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PIFA - 7 Jan 2021 7:59 AM
Just saw yesterday that Stuart Munro has departed the Knights and taken a TD position at Dandy Thunder. Good solution for all, he looked like a disaster in the games played during 2020, with the season being cancelled probably saving Knights from the drop. Diogo Ferreira has joined the coaching staff at MK, but unaware if it's as the head coach or not.

Whatever happened to that Billy guy you had up front? Played a lot of top league in Greece iirc, came in with big wraps.
Yeah I heard that. FMD the Knights are brutal on their coaching staff and demand success.  It hasnt been a good decade for them and last year was a pretty touch and go, almost like our year the year before.
Big Billy Konstantinidis, I believe is playing in 3rd division back in Greece somewhere..Looked really good in pre season, played for Aris ( Jeggos club) when they where second division with a few cameos for teams in 1st division and was a Melbourne boy so didnt count as a visa player.. played a whole season as a classic target #9 minus a few rounds for disciplinary reasons and only managed 3, 4 goals from memory... His wife wearing really tight pants used to be one of the only things keeping us warm in the middle of the arctic NPL winter so there was at least some concillation for him not scoring.... on the pitch 🤣
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southmelb - 4 Jan 2021 2:00 AM
tsf - 3 Jan 2021 10:45 AM

Against Marconi, and he scored an even more absurd goal lobbing the keeper from way out later that game.

This was a memorable night as it was the only time I ever recall South pulling a large Friday night crowd.

i thought it was marconi. And thats right that lob. Forgot about that
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Just saw yesterday that Stuart Munro has departed the Knights and taken a TD position at Dandy Thunder. Good solution for all, he looked like a disaster in the games played during 2020, with the season being cancelled probably saving Knights from the drop. Diogo Ferreira has joined the coaching staff at MK, but unaware if it's as the head coach or not.

Whatever happened to that Billy guy you had up front? Played a lot of top league in Greece iirc, came in with big wraps.

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PIFA - 6 Jan 2021 8:14 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Jan 2021 10:32 PM

All good mate :D I could go on a giant rant about the state of academies in this country, but I'll refrain.

Getting back to Souths though: have you appointed a new head coach yet? I remember a while back seeing a job advertisement for the role, can't remember if a mate sent me it or not.

Yeah looks like we are giving Esteban a serious run at it this year as the squad seems to be pretty much at leat 80% his new signings. Apart from Schroen, Adams and Norton that he has inheritted from CT, the spine of the club is very different  and more than happy to give Sawyer and the new kid Hore a fresh chance to bang in some goals and show us what they are worth.. Schroen back from injury is huge as I can see him pairing well and mentoring Sylaidos in midfield. Elmazi is one of the shinning young cb for me of last seasons limited games and with new signing Jankovic from Bentleigh, who is a beast of a man and can bang in the odd header, looks like we finally have a back line with some strength AND a bit of depth in all 4 positions.... 
Ill keep my powder dry on Esteban for now, he seems a dedicated coach and a typical fiery Argentinean  but really seemed lost in big moments last year. Hellas have now (2020 aside) had 2 really atrocious seasons and ever since we sacked Chris Taylor the squad has been unsettled and the table shows that clearly...  A part of that was the playing group not respecting the seemingly endless procession of coaching "solutions" the board rolled out, lets hope that we got sone early runs on the board this season as South is one of those clubs that tends to implode easily when things dont go our way.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Jan 2021 10:32 PM
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Oh, much love for Boutsi from me, sorry didnt mean to sound like its his fault the system is broken here and the nc coaching isnt teaching the kids enough. The guy is making an honest living and totally agree that if I was to send my kids to an ex footballer to teach them the game, his number would be the first one I called.  Everyone complaining about how expensive soccer is in this country needs to be reminded of how desperate some parents are to make their children somebody famous.... were f#cked as a society, in 20 years there wont be any doctors or teachers but we'll be drowing in influencers and youtubers.. FMD.

All good mate :D I could go on a giant rant about the state of academies in this country, but I'll refrain.

Getting back to Souths though: have you appointed a new head coach yet? I remember a while back seeing a job advertisement for the role, can't remember if a mate sent me it or not.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jan 2021 10:42 PM
patjennings - 4 Jan 2021 2:14 AM

* Alex Dimitriades' character Nick is a trialling player for the South Melbourne Youth team in the Movie Heartbreak Kid - scenes where filmed at Prahran High ( a couple of the "actors" where teamates of mine and regular South attendees) and at Middle Park.. check out the Boutsianis night training scene.

Don't need to check it out - I've watched it a number of times.
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PIFA - 5 Jan 2021 12:29 PM
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Can't remember that, but it did seem like he was in and out of the squad quite a lot at times. Always seemed to pop up with huge goals for us, and he never seemed to score a "boring" goal either.

I actually think the goal of his academy is to actually produce good footballers, rather than fleece cashed up parents like a lot of the academies that I see operating in Australia. Have heard a few families that I know are paying $150+ a week for their kid to be in an academy, and the sessions are usually around an hour, sometimes a bit over an hour. It's an exorbitant amount of money really, but it's their money to spend at the end of the day.

Oh, much love for Boutsi from me, sorry didnt mean to sound like its his fault the system is broken here and the nc coaching isnt teaching the kids enough. The guy is making an honest living and totally agree that if I was to send my kids to an ex footballer to teach them the game, his number would be the first one I called.  Everyone complaining about how expensive soccer is in this country needs to be reminded of how desperate some parents are to make their children somebody famous.... were f#cked as a society, in 20 years there wont be any doctors or teachers but we'll be drowing in influencers and youtubers.. FMD.
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Didnt he also have some sort of issue with Perth because he wanted to wear his Copa Mundials and their boot sponsor was Nike or somethjng like that? Hahah what a Boutsi. Yeah like a lot of ex NSL players and some A league ones I believe, he seems to be making decent coin fleecing cashed up mums and dads who believe little Johnny and Jenny will be the next Messi or Ronaldo.. At least somone is happy with the way Lowey "saved" soccer in this country

Can't remember that, but it did seem like he was in and out of the squad quite a lot at times. Always seemed to pop up with huge goals for us, and he never seemed to score a "boring" goal either.

I actually think the goal of his academy is to actually produce good footballers, rather than fleece cashed up parents like a lot of the academies that I see operating in Australia. Have heard a few families that I know are paying $150+ a week for their kid to be in an academy, and the sessions are usually around an hour, sometimes a bit over an hour. It's an exorbitant amount of money really, but it's their money to spend at the end of the day.

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Henry looks like a very talented young player. Can play as deep as CM, or anywhere across the front-third from what I saw of him. Which admittedly is probably about 7-8 games over the years. His brother is all left-foot, so if oppo players force him to his right... he's effectively out of the game.

Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jan 2021 11:56 PM

I remember when Boutsi signed for Perth they started a "We're gonna rob a bank" chant on the terraces. Used to make me laugh so much :laugh: phenomenal player in a technical sense, and doing very well with his own academy from what I hear.

Didnt he also have some sort of issue with Perth because he wanted to wear his Copa Mundials and their boot sponsor was Nike or somethjng like that? Hahah what a Boutsi. Yeah like a lot of ex NSL players and some A league ones I believe, he seems to be making decent coin fleecing cashed up mums and dads who believe little Johnny and Jenny will be the next Messi or Ronaldo.. At least somone is happy with the way Lowey "saved" soccer in this country
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PIFA - 3 Jan 2021 8:10 AM

Thanks PIFA.. its Henry Hore btw looks like his brother is also coming to vic, I heard Bentleigh.  We didnt get too see much of Sawyer down here this year apart from pretty tame hatrick against Lions.. so keen to see what he can do with a strike partner.

Henry looks like a very talented young player. Can play as deep as CM, or anywhere across the front-third from what I saw of him. Which admittedly is probably about 7-8 games over the years. His brother is all left-foot, so if oppo players force him to his right... he's effectively out of the game.

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Hahahah yeah Boutsi the "getaway driver" Oceans 11 it certainly wasnt.. silly boy got hooked up with the wrong crowd. He could swing his left leg like a f#ckin surgical instrument though... sweet sweet striker of the ball and scored form the corner a couple of times, anywhere whithin 40 yards of the goals was on for a shot..... He was a bit of a lad off the pitch though, I remember the Hellas boys at Chasers and the Bot after a big win but I prefer to remember his stellar stunt double work for Alex Dimitriades in "the Heartbreak Kid" heheheh
SERIOUS QUESTION for the A league fans, has any A league franchise ever been referenced in an Australian Movie or on TV shows like Hellas did?


I remember when Boutsi signed for Perth they started a "We're gonna rob a bank" chant on the terraces. Used to make me laugh so much :laugh: phenomenal player in a technical sense, and doing very well with his own academy from what I hear.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jan 2021 11:56 PM

The Code Series 4  - Life with the Mariners. 

Nice, wasnt aware of this doco and will try and watch the whole series.
I was more wondering about Soccer as a sport or Soccer teams in general being referenced in general shows as part of the narrative or even in passing rather than a sport documentary per se. Like how West Ham Untd is a major part of the lives of the characters in Green Street  or Man Utd fans are shown in Eurotrip (two fairly poxy examples I know -  or even something  as minor as Wheels in Degrassi Junior High wearing an Footscray VFL top in the 90s even though the show was Canadian). I think it goes a long way towards mainstream acceptance if it is shown on tv shows ... certainly couldnt do any harm. The only ones I have seen in the last 40 years on Australian tv or in movies are the below, im sure there must be heaps more and wouldn't mind some shout outs so I could look them up.
*Russel Crowe (pre Gladiator fame) played Danny O'Brien a fictional South Melbourne Hellas player on Acropolis Now a tv show on, of all places, channel 7. This show actually mentions South many times as both main characters where supposedly mad Hellas supporters. Also mentions Brunswick Juve and APIA from memory
* Alex Dimitriades' character Nick is a trialling player for the South Melbourne Youth team in the Movie Heartbreak Kid - scenes where filmed at Prahran High ( a couple of the "actors" where teamates of mine and regular South attendees) and at Middle Park.. check out the Boutsianis night training scene.
*Mustangs FC on ABC is a decent teen show for womens soccer (my daughter loves it) and I get a buzz when they shoot scenes at Lakeside..
*One of the contestants on "Married at First Sight" a few years ago was a passionate Western Sydney Wanderers fan and had hats and scarves feature pretty prominently in the show.


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Hahahah yeah Boutsi the "getaway driver" Oceans 11 it certainly wasnt.. silly boy got hooked up with the wrong crowd. He could swing his left leg like a f#ckin surgical instrument though... sweet sweet striker of the ball and scored form the corner a couple of times, anywhere whithin 40 yards of the goals was on for a shot..... He was a bit of a lad off the pitch though, I remember the Hellas boys at Chasers and the Bot after a big win but I prefer to remember his stellar stunt double work for Alex Dimitriades in "the Heartbreak Kid" heheheh
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The Code Series 4  - Life with the Mariners. 
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tsf - 3 Jan 2021 10:45 AM
Used to love watching boutsi. From memory saw him score direct from a corner after a few attempts before it. 

The Chinese restaurant robbery story is mental.

Against Marconi, and he scored an even more absurd goal lobbing the keeper from way out later that game.

This was a memorable night as it was the only time I ever recall South pulling a large Friday night crowd.
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tsf - 3 Jan 2021 10:45 AM
Used to love watching boutsi. From memory saw him score direct from a corner after a few attempts before it. 

The Chinese restaurant robbery story is mental.

Hahahah yeah Boutsi the "getaway driver" Oceans 11 it certainly wasnt.. silly boy got hooked up with the wrong crowd. He could swing his left leg like a f#ckin surgical instrument though... sweet sweet striker of the ball and scored form the corner a couple of times, anywhere whithin 40 yards of the goals was on for a shot..... He was a bit of a lad off the pitch though, I remember the Hellas boys at Chasers and the Bot after a big win but I prefer to remember his stellar stunt double work for Alex Dimitriades in "the Heartbreak Kid" heheheh
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Are they talking about Henry or Mitchell? I'd hazard a guess that it's Henry, as Mitch is more of a creator from midfield. Long story short: Henry Hore is very good imo. Spent time in the NPL set-up with Perth Glory, where he was highly rated, but couldn't make the next step up into the first-team due to the club overrating Jake Brimmer, etc.

From what I saw of the QLD NPL this season, I really wasn't all that impressed with Sawyer, and he looks to have regressed since his time in the Philippines and Hong Kong. He looked a lot sharper to me when he was there to me, did things instinctively, rather than having to think about it first. He's possibly put on some size [muscle] and lost a bit of his pace, which would also play a part in that.

Hopefully Waz can give you a bit more info :)

Thanks PIFA.. its Henry Hore btw looks like his brother is also coming to vic, I heard Bentleigh.  We didnt get too see much of Sawyer down here this year apart from pretty tame hatrick against Lions.. so keen to see what he can do with a strike partner.
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Used to love watching boutsi. From memory saw him score direct from a corner after a few attempts before it. 

The Chinese restaurant robbery story is mental.

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Yeah fair enough, maybe hyperbole to compare Tommy with Klopp and Pep,  Id say better than Allerdyce but get your point. Still impressive for me that a coach if his status came to the bad old wog ridden NSL (he coached Olympic and Hellas if I recall correctly) I suppose the ♻️league had Robbie Fowler for a few months ... 

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Monoethnic Social Club - 2 Jan 2021 10:28 PM
Hey Waz or any of the other posters knowledgeable about QLD NPL.
https://mobile.twitter.com/smfc/status/1345241746410651649
Is Hore from the Lions any good? A few down here are talking up the Sawyer 
-Hore strike partnership, any inside info would be welcome.

Are they talking about Henry or Mitchell? I'd hazard a guess that it's Henry, as Mitch is more of a creator from midfield. Long story short: Henry Hore is very good imo. Spent time in the NPL set-up with Perth Glory, where he was highly rated, but couldn't make the next step up into the first-team due to the club overrating Jake Brimmer, etc.

From what I saw of the QLD NPL this season, I really wasn't all that impressed with Sawyer, and he looks to have regressed since his time in the Philippines and Hong Kong. He looked a lot sharper to me when he was there to me, did things instinctively, rather than having to think about it first. He's possibly put on some size [muscle] and lost a bit of his pace, which would also play a part in that.

Hopefully Waz can give you a bit more info :)

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Hey Waz or any of the other posters knowledgeable about QLD NPL.
https://mobile.twitter.com/smfc/status/1345241746410651649
Is Hore from the Lions any good? A few down here are talking up the Sawyer 
-Hore strike partnership, any inside info would be welcome.
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Docherty also coached 2 pretty unsuccessfully years at my club Derby County after a truly great coach in Brian Clough who you could compare to Pep or Klopp.

But Tommy a FA Cup & 2nd division premiership with Man U (this is how low Man U were in the 70s), CANNOT compare with Pep 2 champions league, 3 La Liga, 3 Bundesliga & 2 Premier league titles & Klopp 1 champions league, twice runners up, 2 Bunesliga 1 Premier league titles.

Please, huge character, yes, but terms of coaching definitely no Pep or Klopp, maybe more Sam Allerdyce.


Yeah fair enough, maybe hyperbole to compare Tommy with Klopp and Pep,  Id say better than Allerdyce but get your point. Still impressive for me that a coach if his status came to the bad old wog ridden NSL (he coached Olympic and Hellas if I recall correctly) I suppose the ♻️league had Robbie Fowler for a few months ... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Jan 2021 10:21 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/smfc/status/1344779535049342977
RIP Tommy Docherty. Legendary coach of both Manchester United and South Melbourne Hellas. For the youngsters, thats sort of like having Pep or Klopp coaching in the A league now.... 


Docherty also coached 2 pretty unsuccessfully years at my club Derby County after a truly great coach in Brian Clough who you could compare to Pep or Klopp.

But Tommy a FA Cup & 2nd division premiership with Man U (this is how low Man U were in the 70s), CANNOT compare with Pep 2 champions league, 3 La Liga, 3 Bundesliga & 2 Premier league titles & Klopp 1 champions league, twice runners up, 2 Bunesliga 1 Premier league titles.

Please, huge character, yes, but terms of coaching definitely no Pep or Klopp, maybe more Sam Allerdyce.


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https://mobile.twitter.com/smfc/status/1344779535049342977
RIP Tommy Docherty. Legendary coach of both Manchester United and South Melbourne Hellas. For the youngsters, thats sort of like having Pep or Klopp coaching in the A league now.... 


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Wnpl vic now confirmed 8 x teams 3 x round each ficture. How franchisy huh?.
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Thats a very hard question to answer middie. And a purely subjective one obviously. Over 60 seasons and I think at last count 50 soccerroos and at least a dozen other internationals its not easy to pick. Plus i am not old enough to have seen some of the older legends play as my earliest memories of Middle Park are say from 83_84 onwards... Anecdotally I remember Angie Postecoglous debut as one of my early memories, coming on for Alan Davidson who had swallowed his tongue and turned blue right in front of me..... exciting stuff for a young lad to see.
Anyway, my all time 3 favourite players, who incidentally never had the Socceroos careers I felt they deserved are Paul Trimboli,  Con Boutsianis and Mehmet Durakovic.  As for best ever 11, take your pick...
https://www.smfc.com.au/hallofchampions/
 

Just on Boutsi, it was his birthday yesterday apparently, thanks for the memories legend:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQzSU56XGeU 


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Arthur - 27 Dec 2020 2:58 PM
Melbcityguy - 22 Dec 2020 10:59 AM

At least you got away with this, in the past moderators have moved this type of thread to State Leagues.

No we are part of an approved geographic football zone now....  I think we are supposed to support Melbourne City or something??? 
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Midfielder - 27 Dec 2020 11:40 AM
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Be interested in two things from you.

1] Your top 3 players SM have ever  had, must have played for at least one full season, no guest players on short  term contracts.

2] Your first 11, again must have played at least a season i.e. no guest players on short term contracts..

Cheers

Thats a very hard question to answer middie. And a purely subjective one obviously. Over 60 seasons and I think at last count 50 soccerroos and at least a dozen other internationals its not easy to pick. Plus i am not old enough to have seen some of the older legends play as my earliest memories of Middle Park are say from 83_84 onwards... Anecdotally I remember Angie Postecoglous debut as one of my early memories, coming on for Alan Davidson who had swallowed his tongue and turned blue right in front of me..... exciting stuff for a young lad to see.
Anyway, my all time 3 favourite players, who incidentally never had the Socceroos careers I felt they deserved are Paul Trimboli,  Con Boutsianis and Mehmet Durakovic.  As for best ever 11, take your pick...
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Midfielder - 27 Dec 2020 1:37 AM
Just on the food thing ... how can you tell the Greek Team at the world cup... ????

There the team at the canteen walking backwards when holding their trays... [in case you don't understand walking back constantly defending never attacking]..



Hahaha very funny, and whats next are you going to tell me that they cant win a game because every time they get a corner they open a fish and chip shop? Hahahaha 🤗
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Melbcityguy - 22 Dec 2020 10:59 AM
I’ve noticed a lot of discussion on south Melbourne in other threads. I think we should limit our discussion in the relevant threads. Admins please close if you don’t want this thread. Cheers 

At least you got away with this, in the past moderators have moved this type of thread to State Leagues.
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tsf - 24 Dec 2020 4:04 PM
If you want a good Greek feed go to the club that Hellas steals their players from, Northcote City. 

They are our sister club. Agree on the feed.

South must have the worst social club service going around, they run the joint like a restaurant when all people want is food ready to go. Hopefully fixed for the upcoming season.
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Be interested in two things from you.

1] Your top 3 players SM have ever  had, must have played for at least one full season, no guest players on short  term contracts.

2] Your first 11, again must have played at least a season i.e. no guest players on short term contracts..

Cheers
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