And Archie is not Melbourne biased ?

To be fair, other sports also do this. I always see people complaining about Phil Gould in Rugby League.

Also if someone does their job well no one seems to complain ala Hill, Peacock, Mel, Les, etc

I disagree. These presenters fulfil a vital role in football. That means they should be open to public scrutiny. Most complaints are not personal but rather about their ability to the job well. For example, Slater is great at talking about his experiences as footballer and has some great stories, but when commentating he is unpleasantly Sydney biased. Archie is a perfect fit for that larrikin role, he has plenty of personality, but he struggles to voice his thoughts in a coherent way.

In Australian football we have a tendency to attack our own rather than unite. Rather than getting behind Speed, Bosnich, Kosmina, Slater, Harper we attack them and always think that the grass is greener on the other side. This negativity is terrible for the game. Let's get behind Paramount and stop attacking our own and turn over a new leaf. 

You need a mix, but most people we have who are characters end up getting hammered by fans. Harps is a great character and everyone is always laying into him for some reason, same for archie. 

Brosque is very plain and is not interesting like Slater, Archie Stenson or even Kosmina though, they are characters. 

As jaymz said above it'll be nice to see some new blood rather than recycling most of the older Fox regulars. 

Whilst nostalgia is great with someone like Robbie, the sport really has overtaken him tbh. His constant criticism of the curriculum before it even had developed any players was a prime example of it, not to mention how he went after Ange to get his mate the national team job, lastly he wasn't able to offer any meaningful discussion or analysis and instead would pigeon hole an irrelevant story about his playing days in a lot of circumstances. 

10 and paramount is a great chance to give new younger talent a chance that more fits our demographics for example brosque and cornthwaite have both showed they have a lot of potential.

Sad news to lose an OG, I remember seeing a football show on fox pre-Aleague with Andy Paschalidis talking about adding the new league on top of the existing NSL but I can't remember if he was for it or against it.

John kosmina might get gig instead? 😝

Cancelled foxtel today. Was asked why. Told them because no more A League lady replied we've been getting a lot of that. Happy days...

thank the gods

Good, very good

Robbie Slater has said that he won’t be involved with 10 or Paramount+, and that he would’ve liked to have been.

7 have all Olympic sides tied up... 

As soon as the Olympics are over I can see 10 talking them up... 

Needs big prize money if they want it to be a serious event 

There was an ad for the Paramount streaming service the other day, there was very quick image of the W-League at the very end of the ad.

Anyone know if channel 10 have been talking to up the Matildas?

Isnt this in the USA?

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2021/07/28/paramount-acquires-rights-to-scottish-premiership-ahead-of-2021-22-season/

CBS Sports and Paramount+ continue to expand their arsenal of soccer rights. With more than 2,000 live matches airing per season, Paramount+ also has acquired rights to Serie A (debuting August 21), UEFA Champions League, Europa League, Europa Conference League, NWSL, Argentine league, Brasileirao, Concacaf Nations League, Concacaf World Cup qualifiers, Coppa Italia and Supercoppa Italiana, The Women’s Cup, Asian World Cup qualifiers, AFC Champions League, AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2022, AFC Asian Cup China 2023, and, beginning in 2022, the Supercopa Argentina (English-language).

Amen!

The APL should only look after professional competitions.

Any other national leagues and competitions should be the responsibility of the FA until they become professional.

The state based NPL competitions could be transferred across to the FA if they are to become part of the elite competitions with P/R.

All other football should be locally controlled with in the states.

Clearly my comments weren't well voiced.  I see the 2nd div and 1st div as part of the same thing - an independent group within the whole football group of interests.  It's up to the people/clubs involved to sort out their own relationship in respect of funding and other interactions with each other - with an oversight from the FA (that they pay for) on regulatory matters etc.

What I do not want to see is that this small self-interested group draw money from the rest of the game.  Just no!  You cannot use national junior rego fees to pay for flights for players who demand money to perform in front of a paying public.  It must never happen.

That they have seeded competitions in the past? Well I don't really know the extent of this.  Even with the A League launch they got Foxtel to invest in a concept professional competition rather than hit up the Broken Hill West Panthers for a donation.  Philips gave up the cash for the NSL start as I recall not J.U.S.T juniors.  Same thing with 2nd Div.  NOT a cent from the rest of the game.  Pro/Semi Pro Clubs want to launch a comp that we can all get behind.  This is great.  If they want me to pay then I will at the gate, but never at registration.

W League is funded by the Lowy family.  The FA funds individual players who qualify as Matildas like the Cricket does with their contract players.  I am completely against this too.  They should be paid by their Clubs for representing their Clubs and by the FA for representing the FA in International competition.  

Can we not just embrace the concept that each and every competition should be self-supporting and not rely on cross funding from people whose only connection is that they also kick a round ball?


 

I agree with this

I think the APL should be responsible for A League, W League, second tier, and any other tiers. They should take care of the league administration and advertising. The clubs should be independent of the APL and responsible for their own affairs

Revenue for the APL should be TV deal and shared sponsors. For clubs it is individual sponsors and investment, memberships and all gate revenue (including finals)

I'd like to see APL revenue be set percentages ie: $5m for APL, and ratio of all other revenue to go to clubs such as 3:1:1 for A League, W League and 2nd tier. The bigger the league, the bigger the tiers, and the more revenue clubs get. There can be thresholds for expansion

I agree the FA should be responsible for grassroots (amateur and local leagues), FFA cup, national teams, futsal etc... Revenue is relevant parts of TV deal, NT sponsorship and gates, merchandise, fees, and x% of revenue from APL

A second tier doesnt need a separate body

At no point did I say that the 2nd division shouldn't receive money from from the first tier.  I said it shouldn't receive money from the FA.  If the professional comps want to cross fund I don't give a damn if they do or they don't.

I think we are talking at cross purposes. The responsibility of the Federation (in my view) at state level for NPLs, state leagues and below, and National level, for 1st and potentially 2nd nation wide divisions should be to administer the game. Facilitate the competition so to speak, arrange scheduling (none of this broadcaster driven shit), arrange for referees, linos, 4th officials, match review panels, tribunals for resolution of issues etc etc. I think the "monetizing" for lack of a better word, marketing revenue generation etc etc should be done by APL in the case of Aleague and ... I dont know ....AAFC maybe in the case of second division???

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm also pretty sure the state federations spend a decent amount of coin on administering the NPLs. But yeah, I agree the idea should be that FA subsidises the NSD only for its start-up period, and the aim should be for commercial sustainability on a long-term basis.

I understand that many see this as you say as the "Great White Hope" for football. But Viacom/CBS/10/Paramount+  are also trying to revive their streaming service. Both parties need this to succeed. 10 All Access which is being re-branded to Paramount+ virtually sunk without a trace besides Netflix, Stan and later Disney when it was launched. Now they are playing catch up and looking to build not only here but through Asia. 

Hopefully it works to football's favour but there are no guarantees - only a shared need for success

thanks Arthur,
Reading some posts is like reliving the past on the intro of AL way back then.
Lowy the god - no the saviour of our beloved game came to be like moses's, with his tablet of commandments and all.
I get it, its exciting but some posters are carrying on like its the break of dawn and with all the answers - like htf do you know.

Wouldn't it be wiser to sit back and see what actually gets delivered in the coming years, yer we'll have our honeymoon period like occured in the past, lets see after that is more the proof in the pudding overall, fingers crossed, I'm sure their will be some good speed humps but as said, lets see at a later time.