Axe ‘terrible’ A-League 2nd division plans says former NSL star turned economist...


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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 4:36 PM
crimsoncrusoe - 4 Jun 2021 4:27 PM

Absolutely NOT.... I would HATE a closed NSD ... I want, what I think most want, a national league linked via promotion and relegation to each individual states NPL system, which in turn has promotion and relegation all they way down the chain to state and district leagues.....
No free passes for anyone. In fact like Ive said before I would be more than happy for next season to be a qualifying season of sorts for the NPL1s of each state to determine which clubs make up the inaugural NSD....
No privilege, no bullshit, no rich owners who don't even know the offside rule and "manage the club" from a boardroom overseas ..... pure, merit driven soccer. It is the ONLY way we will EVER thrive as a nation.
And before you ask (which I know you will) If South Melbourne DON"T get in in the first year I couldn't care less... As long as we are able to win our way up Ill be as happy as a pig in shit.

If you are as altruistic as you say,then so be it.My opinion is that will never work.Because it never has worked and the vast majority of small clubs financially just cant afford to take the step up.So ,if for example Wynumm Wombats and   Mt Isa Drovers  somehow finish top of a QLD playoff,they will just say..Sorry ,we cant afford the time or money to go into a 2nd Div.Same happens for Lismore Bogans , Albany Melonheads and Davenport Penguins.
These clubs are small because they appeal to a small community and  cant generate sufficient revenue .
Default to Sydney and Melb  suburban and ethnic teams making up a second Division.A truly non representative group.But best of the the small clubs.

Thats why you need new teams representing regions much like A-League clubs……..Thats why A- League started out so well…..So you need to create regional teams for a second division.Canberra,Wolongong,Tasmania,North Queensland,South Brisbane,North Adelaide,etc.etc..




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Would anyone in the industry make up a Slavic name on purpose to make some sort of point in a football article they put their name to?
I have to agree with others, someone else is behind this, and the writer concerned, who clearly isn't au fait with our football history, has been sucked in by it.
Otherwise, you'd have to be the stupidest person in Australia to make up such a name and think that no one would ever notice.

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josh sydneyfc - 4 Jun 2021 4:14 PM
@mono generally speaking I don’t agree with your views. Nothing personal we just have differing opinions. 
But I’m with you on this one mate, he’s been put up to it. The article is literally suicide to his credential and his career, there’s something else at play here 

Never personal Josh. Respect your opinions man, just like I do those of most people.... I argue against them because I disagree, all good.
I don't know what the end game with this article was but it was a piss poor move by "whoever is behind it" is all I am saying.. 
There are hundreds of reasons you could argue against a second division, some of them quite valid, but this article was just garbage.
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crimsoncrusoe - 4 Jun 2021 4:27 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 9:41 AM

😀 So are you saying privileged NPL clubs should get a free pass into a second division?Like a closed second league.Do you understand hypocriisy?

Absolutely NOT.... I would HATE a closed NSD ... I want, what I think most want, a national league linked via promotion and relegation to each individual states NPL system, which in turn has promotion and relegation all they way down the chain to state and district leagues.....
No free passes for anyone. In fact like Ive said before I would be more than happy for next season to be a qualifying season of sorts for the NPL1s of each state to determine which clubs make up the inaugural NSD....
No privilege, no bullshit, no rich owners who don't even know the offside rule and "manage the club" from a boardroom overseas ..... pure, merit driven soccer. It is the ONLY way we will EVER thrive as a nation.
And before you ask (which I know you will) If South Melbourne DON"T get in in the first year I couldn't care less... As long as we are able to win our way up Ill be as happy as a pig in shit.
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Janakan Seemampillai - or - Frank Brunoskevic

is probably responsible for half the cancerous bitter multi's that have dragged this forum into the shit over the years...


has anyone figured out which account/s belong to him yet?


 




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Janakan is a well know liar, the bloke stat pumps Preston attendances on A-league facebook groups with him claiming even the U16's are paying for their tickets, just a sad lonely man. I feel bad for him.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 9:41 AM
df1982 - 3 Jun 2021 11:08 PM

So YOU think that the APL, who by their very existence, are reliant on a closed league which can be joined ONLY by investing heavily in a license of participation. And who's only hope of making any financial return on investment for the consortiums they wish to attract is to have all of the soccer community in Australia engaging with their "product" and NOT anything outside the Aleague tent - Is hoping for a national division to get started, made up of clubs with existing fan bases and support. A division that may well, one day, be strong enough and well supported enough to begin making overtures towards the federation about being included via pro/rel to the Aleague.
And I'M the imbecile??? hahahah OK pal.

😀 So are you saying privileged NPL clubs should get a free pass into a second division?Like a closed second league.Do you understand hypocrisy?
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bettega - 4 Jun 2021 7:40 AM
crimsoncrusoe - 3 Jun 2021 2:21 PM

Most of the A-League  clubs have survived to this day on the back of rich benefactors willing to lose money.

Correct.
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Arthur - 3 Jun 2021 2:44 PM
crimsoncrusoe - 3 Jun 2021 2:21 PM

You're replying to the comments of Frank Brunoskevic, the Nelly Yoa of the NSL, you do realise?

Its irrelevant who wrote the story.A lot of the points are valid.


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@mono generally speaking I don’t agree with your views. Nothing personal we just have differing opinions. 
But I’m with you on this one mate, he’s been put up to it. The article is literally suicide to his credential and his career, there’s something else at play here 

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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 11:54 AM
Davide82 - 4 Jun 2021 10:56 AM

OK, fair enough. Your right, nothing to see here.
Just an ooopsie by a journalist wanting to express his opinion and being misled by his economist mate (who also happens to have a name that appears to be totally fictitious) telling him he once played for two "failed" NSL ethnic clubs... despite spending the last 3 months writing piece after piece about the incredible progress Preston Lions are making in the community and their lofty NSD ambitions.
Its totally irrelevant that he also does media/marketing pieces for WSW and also irrelevant that they are a franchise in a closed shop league which would stand to loose the most from another open pyramid league, competing with them for fans and one which they can soon no longer poach players from without paying fair market rate for.... 
Your right, I must have a tin foil hat on for sure. I should be focused on the statement by the APL condemning this fraud and their resolute support for the coming NSD - could you kindly link me to this?

I actually agree with this. I’m just completely flummoxed by this whole situation. 
What are the guys true values?  I think you have to know what this blokes done in the past to figure out this whole scenario. It is so confusing!!!

Unless he’s just chasing the coin or ‘fame’  wherever it may be, then he’s definitely not doing himself any favours doing this.

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Davide82 - 4 Jun 2021 10:56 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jun 2021 9:57 PM

Aha that's as stupid as anything you "laughed at all day" ffs

OK, fair enough. Your right, nothing to see here.
Just an ooopsie by a journalist wanting to express his opinion and being misled by his economist mate (who also happens to have a name that appears to be totally fictitious) telling him he once played for two "failed" NSL ethnic clubs... despite spending the last 3 months writing piece after piece about the incredible progress Preston Lions are making in the community and their lofty NSD ambitions.
Its totally irrelevant that he also does media/marketing pieces for WSW and also irrelevant that they are a franchise in a closed shop league which would stand to loose the most from another open pyramid league, competing with them for fans and one which they can soon no longer poach players from without paying fair market rate for.... 
Your right, I must have a tin foil hat on for sure. I should be focused on the statement by the APL condemning this fraud and their resolute support for the coming NSD - could you kindly link me to this?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jun 2021 9:57 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 3 Jun 2021 7:10 PM

I have a feeling Janakan was being used a vessel to convey a message mate. 

Aha that's as stupid as anything you "laughed at all day" ffs
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 4 Jun 2021 10:13 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 9:34 AM

Why does this remind me of the dexter Rosales story? And Nelly yoa.  Janakan needs to shut up and let this die out. The more he posts the more ludicrous this gets

And the more attention and social media traffic he gets. He may be trying to play the 'any publicity is good publicity' game.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Jun 2021 9:34 AM
bettega - 4 Jun 2021 8:58 AM

This just gets better and better.... hahahahha stay tuned for the next instalment of "imaginary Aleague Opinions" Frank Brunoskevic is not mentioned by his real name in an NSL players lists as he was forced to change it by NCIP and played under the name Francis Brown... hahahahhah

Why does this remind me of the dexter Rosales story? And Nelly yoa.  Janakan needs to shut up and let this die out. The more he posts the more ludicrous this gets
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df1982 - 3 Jun 2021 11:08 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jun 2021 9:57 PM

If you really think it was a plant by the APL then you are truly an imbecile. It was clearly a prank (and a goddamn good one) played on a wannabe journalist who doesn't even do a cursory background check on his sources. The APL would have zero trouble finding a real player to express skepticism about the commercial viability of a second division, if that's what they wanted. But they also have zero antipathy towards the idea of an NSD per se. If APIA wants to play Heidelberg at Lambert Park in a league match they don't care.

Pro-rel might be a different matter, but we're not there yet.

So YOU think that the APL, who by their very existence, are reliant on a closed league which can be joined ONLY by investing heavily in a license of participation. And who's only hope of making any financial return on investment for the consortiums they wish to attract is to have all of the soccer community in Australia engaging with their "product" and NOT anything outside the Aleague tent - Is hoping for a national division to get started, made up of clubs with existing fan bases and support. A division that may well, one day, be strong enough and well supported enough to begin making overtures towards the federation about being included via pro/rel to the Aleague.
And I'M the imbecile??? hahahah OK pal.
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sub007 - 3 Jun 2021 12:40 PM
I think he's right tbh. I just can't see how a fully pro NSD would be feasible.

I could see them getting a national NPL comp up and running but the gap between that and the A-League would still be huge.

If clubs with ambition, do their costings well and are confident of their management, then let them loose - prosper, survive or fail! Same as in any other competitive football/sporting professional league and business. Not only will be really interesting, it will also bring forward well run clubs up to promotion to the Aleague and COMPETE.
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bettega - 4 Jun 2021 8:58 AM

This just gets better and better.... hahahahha stay tuned for the next instalment of "imaginary Aleague Opinions" Frank Brunoskevic is not mentioned by his real name in an NSL players lists as he was forced to change it by NCIP and played under the name Francis Brown... hahahahhah
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someguyjc - 4 Jun 2021 9:09 AM
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I don't buy his story for a second. It doesn't explain why there are zero results in a google search for Frank Brunoskevic. If he was a real person there would be google results. There aren't even any results for just the name 'Brunoskevic'. Nothing except for items relating to the article. It would appear that nobody in the history of mankind has had the surname 'Brunoskevic'. 

Janakan made up a slavic name to try dress up his own (worthless) opinion as that people like him (dumb asses) would respect. The fact he is now pretending to have met imaginary Franky B says all you need to know about him









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bettega - 4 Jun 2021 8:58 AM

I don't buy his story for a second. It doesn't explain why there are zero results in a google search for Frank Brunoskevic. If he was a real person there would be google results. There aren't even any results for just the name 'Brunoskevic'. Nothing except for items relating to the article. It would appear that nobody in the history of mankind has had the surname 'Brunoskevic'. 

Of course it's not real.

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bettega - 4 Jun 2021 8:58 AM

I don't buy his story for a second. It doesn't explain why there are zero results in a google search for Frank Brunoskevic. If he was a real person there would be google results. There aren't even any results for just the name 'Brunoskevic'. Nothing except for items relating to the article. It would appear that nobody in the history of mankind has had the surname 'Brunoskevic'. 
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df1982 - 3 Jun 2021 11:08 PM

Such a good prank that the article was taken down within hours of it been published?

Your almost as dumb as Janakan himself.

Seemed to be taken down after people on here question who the actual player was. 
Perhaps the author was tracking the response to the article. 

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crimsoncrusoe - 3 Jun 2021 2:21 PM
....like a small ethnic club and could  only compete on a National stage with a rich benefactor willing to lose money.


Most of the A-League  clubs have survived to this day on the back of rich benefactors willing to lose money.

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df1982 - 3 Jun 2021 11:08 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jun 2021 9:57 PM

If you really think it was a plant by the APL then you are truly an imbecile. It was clearly a prank (and a goddamn good one) played on a wannabe journalist who doesn't even do a cursory background check on his sources. The APL would have zero trouble finding a real player to express skepticism about the commercial viability of a second division, if that's what they wanted. But they also have zero antipathy towards the idea of an NSD per se. If APIA wants to play Heidelberg at Lambert Park in a league match they don't care.

Pro-rel might be a different matter, but we're not there yet.

Such a good prank that the article was taken down within hours of it been published?

Your almost as dumb as Janakan himself.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Jun 2021 9:57 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 3 Jun 2021 7:10 PM

I have a feeling Janakan was being used a vessel to convey a message mate. Might be one he agrees with but I think it may well come out in the wash as too many people seem to know what's going on... Either way it's really really funny how desperate some are to hold onto power...... And how blinded others are to the bullshit t by wy are constantly fed....  

If you really think it was a plant by the APL then you are truly an imbecile. It was clearly a prank (and a goddamn good one) played on a wannabe journalist who doesn't even do a cursory background check on his sources. The APL would have zero trouble finding a real player to express skepticism about the commercial viability of a second division, if that's what they wanted. But they also have zero antipathy towards the idea of an NSD per se. If APIA wants to play Heidelberg at Lambert Park in a league match they don't care.

Pro-rel might be a different matter, but we're not there yet.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 3 Jun 2021 7:10 PM
Arthur - 3 Jun 2021 6:36 PM

Janakan  and who? Thought it was the brainchild of janakan??

I have a feeling Janakan was being used a vessel to convey a message mate. Might be one he agrees with but I think it may well come out in the wash as too many people seem to know what's going on... Either way it's really really funny how desperate some are to hold onto power...... And how blinded others are to the bullshit t by wy are constantly fed....  
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sydneyfc1987 - 3 Jun 2021 12:42 PM

Haha!!!!

How ya doing their Robbo ? You must remember Frank Brunoskevic he hates the old NSL clubs and goes to Aleague games with lots of different nationalities now, maybe you guys go together?.
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AJF - 3 Jun 2021 5:39 PM
Its probably a paulc multi!

Well Janakan lives in QLD but I don't think he has a collection of Melbourne Knights calendars from the 90s. HahahahThe whole world is trying to find out who this Soccer  playing economist is
That has all the answers... Lead us o Crimson Brunoskevic
https://mobile.twitter.com/smfc/status/1400360802498973697

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southmelb - 3 Jun 2021 9:17 PM
Looks like Preston may be giving someone the flick tomorrow.

Ol Janakan also happens to get a pay check by WSW lets not forget.... although I doubt they can justify also giving him the flick for doing his master's bidding... What a stupid play by the APL I mean seriously, at least throw a couple of bucks  to an old NSL player to use his name for Christ's sake to give the bullshit some semblance of consistency.  I'm  sure there are plenty down on their luck. Instead dopey Janakan is left swinging in the wind with his reputation tattered.... 
Hahaha poor plastic Aleague, even their shills are fake. Hahaha this has given me so much joy today Lederer and the Plastic Gang are on the ropes hahaha they must really be running scared to pull this shit..... JJ and the FA are about to announce an NSD and The franchises dont like it one little bit......
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