents has called for the A-League to abolish not just the salary cap but also the floor, to enable clubs to spend as much, or as little, as they want on their squads. John Grimaud, who has teed up transfers abroad for many Socceroos and brought several high-profile imports to Australia, has accused both clubs and players of "complacency" and believes a serious shake-up is needed in how money is distributed in the local game to fix it....”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/let-them-pay-what-they-want-agent-calls-for-a-league-salary-cap-floor-to-go-20200805-p55iwd.html
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+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. 200 countries have P/R. 3 don't because......reasons.
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+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. 200 countries have P/R. 3 don't because......reasons. I know two of the three, who is the 3rd?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. 200 countries have P/R. 3 don't because......reasons. I know two of the three, who is the 3rd? Some shithole in the middle east I thought. Edit: here you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_football_leagues_without_promotion_and_relegationSo Gibralter, San Marino and the Philippines. What esteemed company we keep.
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+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. You dont need a cap to push the level down. We just have to accept that some clubs will focus on developing youth, which is not a bad thing. Think about it this way, the clubs will still have to spend a reasonable amount firstly because if they don't they dont they will be uncompetitive but secondly if they dont no one will come through the door. So the owners of the clubs know what they need to do, they dont need their hand held. Some of these lower spending clubs are already uncompetitive and that is with salary caps and everything attached. Just accept that their will always be big clubs and small clubs, just like everywhere in the world. We don't employ a European model. The European model includes P & R and yes it can work. We are a wealthy country playing a sport with the highest participation rates in the country and we can't get people to invest their time and energy in the A-league. Part of the reason is because its not the best league in the world, but you are not attracting these people anyway, the other reason is that the way you connect everyone to the A-league is by connecting the tiers. This idea that your little club can slowly work its way up the tiers through hard work, investment, ingenuity and graft over a period of time is something which resonates with every football fan worldwide. It might be a naive and romantic notion, but guess what, it works in football and always will. Now people are going to bang on if we had P&R how Woop Woop FC is going to come into the A-league at the expense of WSW or Victory or whoever. Really, people obviously dont have much of an idea on how P & R works. Clubs are chosen on merit so if it is Woop Woop FC it means they are there for a reason. Deal with it.............be a better club so that it doesn't happen and guess what, it won't.
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1) Get rid of the cap
2) Establish a minimum spend. .i.e. x number of players X minimum player payment.
3) Allow transfer fees
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+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. You dont need a cap to push the level down. We just have to accept that some clubs will focus on developing youth, which is not a bad thing. Think about it this way, the clubs will still have to spend a reasonable amount firstly because if they don't they dont they will be uncompetitive but secondly if they dont no one will come through the door. So the owners of the clubs know what they need to do, they dont need their hand held. Some of these lower spending clubs are already uncompetitive and that is with salary caps and everything attached. Just accept that their will always be big clubs and small clubs, just like everywhere in the world. We don't employ a European model. The European model includes P & R and yes it can work. We are a wealthy country playing a sport with the highest participation rates in the country and we can't get people to invest their time and energy in the A-league. Part of the reason is because its not the best league in the world, but you are not attracting these people anyway, the other reason is that the way you connect everyone to the A-league is by connecting the tiers. This idea that your little club can slowly work its way up the tiers through hard work, investment, ingenuity and graft over a period of time is something which resonates with every football fan worldwide. It might be a naive and romantic notion, but guess what, it works in football and always will. Now people are going to bang on if we had P&R how Woop Woop FC is going to come into the A-league at the expense of WSW or Victory or whoever. Really, people obviously dont have much of an idea on how P & R works. Clubs are chosen on merit so if it is Woop Woop FC it means they are there for a reason. Deal with it.............be a better club so that it doesn't happen and guess what, it won't. There won't be a any promotion and relegation in this country, you're not in reality. First the owners will block it, the a-l rights buyers will block it, they won't want any big/medium market teams to go down and be replaced by some shitty little npl club.
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Good interview with Moore.
In fact, he talks more about the level of player salaries, especially starting salaries for young players.
He feels the starting salary for a young teenager of $70k (plus super), is too high.
He's probably right, should really be halved in the new environment, although the PA will fight tooth and nail against that.
Clearly, you can't start an NSD if the minimum salary is $70k (or even half that), to be honest.
We know the A-League clubs are probably stonewalling to protect their turf, you can probably add the PA to that list, in the sense that they won't make it easy for a low-cost NSD to start up.
Little wonder there is zero progress on pretty much anything.
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Actually Moore answers a question on the cap and the salary floor at 41m
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Moore says we have to set up things like the rest of the world.
Set it up now, even if there's short term pain.
Get the base right, set up the infrastucture properly, then you can have growth.
But it it's done in dribs and drabs....
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Lucy made a good point, Charlesworth was really only interested in getting access to property, once the council dashed that, he wasn't interested anymore.
This is going to happen again, already with all these bids, so many are predicated on getting access to property - WU succeeded (for the moment).
This is really only an issue because we are selling licenses.
If you have a system of direct P&R, it becomes less of an issue because it's performance on the park which determines who goes up, and the likes of the Mariners end up getting relegated.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division.Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15... 100% incorrect on both counts. Then get it done! Enough talk on the forums or the twitters! If they have the 10 to 15 mill a year then do it... Fuck consulting FFA, just start a rebel division lol! And don't go asking the a-league or FFA for the cash either. However I suspect we'll be waiting a long time before any if that happens... * First of all ask yourself why it costs 10 to 15 million dollars a year to run a football club in Australia. As someone with more than a working knowledge of football club finance I find the costs involved at A League level to be quite frankly hilarious & staggering. A discussion for another day however. * Then ask yourself with that number has such a poor ROI. A League clubs are scarcely staffed yet still spend a massive amount of money. * Then consider why a NPL club who have managed their finances quite well for literally decades on end would enter into such a debilitating financial arrangement. Yeah/Nah. * What's the point of a rebel division? Unlike the FFA we're not at war with Australian football & have something more than self interest in mind. We want to work with the FFA & all stakeholders in the game. The AAFC has done very well in this regard. * Oh & by the way, NPL clubs have never & never will ask anyone for a cent unlike the A League clubs who have a good percentage of their salary cap paid for by the FFA & literally would not exist without them. Getting the picture now dopey?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x“ A-League players to push for overhaul of failing salary capThe A-League salary cap is not only failing in its stated aims but also “directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences”, according to the players’ union, which will this week step up a campaign to see it reformed.Discussions over the cap will be a key flashpoint when Professional Footballers Australia and clubs pick up discussions over a new collective bargaining agreement. It is understood the players will push hard for the cap to be abolished. Watch every match of the 2019/20 Hyundai A-League Season LIVE on Kayo. New to Kayo? Get your 14-day free trial & start streaming instantly >As revealed last week, it is feared that the standoff, and the looming cuts to the game’s salary cap for next season, could result in an exodus of the A-League’s biggest names.And that could be leveraged into calls to scrap the $3.2 million salary cap altogether.It is a position which has been raised previously by the players’ union, which argues it does little to promote competitive balance, nor the financial sustainability of clubs.And with the league facing a critical juncture, players believe now is the time to act.“The restraints imposed by the salary cap means that its ongoing operation requires continual agreement from the players and this agreement has always been highly conditional,” PFA co-chief executive Beau Busch told News Corp.“The players’ position is clear; the current model requires significant reform.“In its current form, the salary cap is not achieving its stated objectives and is directly contributing to a raft of negative unintended consequences such as extreme player churn and fan disengagement.”Last month, FFA chief executive James Johnson revealed the 11 principles upon which it was hoped Australian football could build and grow — with one being establishing a domestic transfer system which could reward clubs for developing and producing talent. However the PFA believes this would not be feasible while continuing to operate under a restrictive salary cap.“Attempts to introduce a domestic transfer system, while continuing to operate a salary cap, would be hugely problematic and is likely only to result in the further erosion of competitive balance and financial viability,” Busch said.When the COVID-19 shutdown hit, the financial instability of clubs was laid bare, with teams forced to stand down players and slash costs across the board.FFA was contacted for comment.” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/aleague-players-to-push-for-overhaul-of-failing-salary-cap/news-story/cac6d7b0c5aea89f9a152310683dff04 We've seen what happens when you poke holes in the salary cap, big teams start to win more (syd fc melb city) and smaller teams start to lose more. This will be exacerbated by a full removal of the cap. It will probably end the league. The smallest club (Mariners) has already won 4 of the last 6 wooden spoons, so the salary cap isn't working to begin with. May as well set minimum pay levels, set restrictions on foreign players, and let the clubs just spend whatever they can afford Ideally, the Mariners would have been relegated by now, but that's another discussion again. Push the cap down to a level most clubs can afford. Straight cap of around 2 mill, no loopholes except for 1 or 2 marquee spots, 3+1 for foreigners. Need to get the league competitive again, smaller teams are being left behind. This has made the long a-league seasons tedious and boring as it becomes more predictitable. European models don't work in Australia. Australia is different, we're so unique blah blah blah. yet it works near on everywhere else barring the few exceptions...... WTF some people. We have P&R right now in PL comps but not our plastic unique no1 league. We sure need the pipedream for this is not going to work in the future period. Smaller Clubs left behind, nothing new here, thats competing in top flight, you either work smart or your back down thats competing in sport. I suppose jegga wishs for a no contest league in the future, all are winners no losers just as was introduced for the Jnrs. You guys have been talking about p&r for like 5 years now. Still nothing has happened even for 2nd div. These npl clubs don't have 2 dollars to rub together let alone enough to run they're own division.Nothing has happened in 5 years, nothing will happen for another 15... 100% incorrect on both counts. Then get it done! Enough talk on the forums or the twitters! If they have the 10 to 15 mill a year then do it... Fuck consulting FFA, just start a rebel division lol! And don't go asking the a-league or FFA for the cash either. However I suspect we'll be waiting a long time before any if that happens... * First of all ask yourself why it costs 10 to 15 million dollars a year to run a football club in Australia. As someone with more than a working knowledge of football club finance I find the costs involved at A League level to be quite frankly hilarious & staggering. A discussion for another day however. * Then ask yourself with that number has such a poor ROI. A League clubs are scarcely staffed yet still spend a massive amount of money. * Then consider why a NPL club who have managed their finances quite well for literally decades on end would enter into such a debilitating financial arrangement. Yeah/Nah. * What's the point of a rebel division? Unlike the FFA we're not at war with Australian football & have something more than self interest in mind. We want to work with the FFA & all stakeholders in the game. The AAFC has done very well in this regard. * Oh & by the way dopey, NPL clubs have never & never will ask anyone for a cent unlike the A League clubs who have a good percentage of their salary cap paid for by the FFA & literally would not exist without them. Getting the picture now dopey? The a-league is paid for by largely by fox and other revenue sources. And I'm talking about 15 mill collectively, not 1 club. To pay for logistics of running a national comp. That's a rough and very conservative estimate. If the nsd can find a tv producer dumb enough to fund a division of two bit clubs then go for it i say. Or if the can collectively subsidise that amount forever then more power to them. But do not touch the a-l finances. I don't want the a-l tethered to an impending financial clusterfuck.
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