Have ratings gone up or down this season


Have ratings gone up or down this season

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Anyone know if the ratings are still on a decline? Curious to see if haveinf exciting youth has made a difference to ratings 

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jaymz - 4 Jan 2021 9:02 AM
Anyone know if the ratings are still on a decline? Curious to see if haveinf exciting youth has made a difference to ratings 

You won’t know without the Kayo numbers. 
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Early days to tell. Perhaps My Football is getting some more. Internationally it seems so with a packed chat box and live viewing numbers. 
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Sadly none of the games yesterday made the top twenty for Foxtel. 
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Waz - 4 Jan 2021 9:41 AM
jaymz - 4 Jan 2021 9:02 AM

You won’t know without the Kayo numbers. 

Agree. The figures 
are meaningless without Kayo. 
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Melbcityguy - 4 Jan 2021 12:08 PM
Sadly none of the games yesterday made the top twenty for Foxtel. 

Where do you see this info out of curiosity?

I honestly feel like Fox does nothing to promote the league. A-League stories are overshadowed by stories of Steve Smith eating crayons on their website and on the kayo app I have to dig through the football section to find the game that is currently live as it's never on the main page.
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charlied - 4 Jan 2021 12:09 PM
Waz - 4 Jan 2021 9:41 AM

Agree. The figures 
are meaningless without Kayo. 

How is it that cricket games rate extremely well on the normal box? If hardly anyone is watching on regular fox realistically how many are on kayo?
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charlied - 4 Jan 2021 12:09 PM
Waz - 4 Jan 2021 9:41 AM

Agree. The figures 
are meaningless without Kayo. 


How are the figures meaningless ?

we just compare them with last seasons figures, which also didn’t include Kayo. 

Same with cricket and NRL and AFL and every other sport, no?



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Nunya - 4 Jan 2021 12:18 PM
Melbcityguy - 4 Jan 2021 12:08 PM

Where do you see this info out of curiosity?

I honestly feel like Fox does nothing to promote the league. A-League stories are overshadowed by stories of Steve Smith eating crayons on their website and on the kayo app I have to dig through the football section to find the game that is currently live as it's never on the main page.

I get it from tv tonight or sportsindustry Twitter 
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Footballer - 4 Jan 2021 3:01 PM
charlied - 4 Jan 2021 12:09 PM


How are the figures meaningless ?

we just compare them with last seasons figures, which also didn’t include Kayo. 

Same with cricket and NRL and AFL and every other sport, no?



Stop over simplifying the truth, Kayo is king with the new football crowd.... the reason views are so low is because all the young people are watching soccer on their phones, no-one over 18 likes soccer anymore and plus JB HiFi and Harvey Norman are going out if business because TV sales are dying...
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Ratings have been bobbling around in the sub 20k region for about 2 years now.
That ain't about to change all of a sudden.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jan 2021 11:11 PM
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Stop over simplifying the truth, Kayo is king with the new football crowd.... the reason views are so low is because all the young people are watching soccer on their phones, no-one over 18 likes soccer anymore and plus JB HiFi and Harvey Norman are going out if business because TV sales are dying...


You’re missing the point. 

The reason views are so low is bc so many people - years ago - tuned out of the ALeague. And there’s a whole bunch of reasons for that. 

Of course there are people who use Kayo. They use Kayo for a whole bunch of sports. 

But the ratings are not meaningless. We can compare this year to last year and the year before that. 

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I always had Foxtel. Now I don’t and activate and deactivate kayo each season. There must be heaps like me. And two devices means I share passwords so only one person pays. I do that with all my streaming services. Surely lots do that too. 
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bettega - 5 Jan 2021 12:10 AM
Ratings have been bobbling around in the sub 20k region for about 2 years now.
That ain't about to change all of a sudden.

Yep and it's not like the Kayo numbers are massive. (From what we have been shown/hinted over the years). Well at least no where near NRL or AFL kayo numbers. 
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Coverdale - 5 Jan 2021 7:24 AM
I always had Foxtel. Now I don’t and activate and deactivate kayo each season. There must be heaps like me. And two devices means I share passwords so only one person pays. I do that with all my streaming services. Surely lots do that too. 

I also had Foxtel for years and do the same as you with Kayo subscription, and as someone else said on this forum, my kids, the kids I coach and their friends all tend to watch most things on their phones and or tablets.
I am now hoping the Socceroos and A league games are either streamed by the FA or APL or go to Optus, if they decide to go with Optus I will cancel Telstra and move everything to Optus.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jan 2021 11:11 PM
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Stop over simplifying the truth, Kayo is king with the new football crowd.... the reason views are so low is because all the young people are watching soccer on their phones, no-one over 18 likes soccer anymore and plus JB HiFi and Harvey Norman are going out if business because TV sales are dying...

I'm actually way way out of my 20s and I watch mainly on my phone 
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I watch on kayo, and only for the A-league.  On a 120 inch screen.
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Fox box ratings have gone down from start of last season.. they are well down
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Average on Kayo is generally 15k per game
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TheRealFootballSupporter - 5 Jan 2021 7:32 PM
Average on Kayo is generally 15k per game

No it’s not. 
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Waz - 5 Jan 2021 7:52 PM
TheRealFootballSupporter - 5 Jan 2021 7:32 PM

No it’s not. 

What is it then? O'Rourke said that was the average last season, couldn't see it changing much from that.
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charlied - 5 Jan 2021 4:08 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jan 2021 11:11 PM

I'm actually way way out of my 20s and I watch mainly on my phone 

Thats terrible... 
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Enzo Bearzot - 5 Jan 2021 6:20 PM
I watch on kayo, and only for the A-league.  On a 120 inch screen.

Sure you do.... 120 inches hey... you must be a real man.... beard and everything. 
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Waz - 5 Jan 2021 7:52 PM
TheRealFootballSupporter - 5 Jan 2021 7:32 PM

No it’s not. 

waz, do you have kayo figures for the aleague ?

I too have only seen the figures that O'Rourke has referred to - about 15k average per game.
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I haven't seen any recent numbers, but just wanted to clarify something.
The Fox ratings we are used to looking at, generally, are averages, i.e. an average rating for a 2 hour broadcast.
So for a typical rating of 20k, for example, the peak audience might be, say 30k (the largest amount of people watching at a given point in time), while the reach might 40k,  which means the total people who dropped in and out during the course of the broadcast, meaning that on average the 40k watched half a game, giving you the 20k average (in simple terms).
The very occasional Kayo figures we see are often ambiguous as to what the number is referring to.
You can only really make sense of any number if we know for sure that it's the average rating, because that is the number we typically see and compare over the years.
Having said that, there is a very strong possibility that in the online world, the peak and reach numbers are going to be higher, in relative terms, than what you find in traditional broadcasting.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Jan 2021 11:23 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 5 Jan 2021 6:20 PM

Sure you do.... 120 inches hey... you must be a real man.... beard and everything. 

Do you know what a projector is, muppet?

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Enzo Bearzot - 7 Jan 2021 10:36 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Jan 2021 11:23 PM

Do you know what a projector is, muppet?

Do you know what a typewriter is, dildo?
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Footballer - 6 Jan 2021 12:13 PM
Waz - 5 Jan 2021 7:52 PM

waz, do you have kayo figures for the aleague ?

I too have only seen the figures that O'Rourke has referred to - about 15k average per game.

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Footballer - 6 Jan 2021 12:13 PM
Waz - 5 Jan 2021 7:52 PM

waz, do you have kayo figures for the aleague ?

I too have only seen the figures that O'Rourke has referred to - about 15k average per game.

Even O’Rourke hasn’t got the Kayo numbers. The only number the AL gets is the Foxtel number and the FoxTel Go number. 

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Waz - 11 Jan 2021 9:51 PM
Footballer - 6 Jan 2021 12:13 PM

Even O’Rourke hasn’t got the Kayo numbers. The only number the AL gets is the Foxtel number and the FoxTel Go number. 

And those numbers are (if you know)??.....

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