Good post. The only thing I'll add is that for as long as Chinese investment broadly is allowed in Australia by Australian law, and trade tensions or not at present we do still trade with China, I really don't see how or why FFA or anyone in football should stand in the way of this if the financial and moral credentials of the new owner (not the state) stacks up. Its not Australian Football's job or place to crusade against Chinese interests in this country or anywhere else. If the threat really is that serious our governments and diplomats need to protect us, not the FFA.

By the way, doesn't this forum have mods anymore? I'm sure some of the stuff in here would have been nipped in the bud in the past... 

Typical response for someone who has no clue. 

LOL

In a resort somewhere

America hasn't been a democracy in a long time.  

I think not.

Is the United States a one-party autocratic state? No, it's a federal constitutional republic whose president is elected by way of democratic vote.
Does the United States have a president for life? No. They can be voted out every four years.
Does the United States have no concept of civil liberties? No. It has a constitution which enshrines civil liberties.
The Declaration of Independence which foreshadowed it is based on the same Lockean ideals which inform the main articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Are you allowed to criticise the state in the US? Yes. Freedom of speech is guaranteed by the First Amendment.
Does the United States have a judiciary which "manages" a 99% conviction rate? No.

Is the United States the world's foremost hegemony? Yes.
Has the United States done terrible things? Absolutely. Invasion of Iraq, extrajudicial killings, drone strikes which have killed innocent civilians, napalm in Vietnam, destabilising democratic governments in South America, terrible treatment of people of colour, Latinos and poor people within the United States. The list goes on and on. Nevertheless, while the US has an average human rights record, China's human rights record is non-existent. You can't say anything critical of the state lest you be labelled a "separatist".

You have just painted "a life-like picture in words" of...................................................................................the U.....S......A!

Their "hegemony over the world" since WW2, has almost destroyed it!!!

My loose understanding of it is because CCM comes with a lot more debt.

I think I recall seeing to get to the 15m licence fee, the Jerks were looking at around 11-12m to the owner whereas CCM were 3-4m. I remember reading into it more a while back, but in essence it told me Jerks were about 3-4m in debt where CCM were around 11m in debt. 

At the very least, the People's Republic of China aims to be the world's most powerful superpower with the ability to do anything it wants to do and for the West to accept it with no protest whatsoever. As you say, by any and every means possible. And it's incumbent upon the West to take the necessary measures to contain such expansion and, publicly, to stand up to CCP bullying.

Whether the CCP actually wants world domination is less clear to me. But just wanting to become the world's foremost hegemony, while being a one-party autocratic state (with a ruler for life) and no concept of individual liberties, is enough to warrant swift, decisive and multilateral action from other countries with opposing values.

Agree with everything GA has said on here.  Does that mean other countries aren't up to shady shit?  Of course not but I'd take a corrupt US over the Chinese government every day of the week.

They are overtly and covertly playing a long game of world domination by any and every means possible.

Add middle east monarchies to the list of cunce that shouldn't be allowed to buy into the A league.

Any chance we can stick to Newcastle Jets and create a special thread for world politics elsewhere?? 

Yeah with WA wanting to do that, problem is that the population is extremely tiny, and defending it will be an impossible task.

Their government will also be hard left as well.


that is correct. they are continuing what the Black Panther Marxist group has started in the 1960s

Absolutely, authoritarian rule, border expansion and human rights abuses need to be address, not necessarily by the FFA though.

It doesn't even really need to be addressed by this thread either I guess.

BLM founders on record stating that they are trained Marxists. BLM is not black lives matter, one is a political movement and the other is common sense.

I love how people who cannot discuss the genuine threat the CCP (it's a political party not a people FFS) immediately call the people who don't conflate melanin levels a subcutaneous fat deposits with ability as racists.

If you think a group of people are incapable of success because of inherent characteristics you are the racist. If you think a group of people are hateful because of their inherent characteristics then you are a racist. As soon as you stop dealing with someone as an individual and instead as a member of a racial group, then you are a racist.

Yeah, I modified my comment just after you posted.  I agree.  But they are throwing their weight around too much for comfort at the moment.  

I mean, I would never suggest we bar the buyout of the Jets!   Like you I welcome the investment.

So why do we dismiss the aggression of America?

I would rather bring China around through a global alliance of liberal, democratic nations than atagonise them into conflict whilst simultaneously breaking up global alliances and retreating to rampant nationalism and isolationism and trade wars.

That is my two cents.

It is hard to see how the Jets fit into a geopolitical strategy, I admit, but it also has to be said that the trade relationship is currently highly problematic.

If you can link the owners to criminal syndicates then bring it forward, otherwise I fail to see what nefarious intentions the Chinese having by investing in an Australian football club. Otherwise it is just racists who don't want us to deal with the Chinese because they are Asians and commies and are plotting to take over the world an Qanon and shit.

Australia has a trade relation with China, deal with it.

breakers old stadium, currently a greyhound track

Just one more comment then I'll let it lie.

The character of an owner is relevant to football discussion. The game does not solely exist within the four corner flags or a stadium.

The US political discussion does not belong here but the Chinese government discussion does. In communist China there is no such thing as an independent company. If an owner or potential owner of any club was a convicted fraudster or paedophile, we would be discussing the situation just as much for the impact on our reputation and image, as much as on what it might actually mean physically and financially to the club and the game.

To label it "off track" or "three pages of political wanking" because you don't want to read about it or do not feel strongly about it does not make it irrelevant to either the thread or football.

I disagree strongly that the discussion was not initially relevant.

Funy thing is extreme lefties & extreme right are alot closer together then you think, give you a hint, the word Extreme.

Sure ye, didn't intend to be involved in that initially, you have a point dingbat, will do.

I'm just amazed there are even enough toffs in newcastle to support a Union community.

Shame the old breakers ground was lost to the game but no 2 does look like a decent facility in a good spot to host events in newcastle that don't require use of the main stadium. 

Guess I'll try to put this thread back on topic after 3 pages of political wank.

Best 2nd option for the Jets would be No.2 Sportsground which is much closer to the CBD but also would need some upgrades. W-League and Y-League already play a fair chunk of their games there. Throw enough dollars at it and it could be something akin to a smaller Hindmarsh. The Rugby Union toss pots believe they have a divine right to it but football seems to be using it more and more now (NPL grand final there this year).

Be great to keep this to the original topic , I mean if Ye want to debate current America and Chinese political policies I’m sure there are numerous other forums Ye can fuck off and use,. Thanks 

You have enlightened the people, piss off stupid! Join the defund the Police crowd!

so very jealous of a semi literate xenophobic multi troll.

congratulations, you have levelled up to Simpleton Highest Order

Can only hope. Not a fan of extreme lefties.

The DSA (Divided States of America) is heading for a massive breakup.

The "Liberal (Blue)" minded states simply can't tolerate remaining in a UNION with the RACIST/ANTI-ENVIRONMENT/ANTI-ABORTION/BIBLE BASHING REDNECKS & HYPOCRITES of the "Republican (Red)" states for much longer and WILL MOVE to secede from the union to set up their own country.

AND the same thing could happen here.