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Axe ‘terrible’ A-League 2nd division plans says former NSL star turned economist

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/axe-terrible-a-league-2nd-division-plans-says-former-nsl-star-turned-economist-565412



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I think he's right tbh. I just can't see how a fully pro NSD would be feasible.

I could see them getting a national NPL comp up and running but the gap between that and the A-League would still be huge.
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Inside Sport Bot - 3 Jun 2021 12:24 PM
Axe ‘terrible’ A-League 2nd division plans says former NSL star turned economist

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/axe-terrible-a-league-2nd-division-plans-says-former-nsl-star-turned-economist-565412



What an odd article to write Janakan, especially considering your role at Preston Lions:

"A number of these clubs who got relegated often went further down their state pyramid after leaving the NSL, showing how fiscally irresponsible they were." Hmmm you know who he is talking about here eh? Hope you don't lose a steady paycheck over this dude - good luck when the blockheads start putting two and two together. hahahahha

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Lol

Can't say I agree at all but still going to enjoy the mental gymnastics from mono trying to fit this into his simplistic A-league vs NPL clubs/Anglos vs ethnic/us vs them narrative.

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sydneyfc1987 - 3 Jun 2021 12:42 PM
Lol

Can't say I agree at all but still going to enjoy the mental gymnastics from mono trying to fit this into his simplistic A-league vs NPL clubs/Anglos vs ethnic/us vs them narrative.

Ive never heard of this former NSL "STAR" mate ....... he's entitled to his opinion.... no gymnastics here.
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Ive never heard of this former NSL "STAR" mate ....... he's entitled to his opinion.... no gymnastics here.

I just googled him. Literally nothing. Only this article. WTF. It's actually impressive that there are no other entries on google. I'd take the words 'star' and 'economist' with a giant grain of salt.
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Inside Sport Bot - 3 Jun 2021 12:24 PM
Axe ‘terrible’ A-League 2nd division plans says former NSL star turned economist

https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/axe-terrible-a-league-2nd-division-plans-says-former-nsl-star-turned-economist-565412



This bonehead doesn't realise that you need the stronger of the NSL clubs to come back to grow the game, so its not entirely cavernous!
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This bloke could be the Nelly Yoa of the NSL. No mention of him anywhere in the NSL records for Brunswick. Not sure how or why FTBL got onto him....

http://www.ozfootball.net/index.shtml

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AJF - 3 Jun 2021 1:34 PM
This bloke could be the Nelly Yoa of the NSL. No mention of him anywhere in the NSL records for Brunswick. Not sure how or why FTBL got onto him....

http://www.ozfootball.net/index.shtml

(great website in case you havent found it, although I am scared what Mono may do once he sees all the SMH games)


Hahahah Yeah I think Janakan pulled on old Yugoslav looking dude out of a cafe and said "You used to play in the NSL right, what do you think about the NSD?" hahahahahah.... I just hope his "sponsors" dont get too insulted by the way he presents this article, unless of course he's already been given the flick from Preston and this a little "revenge" piece?

Oh and Ozfootball is the "Bible" for soccer, tremendous site I have spent hours on it remembering the past. Not too many sub 990 attendances for Hellas games, quick glance brought up this doozey with Sydney FC, I guess Lowy's boys drew shit crowds even then? hahahhahahah


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sydneyfc1987 - 3 Jun 2021 12:42 PM
Lol

Can't say I agree at all but still going to enjoy the mental gymnastics from mono trying to fit this into his simplistic A-league vs NPL clubs/Anglos vs ethnic/us vs them narrative.

Haha!!!!

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We can’t just ignore the clubs forever that want to take the next step. 

One thing that stood out was that although I agree that Canberra and SEQ/Brisbane should be looked at for new A League teams, he mentions more teams in Sydney and that seems a bridge too far in the content on an A League entry anytime soon. Even Macarthur are treading water in terms of crowds and interest, so Sydney and Melbourne appear to be adequately represented in the A League for the medium term.

Adding teams to the NSD in bigger markets will be achievable at a lower cost base, allowing them to strengthen and work their way up once any P&R commences. 

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Ouch.A dose of reality for the NSL /NPL bitters.

What he says is essentially true.
A Second Division will be a low budget affair,because there wont be the interest from the general public to generate big dollars.
 There may be a few clubs that can appeal to a large enough community to generate revenue to compete at the top level.But  the majority will appeal to a small community ,like a small ethnic club and could  only compete on a National stage with a rich benefactor willing to lose money.
There are obviously regions that aren't represented in the A-League at the moment ,like Canberra,Wollongong and North and South Tasmania.Should teams from those regions go straight into an A-League or a Second Division?Clearly this is a money question more than anything else.But would the bitters allow them into a Second Division at the expense of their ethnic club?How do they decide who goes into a Second Division?
I hope there  is a Second Division.But i would prefer a lot of regional teams also capable of taking the step up if they are promoted.


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crimsoncrusoe - 3 Jun 2021 2:21 PM
Ouch.A dose of reality for the NSL /NPL bitters.

What he says is essentially true.
A Second Division will be a low budget affair,because there wont be the interest from the general public to generate big dollars.


I don’t really see the problem with a low budget affair. 

I think it is important that the next tier of footballers get to compete against each other on a regular basis. Refs get to cut their teeth somewhere. Or get dropped after bad AL performances. Coaches get to prove themselves in a better comp than the NPL. 

It doesn’t need to be professional initially although it should be the aim. Players/coaches/refs can all participate in a 2nd Div on a part time basis. 

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Looks like FTBL pulled the article. Link no longer works.
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Its been proven that there is no Frank Brunoskevic who has ever played NSL for Footscray JUST or Brunswick Juventus in the NSL.

Let alone being an NSL Star!!!

Goes directly to the credibility of the author or the editorial staff.



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Wow.

it’s pretty obvious this guy does not exist. In the world. Anywhere.

Some wombat has paid of some clueless journo who thought they could make a claim to NSL stardom by making up a Balkan like name (which doesn’t actually exist) so they could peddle there anti 2 nd division rabble.

And look at all of you drinking the cool aid. This is beyond hilarious.
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crimsoncrusoe - 3 Jun 2021 2:21 PM
Ouch.A dose of reality for the NSL /NPL bitters.

What he says is essentially true.
A Second Division will be a low budget affair,because there wont be the interest from the general public to generate big dollars.
 There may be a few clubs that can appeal to a large enough community to generate revenue to compete at the top level.But  the majority will appeal to a small community ,like a small ethnic club and could  only compete on a National stage with a rich benefactor willing to lose money.
There are obviously regions that aren't represented in the A-League at the moment ,like Canberra,Wollongong and North and South Tasmania.Should teams from those regions go straight into an A-League or a Second Division?Clearly this is a money question more than anything else.But would the bitters allow them into a Second Division at the expense of their ethnic club?How do they decide who goes into a Second Division?
I hope there  is a Second Division.But i would prefer a lot of regional teams also capable of taking the step up if they are promoted.


You're replying to the comments of Frank Brunoskevic, the Nelly Yoa of the NSL, you do realise?
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Some people are saying the real name is Frank Bruno Skeptic
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Arthur - 3 Jun 2021 2:45 PM
Some people are saying the real name is Frank Bruno Skeptic

Hahahah no Arthur, its "Con Monoethnic"...... 
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Arthur - 3 Jun 2021 2:44 PM
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You're replying to the comments of Frank Brunoskevic, the Nelly Yoa of the NSL, you do realise?

Probably the Nelly Yoa of the economics world also. 
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Its a poor article, I then question why the game never gets anywhere with such a poor attitude when we are trying to improve and get better in an ever competitive game around the world like football has, because the insular NRL or AFL have global competition right like our sport does right? 

There is always people with hidden agendas that dont like or want progression which is very frustrating on both sides of the sport for that matter.

As usual there isnt a sport that shoots themselves into the foot like football does! 
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AXE ‘TERRIBLE’ A-LEAGUE 2ND DIVISION PLANS SAYS FORMER NSL STAR TURNED ECONOMIST

By Janakan Seemampillai

Former NSL player and now leading economist Frank Brunoskevic, believes Football Australia (FA) in conjunction with the Australian Professional Leagues (APL), should stop trying to recreate the past and focus on growing the A-League.

Brunoskevic, who played for Footscray JUST and Brunswick Juventus in the 1980s, has carved out a successful post football career in investment banking and believes the numbers for a National Second Division simply don’t stack up.

“Emotional attachment is a wonderful attribute for a football fan, but it won’t pay the bills,” he said. “At the end of the day, most of these NPL clubs rely heavily on the generosity of their communities, something that is not sustainable in a professional full time environment. “
Most if not all A-League clubs, who are now well established, struggle financially and are in debt.  
“They have wealthy owners, far more corporate blue chip sponsors than smaller suburban based NPL clubs, yet they struggle to survive and attract fans. How then can an NPL club possibly make it on a national stage relying on canteen revenue, generous local sponsors and the odd benefactor?  
“It’s all good looking at the old NSL with rose coloured glasses, but it failed for a reason. These NPL clubs will simply go broke if they try to live beyond their means. They will go the way of the NSL if they are not careful.” 
FA is adamant a NSD will happen, and have set 2023 as a start date. The Australian Association of Football Clubs (AAFC) are working closely with FA to bring 12 clubs in by 2023, with the plan to expand to 16 by 2027. 
Brunoskevic believes the focus should be on growing the A-League, and ensuring Australian footballers get as many games as their foreign counterparts.  “I think it’s better to grow the A-League, make it 20 clubs and have a full home & away season. At the moment we play only 25 games or so and that is nowhere near enough. Other countries play 40 plus when you factor in Cup games and continental leagues. We need more games so our Australian based players get more miles in their legs and more experience.  
“One of FFA’s plans is to onsell players in Australia and generate revenue that way. It’s a good idea, so let’s help this by developing these players by giving them more games so their minds and bodies as well as their technical ability is good enough to warrant serious interest overseas.”
 Brunoskevic also pointed to the recently announced TV deal the APL signed with Channel Ten and Paramount as an example of how lucrative the A-League can be. He believes the smaller NPL clubs, who will form the core group for the NSD, won’t attract as much interest. 
 “The recent TV deal ($40M per season) shows how much value there is in investing in the A-League. If we have more games in big markets, we can grow this even more in the next decade or so. “
We are struggling in the A-League now but someone is still willing to spend $200M on it. Imagine how much they’d spend when they see how good the A-League can be?  “We need more teams in Sydney, Brisbane and a team in Canberra.  
“Are you telling me a Heidelberg or Marconi or South Hobart, all clubs with passionate fanbases, but very small markets, are going to attract millions in TV deals or sponsors?
  “The AAFC report itself in January estimates $300-500K in streaming revenue, that is a fraction of the A-League TV deal. Sponsorship revenue is not that much better and far away from what the A-League will get. It goes to show, how far away potential NSD clubs are from big town full time professional clubs.  

“The crowds these NPL clubs attract are a few hundred and maybe a few thousand for the odd games. The A-League used to average over 13,000. Even this season it’s only 5,000 or so, but how often do NPL clubs get that? “The Australian sporting landscape is so different to Europe and other continents. We can’t try and be like them for the sake of it. 
 “We need to be realistic about where we are at as a footballing country. “What is the point of an NSD, if realistically they will never compete with the A-League clubs? It is just a glorified NPL. These clubs won’t be able to make $10-15M to be able to compete with top tier clubs. It is just not feasible.”
 Brunoskevic’s views will not be welcome by ardent fans of the old NSL clubs, many who are yearning for their clubs to once again grace the national stage. 

Former NSL fans argue the current A-League structure with no promotion or relegation is closed and not in line with what a true football culture is all about.  Many believe the closed football structure restricts the growth of footballers by not giving them an avenue to develop their footballing abilities. 

Brunoskevic dismisses this notion, pointing out the old NSL, which disbanded in 2004, had a form of promotion and relegation, but it bore little fruit. There were 42 clubs that competed in the NSL between 1977 and 2004, but the reason so many clubs came and went was because they struggled financially which in turn led to poor on field performance.  
“There was a form of promotion and relegation in the old NSL, mainly because clubs simply couldn’t afford to stay and so went back down to their state league and another club came up.  
“A number of these clubs who got relegated often went further down their state pyramid after leaving the NSL, showing how fiscally irresponsible they were.  
“The clubs who went up into the NSL didn’t survive that long either. I know Brunswick Juventus went down when I was there and then we came back in the mid 90s but struggled anyway.


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Hahahahahahaha this is hilarious, this bloke in one fell swoop has ended all of his credibility on sokkah Twitter. 

He’s literally just tried to come up with an ethnic sounding name, and gone on a Tirade about how a 2nd div won’t work, yet he’s been writing all of these success stories for Preston. You can’t make this shit up.

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I wonder who he really spoke to
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Jankan has gone to ground. The fact ftbl actually posted the article without fact checking it. Wtf is going on
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rooboy91 - 3 Jun 2021 4:19 PM
I wonder who he really spoke to

Spoke to a friend of a friend who knows someone who once played in the nsl. Not a known player but a player in the reserve reserve team .
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Ds98 - 3 Jun 2021 4:18 PM
Hahahahahahaha this is hilarious, this bloke in one fell swoop has ended all of his credibility on sokkah Twitter. 

He’s literally just tried to come up with an ethnic sounding name, and gone on a Tirade about how a 2nd div won’t work, yet he’s been writing all of these success stories for Preston. You can’t make this shit up.

God bless the internet..... I haven't stopped laughing for 2 hours.... Love the comments on here by the usual suspects agreeing with ol Frankie.... hahahahah


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Stay tuned next week when Janakan interviews renowned ex Socceroos coach, now vaginoplasty surgeon, Mike O'Lotripas...  The Greek Irish Wizard of Wangaratta. 
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Its Frank Lowy's grandson maybe... 
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