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It’s great news to see the European Super League fall piece by piece, and hopefully we start to find a way to develop a merit based competition here in future too.
The greed in the sport is slowly killing it, and moves like this just show the extent that the self interest exists.
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+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system  Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ That Russian Second Division though.... man they have 5 million dollar a year budgets..... Well gave a second division too when we can afford it.
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I in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl.
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+xIt’s great news to see the European Super League fall piece by piece, and hopefully we start to find a way to develop a merit based competition here in future too. The greed in the sport is slowly killing it, and moves like this just show the extent that the self interest exists. https://mobile.twitter.com/FootballAUS/status/1384774587741655041FA claim to have "protected the football pyramid in Australia" by the Aleague unbundling..... Ummm do they know WHAT shape a pyramid is?????? Holy shit, this isn't a bunch of plastics on an internet forum, this is the governing body......
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+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. Or Melbourne Victory?
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+x+xIt’s great news to see the European Super League fall piece by piece, and hopefully we start to find a way to develop a merit based competition here in future too. The greed in the sport is slowly killing it, and moves like this just show the extent that the self interest exists. https://mobile.twitter.com/FootballAUS/status/1384774587741655041FA claim to have "protected the football pyramid in Australia" by the Aleague unbundling..... Ummm do they know WHAT shape a pyramid is?????? Holy shit, this isn't a bunch of plastics on an internet forum, this is the governing body...... They meant pyramid scheme
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+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. I also see the same thing which is very interesting to watch the selectivity of certain views.
I often hear that people get bored of the A League as there aren’t that many teams and things get stale, but given no other sport in this country has a promotion and relegation system certainly is something to consider.
I want to see a merit based top tier but seemingly no one can find a way to Make it work. so the wait continues. It’s certainly been very silent from those clubs working on the NSD lately.
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+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. I also see the same thing which is very interesting to watch the selectivity of certain views.
I often hear that people get bored of the A League as there aren’t that many teams and things get stale, but given no other sport in this country has a promotion and relegation system certainly is something to consider.
I want to see a merit based top tier but seemingly no one can find a way to Make it work. so the wait continues. It’s certainly been very silent from those clubs working on the NSD lately. https://mobile.twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1384815873018396673
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+x+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. I also see the same thing which is very interesting to watch the selectivity of certain views.
I often hear that people get bored of the A League as there aren’t that many teams and things get stale, but given no other sport in this country has a promotion and relegation system certainly is something to consider.
I want to see a merit based top tier but seemingly no one can find a way to Make it work. so the wait continues. It’s certainly been very silent from those clubs working on the NSD lately. https://mobile.twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1384815873018396673 Thanks.
Has the final report been completed and handed to FA though? I see 2023 listed as a preferred start date but without any other detail it’s hard to see how far along things have progressed.
A NSD getting up and running, with promotion into the top tier within the first couple of years to expand the A League and then fully opening up a P&R structure as the next step will be a big step for the game here.
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+x+x+xIt’s great news to see the European Super League fall piece by piece, and hopefully we start to find a way to develop a merit based competition here in future too. The greed in the sport is slowly killing it, and moves like this just show the extent that the self interest exists. https://mobile.twitter.com/FootballAUS/status/1384774587741655041FA claim to have "protected the football pyramid in Australia" by the Aleague unbundling..... Ummm do they know WHAT shape a pyramid is?????? Holy shit, this isn't a bunch of plastics on an internet forum, this is the governing body...... They meant pyramid scheme Or maybe JJ is just another shit talker like the rest of them.....
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+x+x+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. I also see the same thing which is very interesting to watch the selectivity of certain views.
I often hear that people get bored of the A League as there aren’t that many teams and things get stale, but given no other sport in this country has a promotion and relegation system certainly is something to consider.
I want to see a merit based top tier but seemingly no one can find a way to Make it work. so the wait continues. It’s certainly been very silent from those clubs working on the NSD lately. https://mobile.twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1384815873018396673 Thanks.
Has the final report been completed and handed to FA though? I see 2023 listed as a preferred start date but without any other detail it’s hard to see how far along things have progressed.
A NSD getting up and running, with promotion into the top tier within the first couple of years to expand the A League and then fully opening up a P&R structure as the next step will be a big step for the game here. I don't know mate... not on the inside but speaking to a few that are it seems that the final report was completed last week (or maybe the week before????) It is with the AAFC member clubs for final revision and then waiting for FA to convene a meeting so it can be presented.. I've been whispered that it will happen but that most of us (non Aleague fans that is) aren't going to like it.... and as for pro rel to Aleague,,, that is decades away if ever..... The Aleague however will have lots of shiny new plastic entities to keep all the purists happy though, maybe as many as 4 in the next 2 years.... could be absolute bullshit and probably is but that's what I heard... And 2 backers are MLS clubs....
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+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ Don't forget this gem. huddo - 21 Apr 2021 3:36 PM because of a lack of funding Nth Queensland in their final year was forced into a bus trip to Perth, three days for one game,
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+x+x+x+xIt’s great news to see the European Super League fall piece by piece, and hopefully we start to find a way to develop a merit based competition here in future too. The greed in the sport is slowly killing it, and moves like this just show the extent that the self interest exists. https://mobile.twitter.com/FootballAUS/status/1384774587741655041FA claim to have "protected the football pyramid in Australia" by the Aleague unbundling..... Ummm do they know WHAT shape a pyramid is?????? Holy shit, this isn't a bunch of plastics on an internet forum, this is the governing body...... They meant pyramid scheme Or maybe JJ is just another shit talker like the rest of them..... Wooosh
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+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ Luch no longer exists, believe it of not, they failed because of financial instability. also may be good to point out that they failed after a prolonged run in the national second tier. So we'll done you found a team that proves my point.
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So we should kick Perth out of the HAL and let the pyramid work?
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+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. Or Melbourne Victory? No that’s my point. They’re against a-league system but rabidly follow afl etc. I know one for example who is very vocal on social media against the a-league (which is fine) but then follows the Melbourne Storm. A business entity of Rupert Murdoch.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't understand how people can be anti-Super League but pro-A League. It's the same concept. This is going to be a controversial opinion but it is my opinion. I think people need to realise that these owners have realised that these clubs are global brands and people will pay to watch them, whatever league they decide to play in. I think football fans are also at fault.. clubs were created to represent a geographical area and yet we have people on here who support clubs in London, Manchester, etc and they've never even travelled to that city for a holiday, let alone lived there. Watching them on TV is not the same, no matter what reasons you want to give me. I think a lot of people that are pro-A-league are also in favour of pro/rel in the A-league. You're either ProPyramid or not The A-League is a closed shop If you're Pro A-league, you're Pro Closed-Shop To say if your not one your the other, is a rediculous way to look at the world. It's all about positives and negatives, and we get alot more positives out of the closed shop at the moment, but that may change in the future - no relegation,
- no competition in your franchise zone
Go to Pyramid and all you're left with is the Trademark But who's to say the end result won't be to get them to open up, I know that's what FIFA want from us. Also licences aren't sold, their leased (the last renewal being until 2034), so re-evaluation can be done in the years leading up to that date as to whether P/R is a useful tool for the competition . You seem to be another who has fallen for the 2034 lie. Just cos Lederer or Nikou or Johnson waffles around it, get the facts   https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf Here you go Huddo 
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+xSo we should kick Perth out of the HAL and let the pyramid work? Distance is a major issue, money is the key issue, SKA in the Russian second division is comparable to Perth, the difference is SKA, it owned partially by the provence, and partially by a 80 billion dollar a year business, as stated before distance is an issue If you don't have money.
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+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. Or Melbourne Victory? Or South Melbourne in the NSL
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't understand how people can be anti-Super League but pro-A League. It's the same concept. This is going to be a controversial opinion but it is my opinion. I think people need to realise that these owners have realised that these clubs are global brands and people will pay to watch them, whatever league they decide to play in. I think football fans are also at fault.. clubs were created to represent a geographical area and yet we have people on here who support clubs in London, Manchester, etc and they've never even travelled to that city for a holiday, let alone lived there. Watching them on TV is not the same, no matter what reasons you want to give me. I think a lot of people that are pro-A-league are also in favour of pro/rel in the A-league. You're either ProPyramid or not The A-League is a closed shop If you're Pro A-league, you're Pro Closed-Shop To say if your not one your the other, is a rediculous way to look at the world. It's all about positives and negatives, and we get alot more positives out of the closed shop at the moment, but that may change in the future - no relegation,
- no competition in your franchise zone
Go to Pyramid and all you're left with is the Trademark But who's to say the end result won't be to get them to open up, I know that's what FIFA want from us. Also licences aren't sold, their leased (the last renewal being until 2034), so re-evaluation can be done in the years leading up to that date as to whether P/R is a useful tool for the competition . You seem to be another who has fallen for the 2034 lie. Just cos Lederer or Nikou or Johnson waffles around it, get the facts https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf Here you go Huddo What are you trying to point out, what I've been saying all along??? That at the moment they don't have a NSD for multiple reasons, but are working towards a NSD. And that the key to everything is preservation of the professional league.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ Luch no longer exists, believe it of not, they failed because of financial instability. also may be good to point out that they failed after a prolonged run in the national second tier. So we'll done you found a team that proves my point. You making shit up just proves your point is stoopid, Luch is still kicking and was still playing in 2020 although covid has impacted them like all of Russian football. Also note how many times they have been promoted to 1st div. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Luch_Vladivostok
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+x+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. Or Melbourne Victory? No that’s my point. They’re against a-league system but rabidly follow afl etc. I know one for example who is very vocal on social media against the a-league (which is fine) but then follows the Melbourne Storm. A business entity of Rupert Murdoch. I know mate, I agree with you. Just stirring really :)
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+x+x+xI in no way like a closed shop but I find it weird when you have people in Melbourne who scream for it but follow Melbourne storm (started by news Corp ffs) or rabidly follow the afl. Or Melbourne Victory? Or South Melbourne in the NSL No we were and ARE all for pro/rel, as long as we are not the club getting relegated......... :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't understand how people can be anti-Super League but pro-A League. It's the same concept. This is going to be a controversial opinion but it is my opinion. I think people need to realise that these owners have realised that these clubs are global brands and people will pay to watch them, whatever league they decide to play in. I think football fans are also at fault.. clubs were created to represent a geographical area and yet we have people on here who support clubs in London, Manchester, etc and they've never even travelled to that city for a holiday, let alone lived there. Watching them on TV is not the same, no matter what reasons you want to give me. I think a lot of people that are pro-A-league are also in favour of pro/rel in the A-league. You're either ProPyramid or not The A-League is a closed shop If you're Pro A-league, you're Pro Closed-Shop To say if your not one your the other, is a rediculous way to look at the world. It's all about positives and negatives, and we get alot more positives out of the closed shop at the moment, but that may change in the future - no relegation,
- no competition in your franchise zone
Go to Pyramid and all you're left with is the Trademark But who's to say the end result won't be to get them to open up, I know that's what FIFA want from us. Also licences aren't sold, their leased (the last renewal being until 2034), so re-evaluation can be done in the years leading up to that date as to whether P/R is a useful tool for the competition . You seem to be another who has fallen for the 2034 lie. Just cos Lederer or Nikou or Johnson waffles around it, get the facts https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf Here you go Huddo What are you trying to point out, what I've been saying all along??? That at the moment they don't have a NSD for multiple reasons, but are working towards a NSD. And that the key to everything is preservation of the professional league. FFA's only care about the ESL schmozzle is that FIFA are now going to be looking around at closed leagues USA is a big headache, but going after a minnow like Australia will be an easy target Next step - FFA suddenly getting all interested in helping the AAFC instead of being the ball-and-chain "Unbundling" was because they were forced to, Spin-Spin, now it's some kind of trophy
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ Luch no longer exists, believe it of not, they failed because of financial instability. also may be good to point out that they failed after a prolonged run in the national second tier. So we'll done you found a team that proves my point. You making shit up just proves your point is stoopid, Luch is still kicking and was still playing in 2020 although covid has impacted them like all of Russian football. Also note how many times they have been promoted to 1st div. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Luch_Vladivostok Also look at the fact they no longer exist.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't understand how people can be anti-Super League but pro-A League. It's the same concept. This is going to be a controversial opinion but it is my opinion. I think people need to realise that these owners have realised that these clubs are global brands and people will pay to watch them, whatever league they decide to play in. I think football fans are also at fault.. clubs were created to represent a geographical area and yet we have people on here who support clubs in London, Manchester, etc and they've never even travelled to that city for a holiday, let alone lived there. Watching them on TV is not the same, no matter what reasons you want to give me. I think a lot of people that are pro-A-league are also in favour of pro/rel in the A-league. You're either ProPyramid or not The A-League is a closed shop If you're Pro A-league, you're Pro Closed-Shop To say if your not one your the other, is a rediculous way to look at the world. It's all about positives and negatives, and we get alot more positives out of the closed shop at the moment, but that may change in the future - no relegation,
- no competition in your franchise zone
Go to Pyramid and all you're left with is the Trademark But who's to say the end result won't be to get them to open up, I know that's what FIFA want from us. Also licences aren't sold, their leased (the last renewal being until 2034), so re-evaluation can be done in the years leading up to that date as to whether P/R is a useful tool for the competition . You seem to be another who has fallen for the 2034 lie. Just cos Lederer or Nikou or Johnson waffles around it, get the facts https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf Here you go Huddo What are you trying to point out, what I've been saying all along??? That at the moment they don't have a NSD for multiple reasons, but are working towards a NSD. And that the key to everything is preservation of the professional league. FFA's only care about the ESL schmozzle is that FIFA are now going to be looking around at closed leagues USA is a big headache, but going after a minnow like Australia will be an easy target Next step - FFA suddenly getting all interested in helping the AAFC instead of being the ball-and-chain "Unbundling" was because they were forced to, Spin-Spin, now it's some kind of trophy Nice conspirisy theory, but the position of the Aleague hasn't changed from before to after the unbundling. It has always said P/R is the endgame privately and publicly.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't understand how people can be anti-Super League but pro-A League. It's the same concept. This is going to be a controversial opinion but it is my opinion. I think people need to realise that these owners have realised that these clubs are global brands and people will pay to watch them, whatever league they decide to play in. I think football fans are also at fault.. clubs were created to represent a geographical area and yet we have people on here who support clubs in London, Manchester, etc and they've never even travelled to that city for a holiday, let alone lived there. Watching them on TV is not the same, no matter what reasons you want to give me. I think a lot of people that are pro-A-league are also in favour of pro/rel in the A-league. You're either ProPyramid or not The A-League is a closed shop If you're Pro A-league, you're Pro Closed-Shop To say if your not one your the other, is a rediculous way to look at the world. It's all about positives and negatives, and we get alot more positives out of the closed shop at the moment, but that may change in the future - no relegation,
- no competition in your franchise zone
Go to Pyramid and all you're left with is the Trademark But who's to say the end result won't be to get them to open up, I know that's what FIFA want from us. Also licences aren't sold, their leased (the last renewal being until 2034), so re-evaluation can be done in the years leading up to that date as to whether P/R is a useful tool for the competition . You seem to be another who has fallen for the 2034 lie. Just cos Lederer or Nikou or Johnson waffles around it, get the facts https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf Here you go Huddo What are you trying to point out, what I've been saying all along??? That at the moment they don't have a NSD for multiple reasons, but are working towards a NSD. And that the key to everything is preservation of the professional league. FFA's only care about the ESL schmozzle is that FIFA are now going to be looking around at closed leagues USA is a big headache, but going after a minnow like Australia will be an easy target Next step - FFA suddenly getting all interested in helping the AAFC instead of being the ball-and-chain "Unbundling" was because they were forced to, Spin-Spin, now it's some kind of trophy Nice conspirisy theory, but the position of the Aleague hasn't changed from before to after the unbundling. It has always said P/R is the endgame privately and publicly. File that one with your Alice Springs Training Session
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xGoing to ask a simple question here and see what the resident brains trusts have to say. IF pro rel can work in 200 odd countries why do you not think it couldn't work here? Huddo can start. Unlike 200 odd countries the Aleague is a continental competition spanding the vastness of Australaisa (same goes for MLS for it CanadIan Clubs) WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL COMPETITION considering AL is modeled on MLS franchise system bit hard to try using it as a example of why that system is OK. With regards to distance that's such a lame excuse, Russia is bigger and wider and has full P/R so if they can manage why cant we? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_post_Soviet_Russia#League_system Australia is 0.45 times as big as Russia Russia,or the Russian Federation, is a transcontinental country located in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. It extends from the Baltic Sea in the west to the Pacific Ocean in the east, and from the Arctic Ocean in the north to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea in the south. Russia, the largest country by area,covers over 17,125,200 square kilometres (6,612,100 sq mi),spanning more than one-eighth of the Earth’s inhabited land area, stretching eleven time zones, and bordering 16 sovereign nations.
Correct me if I'm wrong the Russians don't include the east in there premier league, the longest distance in play is around 2000 km between Sochi and Ural, I may be off by a hundred if Zenit is further, the distance from Sydney to Perth is over 3200 km. Learn your league's. Pffft, what an amateur, learn to research proprly before pretending you know what you are talking about. Russian side Baltika Kaliningrad travel 13,000-miles for longest away match trip in world at Luch Vladivostok, taking handful of fans… to watch a 0-0 drawLuch-Energiya travelled nearly 6,500miles each way bore the bore draw in the second tier of Russian football at the weekend https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3134727/russian-side-travel-13000-miles-for-goalless-draw/ Luch no longer exists, believe it of not, they failed because of financial instability. also may be good to point out that they failed after a prolonged run in the national second tier. So we'll done you found a team that proves my point. You making shit up just proves your point is stoopid, Luch is still kicking and was still playing in 2020 although covid has impacted them like all of Russian football. Also note how many times they have been promoted to 1st div. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Luch_Vladivostok Also look at the fact they no longer exist. Irrespective the point remains that it could and can be done glass half empty bloke.
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+xSo we should kick Perth out of the HAL and let the pyramid work? No. Only if they finish last.
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+x+xSo we should kick Perth out of the HAL and let the pyramid work? Distance is a major issue, money is the key issue, SKA in the Russian second division is comparable to Perth, the difference is SKA, it owned partially by the provence, and partially by a 80 billion dollar a year business, as stated before distance is an issue If you don't have money. Already proved money for travel is not an issue either via gate takings, sponsorship, full or partial grant. If you care to take your head out of your arse you'd see it's eminently doable.
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