What are you on about turbo? Talk about a glass jaw.

Like I said...., allegedly...... I want it to be true, not gonna lie, but I have heard it from 3 different people now ( nd no the voices in my head are not 2 of them) hahahahah

and a mysoginist male chauvinist. 
let by gons be by gons perhaps lad.

You might have a point same could be said with people like me and Cricket I don't  care about cricket and anyone who supports it I go no time for. All the marketing jn the world will never get me to watch a match bcuz I actually think the sport is a big waste of time. 

However I need to point out we manage to get 95k to a Meaningless Liverpool friendly against Melbourne victory in a rubbish for football (MCG) but can get over 10k to watch City play Western United. 

We can get 17k people turn up to see an unfit Daniel Sturriage....same can be said with selling it the house when David Becks LA Galaxy is jn the house etc 

There is a lot more interest in football then the current domestic competition and national team is drumbing up... 


 

Sexist, homophobic and infantile in the one retort. Impressive.

I love how you have no idea how much you’re unintentionally praising Arnie with this post 😂

AHAHAHAHA, back to your boyfriend now dumb mole.

I dunno about saying Arnold did well at Mariners, probably the last decent generation come through there the league that had some talent, that were all together.

Rogic, Ryan, Amini, Bozanic, Sainsbury, Ibini - All have gone to Europe successfully in most parts. He also had Sterjovski who played well when he came back.

A better coach would of won more tbh.

I forgot Duke too haha basically the socceroos team.

Hahahahaha. Bugger off. 

What a great take.

You literally just made this up in this thread lmao. No one has ever said this.

Allegedly.....

Ummm by telling him they won't extend his contract even if he qualified for WC?  

Not arguing at all with that - just stating the history as it stands. 

It was a whole issue back then, Ange with Gallop went to the press conference together when Ange resigned. Don't play ignorance.
They didn't share his vision of instiling a blueprint going into the future, a chance to become a threat.
 The FFA and influential media types were only content with making the World Cup and that's all that mattered as far as Australian Soccer is concerned.

How so?

That view is not accurate, the Ffa didn't back him and he has his principles, so no, you are not a big fan of Ange with your view.
Also, Arnold only attacks people with his arrogance and his Socceroos are about to fo out the back door.

They  shouldn't  be  so  tight  with  money -   if  Arnie  is  no  longer  getting  the  job  done , just  spend  the  money  and  get  some  one  new  in  to  qualify   us  for  the  WC.   Don't  be  so  Tight !  It's  just  a  bit   of  money   after  all.  Put  football   first !

As respected as Ange is, he is far more suited to being a club manager where he works with his squad day in, day out and embeds the team with his philosophy and style so they are all synced as one.

As a NT manager you sometimes get the players 48hrs before a qualifier so you barely even get a proper training session in, let alone managing jet lag and niggles that the players have.

seems a wiser investment to have more aussie coaches to draw from so we can eventually find our own bvm and hiddink. Honestly Ange isn't obviously worse, so we might already have had one

if we have more 1st division teams and full time coaches in the 2nd division there are plenty of opportunities

As a short term replacement. We cannot afford/ will not pay top dollar for the type of long term overseas managers that Davstar wants. Venables was a 18 month contract to include the 1997 Confed Cup. BVM and Hiddink were virtually just World Cup gigs. 

TBH Arnie and Ange are the best Australian managers we have. Popovic has won the the ACL and a premiership - but that was with with salary and 6 visa player advantages. at the end of the day when he has the advantage he competes well. The same can be said of Papas and even Rudan in their NPL careers. If the club overspends they do well. If they underspend they fail. Arnie (particularly at CCM) and Ange not only picked important foreigners but they made the team greater than the sum of the players. TBH the only time I can say that at a NT level were under Rasic and then later under Venables and  Hiddink (both with considerably better squads than we currently have) and Ange for a period around the Asian Cup. 

No offense mate but this whole preoccupation with 'marketing' is a sizable part of why the game in this country is ar$e-backwards...

All the marketing in the world isn't gonna convert Pauline Hanson, Sam Newman or their respective acolytes to 'the sokkah' in a trillion years...so pray tell why are we still at it?

The only people who need concern themselves with football in this country are football fans, not the bogan masses ensconced in their safe-spaces away from the world at large💡

we managed to get a pretty decent replacement to be fair

Fair enough never might be a stretch but I wouldnt want an aussie manager at the expense of a international manager if his CV isn't better. Ie hire the best person for the job. 

As for Rafa he was just an example of someone well known - right now our Socceroos have close to Zero start power, the team is rubbish on the field and rubbish from a marketing point of view. If we at least had a respectable name at the helm it would give fans something to talk about and give fans some hope. 

Football needs media and right now the socceroos are ghosted due to being at the lowest level in decades 

This is spot on. 

(1)I wouldn't say never again, but def not until the avg. Aussie coach is closer to Ange, Popa or even Arthur Papas in terms of philosophy & mentality

(2) Ideally yeah, but not bloody likely alas. Besides, further to your next point Rafa Benitez has never dabbled in international football which, as we know is a totes different beast to club football.

I've no problem w/low-profile managers so long as they meet all the other criteria, and - ideally - would be committed for the relative long-haul. As I suggested earlier, we ought to look to Spain, Portugal or Latin America for Arnie’s successor.

'Hounded'?! Ange constantly talked of football 'culture' and invited robust analytical criticism by journos except that when he got it he cracked the shits and threw his toys out of the pram.

I don't hate Ange and hope he does well at Celtic (which I'm sure is just a stepping stone for something bigger) but he was a wanker the way he left Australia in the lurch.

I think Arnie is a better club manager than NT manager. At club level he can buy the players he wants to suit his system and then have uninterrupted weeks of training to bed down the system with his team. He can do that well but I also think he's a bit of a one-trick pony. A slightly different skill set is required at NT level. Successful NT management sometimes demands flexibility and improvisation.

Strongly disagree that Arnie is a bad manager. He proved at the Mariners and at Sydney that he's a pretty good manager, but plenty have been death riding him the entire time as Oz coach.

He's been dealt a pretty ordinary hand as far as players and circumstances are concerned but in recent times he's caused even me to doubt him when he keeps picking the same tired old players. He really needs to freshen things up or even coming third in our group might be too hard!!!

I'll add this after his disaster with GA I never want a Australian to manage our national team again 

I also don't ever want to see no bodyanagers like Pim and Holger 

We need managers who have pedigree and are market able. 

Imagine we had Marco Bielsa now? He would be charismatic, play good football, have a solid reputation etc 

Just like having star players a star manager markets the game. 

I'd like us to try get someone like Renier or Rafa etc next. 

Let's be frank people were relatively happy with Ange 

He did a good job with the cards he was given. Sure we were dissapointed when he left before the world cup bit thay was his choice.

GA on the other hand from day 1 of his 2nd tenure id say the majority of people opposed him being in the job. He is a car crash of an appointment,  in the need to have an 'Aussie in charge' we simply hired the wrong man - this is literally the definition of privilege aka jobs for the boys 

GA is trying to deflect on the serious fact he should be sacked asap. To save the socceroos from missing Qatar which would be a disaster for the game and a disaster for the FFA but the fact is the money isn't there to sack him bring someone else in and he probably is under pressure to resignation.

I dare say there is a clause in his contract is he doesn't quality for the WC he is gone but there should of been a minimum point target by certain stages in the group stage to ensure qualification or the axe