We are no better off then what we were in the OFC at this point of time, Our national youth cant even beat Laos let alone NZ, we refuse to use the 3+1 rule in our league and have no 2nd division. We are rated just above Vietnam for the A-League standings. We don't take the AFC serious enough to be there.
Is Oceania our savour? 

Been saying this for over 5 years now the AFC was the worst thing Australia did, our football in every metric has gone backwards.... It has also cost us a load of money 

I doubt we will go back to the OFC but we probably should no one cares about the ACL, or Asian cup etc 

Well you have totally confused me with those comments. I was one of 100K watching the 2015 Asian cup final in Sydney. I was also there for Iran v Qatar in Sydney, easily the most atmospheric day at the Olympic stadium, outside of a couple of WC qualifiers & Asian cup final, & I have attended quite a few events there.
I only ever cheered WSW once & that was the 2104 ACL final, & cheered for Adelaide a few years earlier in another ACL final.
I was in Russia to watch the Socceroos play in a World cup with mainly A-League players in 2018, 4th time running of qualifying for WC (was also there in 2006) after 32 years of heartache.
I attended a Sydney Derby with 62K & also attended some games of the A-League with 30k-40K. I've seen the A-League discussed & even feared in the main stream media.

So not sure what metrics you talking about.

Gosh imagine if countries like England & Italy had a person like you running them they would never have made the Euros finals.

England after losing to Iceland, pop 345K, decides to never to play Euros & play in the Home nations (Scotland, nth Ireland & Wales) cup.
Italy after missing out on World cup in 2018, unheard of, deciding to just play in the Med cup with Greece, Sardinia, Scily & Cyrpus opting out of Euros.

Amazing how some think after a lost.

Care to explain how any of those complaints have to do with is being in the AFC, and why moving to the OFC would solve them?

Yeah, definitely more money and market potential in Oceania. Good one genius!

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Are these the same people that want WP out?

Weird how this gets posted yearly and usually it's Royz2000 and Davstar who want back in the ofc.  It's sad that they waste their/his time on this 

I'm not sure if you are trolling?

Four successive World Cup appearances at senior level  has been wonderful  IMO.

Using football specific performance criteria, the A L has improved immeasurably. The quantity of quality young players in it ATM is good too.

I would never advocate leaving the AFC, but it's certainly true that not too many Australians actually care about  any of the Asian comps.

Which is unfortunate.

I've  loved watching ACL with A L clubs involved.

they need to introduce a nations league to remove round 2 of the WC qualifiers.

do we really need to smash Taiwan 7-0 every few years? Kuwait smashed them 9-0.. what do these games even do? would much rather see a vietnam vs taiwan.

top 8 ranked asian teams go into round 3.
8 teams from the rest
split into 4 groups, top 4 seeded.

Wanderers fans certainly seemed to care about it when they won, with a team including Mooy, Ono and Juric.

In the earlier years of our participation the interest was high, but as each year goes on it seems to be looked at with less interest. The WSW’s achievement by winning it was huge though. 

I think that is because we couldn't compete and it plays a big part in people deciding the quality of the A-league is no good and this leads to declining interest in the league. I think it is one of the keys, along with developing players and successful national teams, to turning opinions of our league around.

Helped created a Juggernaut.
They've all remained loyal to this day.

AFC should be split in half and OFC should be swallowed up by the eastern sector of Asia.

This thread ... lol

love how you have picked probably the best moments let me bring some balance to the debate 

love how we rarely qualify for Youth tournaments
Love how the AL teams 4/5 times dont even make it out of there ACL group 
Oh the Talent drain we got with players taking short term money instead of building a career in Asia has made the Socceroos....well shit 
Yes We were in Russia how did we go with that? i dont think we won a game....or scored a goal in open play....
Sydney Derby has nothing to do with Asia - Also the Nix are a OFC based team....so thats +1 for the OFC 

The argument that i hear for Asia is a stupid one it has 'potential' - my question is potential for what? potential for football to die in this country? 

This fourm used to have +500 active members back in the 00s not we struggle to have over 40..... 

Asian cup final was great, we would be better off playing the confed cup every 4 years at least your playing teams like Italy and Argentina - i mean who wouldnt want to give up our epic matches against Qatar and Bahrain....  Sure playing Japan and S.Korea are good competitive matches but now the OFC will get a spot to the world cup where is NO REASON to stay in Asia...

the band of die harders left still cant admit things have gone backwards ...


Every 'good' moment you mentioned is not half as good at us qualifying in 2005 and the 2006 win against Japan and making it out of the group with the draw against Croatia.....  

If you dont think we should return to the OFC ill give you the ultimate reason BEING IN ASIA MEANS WE WILL ALWAYS BE SEEDED WITH ASIAN TEAMS MEANING THE CHANCES OF US MAKING IT OUT OF THE GROUP IN A WC ARE GREATLY REDUCED AS WE PRETTY MUCH WILL ALWAYS DRAW A TOP EUROPEAN, SOUTH AMERICAN SIDE.

Nations like Qatar, Iran etc are vastly worse then sides like Chile, Peru, Denmark.... - making it out of the group in the world cup would do more to boost football interest in Australia then 10 new marquee players in the AL..... 

This sums it up. If we think Asia is hard and we should go back to Oceania which is easier, we would never develop beyond the Golden Generation.

This is why this forum should just accept it’s dead. 

Perfectly replied Huddo.

Davstar, there are those who see a glass 1/2 full & others 1/2 empty.

I was there In 2006 WC lost to Brazil in Germany with our golden generation, was as proud as punch, what a great effort, I later drank & spoke to some Brazilians after the game, wishing to discuss my beloved Socceroos great performance. They dismiss the GG team & said no good, not good enough, 1 or 2 Harry, Dukes not bad, the others, no skill, not good to watch. I reeled away in disgust, how poorly are they taking this, how a Soccer backwater like Australia pushed the might of Brazil, they didn't like it.
Later I watched replay of the game, months later, after euphoria had died & then I was shock to find that I agreed with my Brazilian drinking partner, yes we competed brilliantly, we were fit, we were harden pros, we were fighting above our weight, but skill was wise outside of Harry & Dukes, we were a million miles away, this was further emphasised at Asian cup 2007, forget results, forget tiredness, forget arrogance,  forget coaching, just looking skill wise, the GG were not any higher then our Asian counterparts.
I always even then thought we could improve, maybe I'm still waiting, but Ange started something.

Yes, for many of them their interest in football was totally drained when they heard we would no longer get to play Vanuatu or Tuvalu. I know my interest has wained with the lack of double digit score lines any serious fan looked forward to.
I suspect you’ll find the other 460 forum members avidly posting on some Kiribati football forum. Perhaps you could report back to us on the progress currently being made in Oceania?

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The Kiwi Olympic Squad says hello.....

With threads like this one, it's mind boggling why this would be the case   

LOL, so its AFCs fault that we haven't developed good enough youth players or given much youth game time in the AL. So the solution to this is to move from a stronger confed to the weakest one in the world. That way we can dominate, qualify for every tournament and take stagnation to the next level. 

This would be akin to Turkey and Russia moving from Europe to Asia because they dont qualify for every youth tournament and only make the group stage in the champions league.

C'mon now, Royz and Davstar do have a point... Archie Thompson scoring 13 goals against American Samoa did more for football in this country than any world cup appearance could ever have done. 

Although you do wonder whether Turkish officials ever look at the easy ride Australia gets into every WC and maybe occasionally they've thought to themselves that they could do with a little bit of that.

You wonder what they're thinking when they have to sit and watch the Saudis getting demolished yet again in a WC fixture.