The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


The Aussies Abroad Thread 2

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CanberraHarry - 2 Jul 2021 1:12 PM
jaymz - 2 Jul 2021 9:46 AM

If he is clubless again for a number of months then you’d have to question his judgement. We’ve seen players in the past go through this and it rarely ends well, including Irivine himself, Arzani and Lucas Neill. Missing pre-season training with a club is never optimal. Mooy seems to be in a similar position. 

Pretty sure Mooy is grieving the loss of his brother 
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vincenzogold - 2 Jul 2021 2:45 PM
CanberraHarry - 2 Jul 2021 1:12 PM

Pretty sure Mooy is grieving the loss of his brother 


I think I read somewhere his widow and child are in Scotland as well, wouldn’t be surprised to see Mooy go to Celtic for that reason.

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Ouzounidis started in a friendly


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Ingham on the 61st minute against Kawasaki. Another farce, 8-0.


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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https://youtu.be/n7lbt67LA7g

Hannover vs Paderborn tomorrow. Iredale may feature. Game is at 11pm Sunday 
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johnszasz - 3 Jul 2021 2:57 AM
https://youtu.be/n7lbt67LA7g

Hannover vs Paderborn tomorrow. Iredale may feature. Game is at 11pm Sunday 

Shame Arnie picked Duke over Iredale for Tokyo, his insta post implied he wasn't picked rather than being blocked by his club.
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What’s with all the Japanese teams winning their games 8-0 and 9-0? Did they bring strong squads to the ACL and everyone else bring youth teams? Or did everyone bring youth teams and Japanese youth are just better than everyone else’s youth?
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paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 3:41 AM
johnszasz - 3 Jul 2021 2:57 AM

Shame Arnie picked Duke over Iredale for Tokyo, his insta post implied he wasn't picked rather than being blocked by his club.

Come on man, Iredale was woeful in Marbella. He had a lot of chances to show what he could do and didn’t take any of them. The Olympics is too important to take a player like that who has never shown any ability at senior level. Everyone else’s careers would be suffering if he was leading the line. 
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Bowden - 3 Jul 2021 11:55 AM
paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 3:41 AM

Come on man, Iredale was woeful in Marbella. He had a lot of chances to show what he could do and didn’t take any of them. The Olympics is too important to take a player like that who has never shown any ability at senior level. Everyone else’s careers would be suffering if he was leading the line. 

OK, so he was more than a goal or assist per game before his injury, but we'll put a line through him due a few friendlies that the coach wasn't even at?

In any case, if Duke was called up I'd like to know why Maclaren wasn't.

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Bowden - 3 Jul 2021 11:52 AM
What’s with all the Japanese teams winning their games 8-0 and 9-0? Did they bring strong squads to the ACL and everyone else bring youth teams? Or did everyone bring youth teams and Japanese youth are just better than everyone else’s youth?

It would appear that the Japanese sides brought their first teams considering that their Aussies are playing. I haven't seen any visa players in any of the Chinese lineups, but I have seen some very high squad/shirt numbers.
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Bowden - 3 Jul 2021 11:55 AM
paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 3:41 AM

Come on man, Iredale was woeful in Marbella. He had a lot of chances to show what he could do and didn’t take any of them. The Olympics is too important to take a player like that who has never shown any ability at senior level. Everyone else’s careers would be suffering if he was leading the line. 

I think he’s a good player but was was way short of match practice I Marbella. Similar to Taggart with the senior squad .
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paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 12:00 PM
Bowden - 3 Jul 2021 11:55 AM

OK, so he was more than a goal or assist per game before his injury, but we'll put a line through him due a few friendlies that the coach wasn't even at?

In any case, if Duke was called up I'd like to know why Maclaren wasn't.

he was playing in one of germany's many 4th tier competitions - not a very high level
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sportaddict - 3 Jul 2021 1:06 PM
paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 12:00 PM

he was playing in one of germany's many 4th tier competitions - not a very high level

And yet Paderborn in 2.Bundesliga think he's worth a shot at their level.

I'm all for picking seniors over juniors where needed to take it to some quality opposition, but if Arnie's not picking the best available in those positions then I don't see the point.

Tongyk obviously an different case being so close to the cutoff birth date.
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paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 3:41 AM
johnszasz - 3 Jul 2021 2:57 AM

Shame Arnie picked Duke over Iredale for Tokyo, his insta post implied he wasn't picked rather than being blocked by his club.

What has Iredale achieved in his career? The guy is 22 years old this year and played in the fourth division in Germany.

Yeah sure he played well for VFL Wolfsburg's second team but that means absolutely nothing. Con Ouzounidis looked decent at Everton's second team and he was rewarded with a contract in the Danish second division. 
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camberwelldorjes - 3 Jul 2021 1:40 PM
paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 3:41 AM

What has Iredale achieved in his career?

That's not really relevant to my point. Is Duke the best available player in that position? Maybe all of Maclaren, Taggart, Giannou or Tomi Juric turned down a callup or were denied by their clubs, but with half of the players I listed being in their A-League off-season I doubt this is the case.
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paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 1:39 PM
sportaddict - 3 Jul 2021 1:06 PM

And yet Paderborn in 2.Bundesliga think he's worth a shot at their level.

I'm all for picking seniors over juniors where needed to take it to some quality opposition, but if Arnie's not picking the best available in those positions then I don't see the point.

Tongyk obviously an different case being so close to the cutoff birth date.

Deni Juric should've been chosen. 
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sportaddict - 3 Jul 2021 1:53 PM
paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 1:39 PM

Deni Juric should've been chosen. 

Wow, I had assumed he was called up when I was making my earlier post about Iredale and went through the list of our strikers in my mind. That makes it so much worse.
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paladisious - 3 Jul 2021 1:51 PM
camberwelldorjes - 3 Jul 2021 1:40 PM

That's not really relevant to my point. Is Duke the best available player in that position? Maybe all of Maclaren, Taggart, Giannou or Tomi Juric turned down a callup or were denied by their clubs, but with half of the players I listed being in their A-League off-season I doubt this is the case.

Best available player up front is purely subjective. Nothing changes the fact Iredale has been playing exclusively in the fourth division of Germany and deserves a call up for the Olympics. How standards have fallen.
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do people realise that clubs dont have to release players right? 

Juric was just signed by Zagreb, 100% they wouldnt have allowed him to go. 

Imagine signing a player, and allowing him to play in the olympics and he goes and does his ACL. 

Gersbach, Duncan werent released by Arhaus, pretty sure it would the same case for Francois at Fulham. 

With regards to maclaren and Taggart. Maclaren's wedding has been postponed due to covid twice now, so doubt he'd want to go away and then have to do quarantine again. 

Taggart is coming off a massive lay off, he looks out of condition even in the ACL games. 

Giannou left camp cause of injury so probably why he wasn't considered. 

Theres also the fact it looks like japan could be going through a 4th or 5th wave of covid, a lot of players may have denied the call especially senior ones. 

Iredale not good enough for the squad, as someone stated he was woeful in the spanish camp. Id be asking why players like Tilio, O'neil and Parsons weren't picked

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jasongenova - 3 Jul 2021 3:49 PM
do people realise that clubs dont have to release players right? 

Juric was just signed by Zagreb, 100% they wouldnt have allowed him to go. 

Imagine signing a player, and allowing him to play in the olympics and he goes and does his ACL. 

Gersbach, Duncan were released by Arhaus, pretty sure it would the same case for Francois at Fulham. 

With regards to maclaren and Taggart. Maclaren's wedding has been postponed due to covid twice now, so doubt he'd want to go away and then have to do quarantine again. 

Taggart is coming off a massive lay off, he looks out of condition even in the ACL games. 

Giannou left camp cause of injury so probably why he wasn't considered. 

Theres also the fact it looks like japan could be going through a 4th or 5th wave of covid, a lot of players may have denied the call especially senior ones. 

Iredale not good enough for the squad, as someone stated he was woeful in the spanish camp. Id be asking why players like Tilio and Parsons werent picked

Your logic and common sense have no place on this forum.
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I feel like juric is on the verge of taking a big step up. Shame to not be involved  

I hope Australia moved heaven and earth to have him involved 
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patjennings - 3 Jul 2021 4:02 PM
jasongenova - 3 Jul 2021 3:49 PM

Your logic and common sense have no place on this forum.

Seems like mostly speculation on his part to me. I'd like to hear more verified evidence from the parties involved before I make up my mind.
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Al-Wehda have been relegated which is why they were keen to loan out Goodwin for another season.

They also have Dimi Petratos on the books and I would love to see him return to the Jets.
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Would have loved Deni to go but a 5 year deal with Dinamo Zagreb is a great move. I can understand if they wanted him to stay.
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jasongenova - 3 Jul 2021 3:49 PM
do people realise that clubs dont have to release players right? 

Juric was just signed by Zagreb, 100% they wouldnt have allowed him to go. 

Imagine signing a player, and allowing him to play in the olympics and he goes and does his ACL. 

Gersbach, Duncan were released by Arhaus, pretty sure it would the same case for Francois at Fulham. 

With regards to maclaren and Taggart. Maclaren's wedding has been postponed due to covid twice now, so doubt he'd want to go away and then have to do quarantine again. 

Taggart is coming off a massive lay off, he looks out of condition even in the ACL games. 

Giannou left camp cause of injury so probably why he wasn't considered. 

Theres also the fact it looks like japan could be going through a 4th or 5th wave of covid, a lot of players may have denied the call especially senior ones. 

Iredale not good enough for the squad, as someone stated he was woeful in the spanish camp. Id be asking why players like Tilio and Parsons werent picked

this 100%. tilio, parsons, armenakas, margush and o'neill the only players who are strange. Margush in particular. 
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patjennings - 3 Jul 2021 4:02 PM
jasongenova - 3 Jul 2021 3:49 PM

Your logic and common sense have no place on this forum.

Assumptions more like. No point speculating unless its been verified. 

Did make good points about Taggart and giannou though 
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Deng is starting for urawa currently 0-0 at ht
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Melbcityguy - 3 Jul 2021 8:52 PM
Deng is starting for urawa currently 0-0 at ht

Was subbed halfway through the 2nd half
Taggart not playing in tonight's ACL. He's missed the last two now
Cklamovski's J2 team won again

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Can't see whether Iredale is on the bench vs Hannover. Both teams playing their seasoned pro 11 today. Pre season camp next week. 
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johnszasz - 3 Jul 2021 11:34 PM
Can't see whether Iredale is on the bench vs Hannover. Both teams playing their seasoned pro 11 today. Pre season camp next week. 

Iredale not involved: https://www.scp07.de/Newsarchiv/Guter-Test.html
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