Disappointing  . ..

I guess the weather has been miserable in Melbourne like everywhere else.

7.5k city vs western 

The irony

That   sounds   sad   and   desperate . ..

Yeah Wellington, roar, wsw 

I don’t think it effects city to much our crowds stayed around the sand 

I remember the first four or five seasons of the A-League, the Roar had a terrible home record.

Anyone else hope in neutral games the home teams win so home crowds are encouraged to return? 😂 

City v WU: 8,500 (should be more but won’t be).
RB v MCF: 9,500 (Back at Suncorp should see a small lift).
CCM v Jets: 8,000 (weather will be a factor).
SFC v Vuck: 25,000 (I know they’re saying 30,000 tix sold, but Sydneysiders stay at home when its wet).
Nix v AU: 12,000 (First game will be a novelty).
WSW v PG: 8,500 (weather will be a factor).

Gotta love the weather ruining at least half the potential crowds for week 1. Absolute momentum killer.

Crappy weather over the country this weekend.
They are predicting 30k at the big blue tho 

Second largest Cup final attendance.  Well done SU58.

Looked pretty good on TV.

only   16k    at   the  cup    final   tonight ..  a  half- Empty    stadium ....  Very    Disappointing    for   a   supposedly  "big   game " .   

Opportunity   lost ...

Anyone got pax numbers for any of the first round games? Don’t see a lot of traction 

10k sold for Saturday night 

I did my crowd predictions before hearing about the Perth Glory Issues. Macedonia Park holds 7,000. It looks like a 30 minute walk form the closest train station. I’m not sure what parking is like. You can probably downgrade their average to 4,000-5,000. I’ll split the difference to 4,500.

I think 19,000 for Victory is too high. Our average throughout our history is 20,000. We would need to win the league with razzle dazzle football to return to those numbers so soon.

I think a good guide would be to take the average that Melbourne Victory obtains this season. Then take off 40-45% to get an estimate of the while league average. If Victory average 15,000, then the league average will end up around about 8,500-9,000.

You read a lot of negative opinions about the quality of the AFLW, but one extraordinary thing they've managed to do is get it up to a national 18 team comp.
I would expect support to be relatively low, although I just noticed on twitter that a daytime game played yesterday got a crowd of 6,552, which strikes as being more than acceptable.
I'm not sure if admission is charged.

So Perth are playing 10 out of 13 home games at a npl pitch which hopefully works out for them capacity of 7k I believe 

Looks like you're banking on everyone in the Top 3

Don’t think city will reach 9k the club hasn’t done enough to bring in people. I can see mariners and Adelaide hitting 9k 

That was the most important match in Oakleigh's history. What is their average crowd for a league match? A few hundred? You yourself have even lamented that NPL crowds are generally down from pre-Covid times.

The A-League consistently averaged 10-13,000 crowds before the pandemic. 22-23 is still a rebuilding year, but I think they will get close to that figure again. 23-24, with things stabilising and the WWC aftereffect, should see a return to the long-term average, at least for the pre-expansion clubs. Macarthur and WU's crowds are dogshit of course and that will take longer to rectify (if ever).

I would agree roughly with the league-wide average, but I think there will be a bigger spread of attendances. Macarthur and Western will struggle to hit 5000, and Perth's attendances will be impacted by their stadium issues (I can't for the life of me figure out how the government managed to stuff up the rebuild of Perth Oval so much).

But on the other hand I feel MV will have a good season on the park, and with Nani I think they will nudge 20,000. Sydney could end up with 15,000. If they get 25k for the home opener and a combined 70k for the two derbies with the Wanderers, their remaining matches only need to get to 10k to their other games to reach a 15k average. Likewise I can see WSW getting back up to ca. 12k if results go their way under Rudan.

So my predictions:
Victory: 19,000
Sydney: 15,000
Wanderers: 12,000
City: 9,000
Newcastle: 8,000
Adelaide: 8,000
Wellington: 7,000
Mariners: 7,000
Brisbane: 7,000
Perth: 6,000
Macarthur: 5,000
WU: 5,000

Average: 9000 (9800 excluding the two expansion clubs)

No, just a mid week semi final against a club that didnt even exist 2 years ago. and didn't bring more than a dozen or so travelling fans..  I thought the whole point of so called "professionalism" and moving away from pokey little suburban grounds was to drive attendance numbers north... If a "pass mark" for the Aleague's newest franchises is 5,000 average attendance AT AAMI and AFL ovals around the country then I would say that existing, low cost, semi-professional clubs with no advertising, broadcast revenue or exorbitant expenses have proved they can match or better it if given the chance.

You would think that after 4 years of "brand building", winning the Championship, and making huge leaps and bounds on their "shovel ready", "3 sided" "privately owned" "ground breaking ownership model for Australian football" super stadium, that WU would be aiming at a better attendance average than one off outliers for a no fans suburban club playing in an industrial park?

was that the Grandf Final? What is the home and away season average? For the NRL this year it was 16,000. so you expect the AL to match that?

5200 at an NPL suburban ground with no EFTPOS facilities and no toilets yesterday .... 
https://twitter.com/joeylynchy/status/1570010015762882560?cxt=HHwWgIDRtdDy5ckrAAAA
Surely APL clubs should be looking at 15-20K plus as a bare pass mark minimum average?
They do, at least, have budgets/resources at least 4-5 times the NPL clubs no?

They actually aren't bad guesstimates.
What struck me is that a lot has to go reasonably well just to end up with an average attendance of 8,700.
Since there always has to be one team, maybe two, having a disapppointing season, probably one or two won't meet those expectations, but 10 out of 12 probably will.

MVFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 9,473. Expectation for 22-23: 15,000.
- Based on no mid-week games, 2 home derbies and higher expectations.

WSW Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 7,381. Expectation for 22-23: 9,000.
- Based on pre-COVID Numbers. Maybe higher if they start well.

MCFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 6,530. Expectation for 22-23: 8,000.
- Same same based on pre-COVID Numbers.

AUFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 6,501. Expectation for 22-23: 8,500.
- The Eastern Strand upgrade is nearly complete I believe?

SFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 5,534. Expectation for 22-23: 12,500.
- Should get a big boost initially with the new stadium but will fall flat when they don’t get results.

NJFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 5,534. Expectation for 22-23: 8,500.
- Always punch slightly above their weight.

BRFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 4,500. Expectation for 22-23: 8,500.
- Nothing more than a guesstimate based on low finishing expectation.

CCM Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 4,296. Expectation for 22-23: 7,000.
- A more competitive team should see them at least match pre-COVID Numbers.

PGFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 4,281. Expectation for 22-23: 7,500.
- Nothing more than a guesstimate based on low finishing expectation.

WPFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 4,105. Expectation for 22-23: 9,000.
- After being away from home for so long, Nix fans will be hanging for live football.

WUFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 3,351. Expectation for 22-23: 6,000.
- As reigning champions, they need to see some growth in numbers, and I reckon they will.

MFC Average Crowd Numbers 21-22: 3,023. Expectation for 22-23: 5,000.
- They claim COVID prohibited them from being able to do community engagement. That excuse has now gone. Need to do better.  

League Average = 8,700

Should expect a big boost, of at least 20% i'd reckon