As Klopp said the same people who has got Liverpool to 71pts & top of table were the same who missed the goals on the weekend.

Klopp seems to be level headed. I think he called himself the quiet one, he's done a good job, albiet from a Man United fan.

Dont lose faith in Darwin mate.... remember Bobby's first couple of years he couldnt link up with Sturridge or Benteke to save his life, all running and no end result too.  It took Coutinho and Mane to come in before his "route to goal" sharpened up... Jurgen knows how to nurture and support creative players.... 

Mo is 1-2 yards of the pace these days, although did you see that sprint late in the second half during the turnover??? old man still has legs and an engine....

He'll be retiring to one of the "entertainment leagues" with Ronaldo or Messi soon I reckon., hope he gets the huge payday he deserves.

Klopp is a great coach, Pep has called him his greatest adversary & rightly so.

Only problem with Klopp is no good optometrist in Liverpool, he always sees the bad calls against Liverpool none of the bad calls that go for them.

Those losses to Fulham and Wolves could come back to bite him... If they won those...top 4 is probably wrapped up, now he will need to get points off the top 3.

9:30 tonight gotta love early kick offs. 

Was a dysfunctional watch, turned off at halftime.

He has City, Arsenal and Liverpool to come.  I think he will be on shakey ground.

Tottenham were really really really poor. Ange tactically outsmarted again. He is just so philosophically rigid and other teams can easily neutralise their tactics because they try to play exactly same way every single game.

How on earth did Brennan Johnson cost 50 million quid? 

For any of the Ange tactics knocking he isn’t on the pitch to win 50/50’s second balls etc and being half a yard behind.
Too s can play like that many times to the best have seen the exact play countless times.
Where was the spurs players hunger aggression and being first to the ball - talk about being out pressed and pressured to error - pretty simple stuff there to any top flight game.
As a player it’s in your own head to beat any opponent first and foremost then play to your gaffas instructions.

He sets himself for it by telling everyone that this is how he plays and he will not deviate because he *believes* in his system.  Now he can't change it becaus that would be an admission that his system is flawed and that he was wrong.

Spurs have rarely played his system anyway.

So has he lost the players?

I don't think Ange has the cattle to tweak much if he sticks to the same formation...... and no target man on the roster to keep low blocks guessing.
Timo Werner seems to cop it as a scape goat although I think he is best performing Ange ball outlet of the front three.

100% Spurs looked cooked before they set foot on the pitch .... Ive gotta say I wasnt a huge fan of the referring ... let some pretty nasty tackles go through and then booked VDV for pretty much the same tackle..... played a huge chunk of the game on a yellow and I reckon was the reason for the loose marking in the box..... .

Anyway, to comment on last night.... your point about Spurs players applied to ours as well.. WTF, it just seemed like there was an invisible wall infront of the Palace goal..... 

Popcorn scenario 1

Kane's goals give German Clubs the extra Champions League spot instead of 5th placed Tottenham

Popcorn scenario 2

Tottenham fans relying on Arsenal to win the ACL Final so that 5th place gets a Champions League Spot

Toons when on song really can play like a top 2 team, friggin Gordon hunts down pray like a lion - such a unassuming good player since leaving the toffs.
Leads from the front, and Isak is brilliant frontman.
I was happy with the aggro thought it went both ways, every game at St James park is similar.
No matter VDV on the yellow, whole backline couldn't cope many times.

yer were cooked and I think mentally more than anything else - oh throw in the countless lack of finish the last month.
I'll give kudos to the Eagles but damn talk about lady luck invisible wall you name it, we couldn't beat a feather by the end of the game :(
Only bright thing is that arse lost as well, was always gonna be city but had some hope.

Yes sad weekend for Spurs, Liverpool & Arsenal. 

Man City looking good though.

The bastards never seem to even break a sweat..... cant see them dropping any points in the last 6 rounds... unless their UCL and FA cup matches take a toll....  AAARRRGGGHHH they are so frustrating :P

Its crazy how much attacking talent England has when him and guys like Cole Palmer probably wont get into the starting 11 for the euros... id kill for one in the socceroos. 

Ange becoming super predictable, maybe he has the same issue Pep did? Where Pep went for good defenders at RB/LB rather than ball players, Royal is a straight liability at the back, Porro seems to struggle at times but good going forward.  

yep agreed, I'd take any as well.
Gordon, getting old now 23 lol but kicking butt, LFC/Toffs Jnr coming to prime, 6ft, mobile and talented he'd be cutting up asia.
Palmer is a goer and half.
19yrs Lewis, Pep is using more and more.
I hate to admit united's Mainoo @ 18 is stepping up in their midfield like mad.
LFC's Elliott is only 20.
Another young Toon is 17yrs Miley.
3Lions have alot of up and comers we'd take their 2nds any bloody day.

Ange needs to make very good use through the summer to pick his buys and places.
Lets not forget he's mostly got Conti's players.

A lot of chatter in the UK regarding Ange's "adaptability" to the EPL. 

Moving past the obvious clickbait, what is missed in much of the commentary is how average Spurs squad truly is. It's a mid-table squad at best, been left to rot for years from the post-Poch days. 

Guys like Vicario, Udogie & VDV are key players and its their first year in the league. Porro is a converted RB, Maddison has always been a half-season player, Son is not a 9 and Richarlison has been pants for years. 

IF Spurs make top 4 which is still very much in their hands, it will be a masterstroke by Ange. 

Why do you call Newcastle, “ Toons “ ?

My Newcastle born mate who moved here in his early 20’s long ago always calls them the Toons and it’s stuck since.
i know refers to the toon army and how town is pronounced.
Hardly know anyone call em magpies in fact none here.
https://lowerblock.com/articles/toon-army-why-are-newcastle-called-toon-army/

I would say there has been some element of naivety on Ange's part. Being in the best league in the world also means you're coming up against the best managers in the world. Eddie Howe taught him a lesson on Saturday.

But that's OK. He is in his first year and is still evolving. He will learn from it. I think the main problem he has right now is so many of his better player are badly out of form. Ange has done a great job in his first year, but Spurs are in danger of finishing the season in the same way as the previous season. Maybe the NLD is coming at a good time as they need something to spark them. 

F T B, what is NLD sorry if I should know.
I don't think its any case that Eddie taught him a lesson per say but that it was at St James Park, huge home advantage, no altering of tactics would have changed the tide of every single Toon player being on their A game way more than any spurs player, out of form in form sometimes you can't overcome the advantage a smothering adrenaline amped team everything clicking.
They have a more settled and rounded squad despite their position than Ange's.
Spurs have a 10point break which is damn handy considering what challenge they have ahead -

Arsenal @ H - biggest derby in sometime, gooners off a loss and spurs looking to hang in there - this will be a epic dual to watch me hope, hope Spurs do them.
Chelsea A - Pochs mob so unpredictable hard to pick ?.
LFC A - lol another unpredictable one - more so hope my LFC get the points considering the home record against them.
Burnley  H hard nut to crack but surely 3 spurs points.
City  H - well we know the expected result here.
Sheffield U A - surely 3points but I wouldn't bet on this one.

So lets say 9 points lost - they just might scrap P5, worse P6 ????

Howe didn't teach him a lesson.  Newcastle should have been 2 down inside the first 20 minutes if Tottenham had anyone not named Werner finishing.

Then van den Ven had a mare of game slipping at crucial moments for 2 or 3 of the goals.

Its individual player errors that have been his undoing for the most part.  His squad is mediocre.

hehe yep Werner, had his usual chances.
Were on the same page Enzo, its his cattle in many positions.
They play ok when they are on their game but pressed as good as they were the players were like rabbits in front of headlights.
The mention by someone re Maddison not being effective a whole season is pretty much right as well, again this comes down to cattle around you.
Anyway they are not my team but I obviously luv watching the EPL no matter who plays for its full on, I just hope Spurs do make Europe such a success for Ange and to rebuild/re-tweak and keeping United beneath them, win win.

Fair enough. You are the first person that i have ever heard refer to them as this.
Most of the Geordies i know, just stick to Magpies or " The Toon " .( singular )

You’re right that I should just say Toon mind you that’s my bad.
My mate is the only Geordie I know from there.