Widely-accepted "Cancel Culture" now morphing into political totalitarianism


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johnsmith - 24 Jan 2022 1:31 PM
Every ideology has tell-tale characteristic traits. A person's ideology leads to them behaving in a certain way.

Therefore, the key to not being deceived by others is: focus on traits, and ignore the labels that people give.

In an evil malicious world, many labels can just be thrown out of malicious spite, whereas the traits are unmistakable.

Example: an animal is barking. One person labels it as a "fish", another calls it an "elephant", another calls it a "dog". How do you tell who's telling the truth? If you go by the labels given by the people, you'll be deceived. But if you look at the data of the characteristic traits, you can easily tell it is a dog because it is barking.

This is not as obvious - because the VAST MAJORITY of people are swayed by labels given by others, and they do NOT study traits. That is why the vast majority of people can be swayed by cleverly-crafted news reports. When people trust a news source, they generally do not question or test the labels that the news source uses.

Ok, let's proceed.

Without using labels, let's list the characteristic traits of people that support totalitarianism:

  1. silence all opposition on major issues, tolerate opposition on minor issues;
  2. use government agencies to enforce the silencing of opposition;
  3. shutting down access to communications (print media, telecommunications) by the opposition, so that the opposition's message cannot be spread by media (print or electronic)

Now that we have first focussed on traits -- rather than labels -- the next thing is to ask: who is doing the above three things in society? (Ignore labels. Look at traits.) The people who have the above three traits, who are they?

This is how you can un-mask the totalitarian ideologues in society - ignore labels, examine traits.

Often, the real totalitarians are hidden, because they use deceptive-labels.

Often the ones who are acting totalitarian, are the ones labelling others as being totalitarian.

Who is banning people's social media accounts? What political spectrum do those people come from? Who is doing the censoring?

Once you focus on traits --- and ignore labels that the spin-propaganda experts devise -- suddenly the lightbulb goes on.

I am guessing that never before in your life has anyone taught you to: focus on traits and ignore labels. That is because the prime tool of propaganda is false-labels. Through history, propaganda has always been effective because most people fall for it. Are you a "most people"? Ignore the labels you give yourself. Test your own traits.

Look beyond the obvious oh "agenda-less seeker of truth". Dont just rely on the sound of a bark, use your eyes as well :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(sound)#:~:text=A%20bark%20is%20a%20sound,sound%2C%20especially%20for%20large%20dogs.
What I have and have not learned in my life should not be the topic of conversation unless being a facetious, condescending twit is your main character trait.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Jan 2022 2:18 PM
johnsmith - 24 Jan 2022 1:31 PM

Look beyond the obvious oh "agenda-less seeker of truth". Dont just rely on the sound of a bark, use your eyes as well :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_(sound)#:~:text=A%20bark%20is%20a%20sound,sound%2C%20especially%20for%20large%20dogs.
What I have and have not learned in my life should not be the topic of conversation unless being a facetious, condescending twit is your main character trait.

Incredible. Do you tend to be hypersensitive in real life, or just on social media?
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johnsmith - 24 Jan 2022 2:45 PM
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Incredible. Do you tend to be hypersensitive in real life, or just on social media?

Depends on what day it is ..... let me just check my Melbourne Knights calendar and get back to you :)
Did you get yours this year or are you unable to get down to Melbourne because of the totalitarian travel restrictions?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Jan 2022 4:18 PM
johnsmith - 24 Jan 2022 2:45 PM

Did you get yours this year or are you unable to get down to Melbourne because of the totalitarian travel restrictions?

I got mine in a weeties pack. Is that what you're referring to?
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"totalitarianism" is the latest dog whistle from the far right pushing their anti-semitic agenda through conspiracy fweedumb 'movement' incel facebook groups
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cesspit - 24 Jan 2022 6:19 PM
"totalitarianism" is the latest dog whistle from the far right pushing their anti-semitic agenda through conspiracy fweedumb 'movement' incel facebook groups

Best. Troll. Account. Ever.

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cesspit - 24 Jan 2022 6:19 PM
"totalitarianism" is the latest dog whistle from the far right pushing their anti-semitic agenda through conspiracy fweedumb 'movement' incel facebook groups

Sometimes the things people say are so ludicrous, you feel it's just background noise -- until you realise this is a major push in society because so many influential people say things like that, that suddenly the little people start parroting it until they believe it.

Let's unpack this: So you're saying, because people affirm free speech, that suddenly that makes them "anti-semitic"?)&#)$(%_)@# I mean, listen to yourself say that. It's totally nuts.

But by controlling thousands of people like you, using nonsense like this, that is how nations can be captured by false ideologies.
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johnsmith - 24 Jan 2022 7:21 PM
cesspit - 24 Jan 2022 6:19 PM

Sometimes the things people say are so ludicrous, you feel it's just background noise -- until you realise this is a major push in society because so many influential people say things like that, that suddenly the little people start parroting it until they believe it.

Let's unpack this: So you're saying, because people affirm free speech, that suddenly that makes them "anti-semitic"?)&#)$(%_)@# I mean, listen to yourself say that. It's totally nuts.

But by controlling thousands of people like you, using nonsense like this, that is how nations can be captured by false ideologies.

Cesspit is a troll account. He's winding you up.  Every one of his posts is cliches and tropes that left wing nut-jobs use.  He actually agrees with you....

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This outrage must stop. Tucker is spot on

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tucker-carlson-m-ms-fox-news-woke-b1998656.html

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Munrubenmuz - 23 Jan 2022 4:19 PM
johnsmith - 23 Jan 2022 2:57 PM

Condition of entry is that spectators not engage in commercial or political messaging. This is not an example of cancel culture. (Even if I agree with the messaging and think the CCP are a bunch of pricks.)

Try again.

While respecting your right to believe and speak freely, I note that not everyone thinks the same as you. For example, today's news:

"Aus Open’s drastic backflip"

"Fans at the Australian Open can wear “Where is Peng Shuai?” shirts as long as they are peaceful, tournament chief Craig Tiley told AFP on Tuesday."

"Video emerged on Sunday of security staff ordering spectators to remove shirts and a banner in support of the Chinese player at Melbourne Park. It prompted tennis legend Martina Navratilova to brand the move “pathetic”."

"... with pressure mounting, Tiley said “Where is Peng Shuai?” T-shirts would be permitted as long as those wearing them were peaceful, adding that security would make case-by-case assessments."

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/australian-open-live-day-9-scores-results-ash-barty-time/news-story/fa2ed4ddf443209b4d3dbb9fe056c3db

Here's the difference between freedom-loving Australians versus totalitarian: Someone who stands for freedom will be against any act that censors free speech. Whereas a totalitarian person is fine with censorship that goes along with the rules.

Of course, no one is saying that we should engage in speech that incites violence and hatred, but mere stating of differences of opinion does not fit that definition. The new Australian culture, enshrined in law, is that if the other person is offended, that that is an offence. The generation of Australians that brought in those laws are probably in their 40's - which reflects the attitude of a few fortysomething people on this forum. The education in the 1990's really inculcated you guys with these seed ideas.
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If anything this is obscene capitalism at it's best. It is not done for political purposes, it's done to not offend sponsors and for cash - one of whom is a major drinks brand from China.

it's a term & condition of entry to that event. 

I think besides the jerks in the corporate board you'd struggle to find anyone that doesnt support her and her welfare here....but hey - we're sedning athletes there and our boy coates is all chummy with the Chinese


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tsf - 25 Jan 2022 3:27 PM
If anything this is obscene capitalism at it's best. It is not done for political purposes, it's done to not offend sponsors and for cash - one of whom is a major drinks brand from China.

it's a term & condition of entry to that event. 

I think besides the jerks in the corporate board you'd struggle to find anyone that doesnt support her and her welfare here....but hey - we're sedning athletes there and our boy coates is all chummy with the Chinese


Well, they sent athletes to Berlin before World War 2. Some things never change.

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johnsmith - 25 Jan 2022 3:13 PM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Jan 2022 4:19 PM

While respecting your right to believe and speak freely, I note that not everyone thinks the same as you. For example, today's news:

"Aus Open’s drastic backflip"

"Fans at the Australian Open can wear “Where is Peng Shuai?” shirts as long as they are peaceful, tournament chief Craig Tiley told AFP on Tuesday."

"Video emerged on Sunday of security staff ordering spectators to remove shirts and a banner in support of the Chinese player at Melbourne Park. It prompted tennis legend Martina Navratilova to brand the move “pathetic”."

"... with pressure mounting, Tiley said “Where is Peng Shuai?” T-shirts would be permitted as long as those wearing them were peaceful, adding that security would make case-by-case assessments."

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/australian-open/australian-open-live-day-9-scores-results-ash-barty-time/news-story/fa2ed4ddf443209b4d3dbb9fe056c3db

Here's the difference between freedom-loving Australians versus totalitarian: Someone who stands for freedom will be against any act that censors free speech. Whereas a totalitarian person is fine with censorship that goes along with the rules.

Of course, no one is saying that we should engage in speech that incites violence and hatred, but mere stating of differences of opinion does not fit that definition. The new Australian culture, enshrined in law, is that if the other person is offended, that that is an offence. The generation of Australians that brought in those laws are probably in their 40's - which reflects the attitude of a few fortysomething people on this forum. The education in the 1990's really inculcated you guys with these seed ideas.

Fuck you are dumb. I agree with the shirt wearer however I am cognisant of the fact that this is a private event subject to terms and conditions of entry. And as such they're entitled to  turf her out. Try wearing a rival beer sponsors shirt at the world cup or conduct a political message at the olympics and see how far you get.

Besides which, her getting booted has generated far more headlines than letting her in would have ever done. So it's win win.


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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 3:54 PM
johnsmith - 25 Jan 2022 3:13 PM

 I agree with the shirt wearer

no you don't, you're obviously some sort of CCP supporting commie
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tsf - 25 Jan 2022 4:14 PM
Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 3:54 PM

no you don't, you're obviously some sort of CCP supporting commie

The irony is when a company censor or tailor something to appease China their actions are 100% market based in motive. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 25 Jan 2022 4:57 PM
tsf - 25 Jan 2022 4:14 PM

The irony is when a company censor or tailor something to appease China their actions are 100% market based in motive. 

fuck oath...exactly what's going on here. 


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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 3:54 PM
johnsmith - 25 Jan 2022 3:13 PM

Fuck you are dumb. I agree with the shirt wearer however I am cognisant of the fact that this is a private event subject to terms and conditions of entry. And as such they're entitled to  turf her out. Try wearing a rival beer sponsors shirt at the world cup or conduct a political message at the olympics and see how far you get.

Besides which, her getting booted has generated far more headlines than letting her in would have ever done. So it's win win.

A private event would be the Nabisco Masters.  The Australian Open is a national event, and without national event status its just another tennis tournament.

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Enzo Bearzot - 25 Jan 2022 6:35 PM
Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 3:54 PM

A private event would be the Nabisco Masters.  The Australian Open is a national event, and without national event status its just another tennis tournament.

I stand corrected. In any case just like if you buy a ticket to watch the Broncos or Sydney FC you are subject to conditions of entry of the stadium. Private or government owned.





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tsf - 25 Jan 2022 4:14 PM
Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 3:54 PM

no you don't, you're obviously some sort of CCP supporting commie

Clearly. 


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Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 7:43 PM
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I stand corrected. In any case just like if you buy a ticket to watch the Broncos or Sydney FC you are subject to conditions of entry of the stadium. Private or government owned.

These so called "conditions of entry" just sound like an another vehicle for the militant, radical left to enforce their "newspeak" ideology and charge us with thought crimes.

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sydneyfc1987 - 26 Jan 2022 9:05 AM
Munrubenmuz - 25 Jan 2022 7:43 PM

These so called "conditions of entry" just sound like an another vehicle for the militant, radical left to enforce their "newspeak" ideology and charge us with thought crimes.

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Would they get kicked out if they had a "where is Maddy McCann" tshirt?
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Butler99 - 27 Jan 2022 1:25 PM
Would they get kicked out if they had a "where is Maddy McCann" tshirt?

Which government abducted Maddy McCann? 

A better example would of been the Save Hakeem movement that fozzy pushed.

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sydneyfc1987 - 27 Jan 2022 1:40 PM
Butler99 - 27 Jan 2022 1:25 PM

Which government abducted Maddy McCann? 

A better example would of been the Save Hakeem movement that fozzy pushed.

It's about raising awareness. 
Maybe an issue against the Portuguese authorities. 
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COVID slowly being cancelled around the world???

Denmark will no longer categorize COVID-19 as a “socially critical disease” as of February 1, Health Minister Magnus Heunicke wrote in a letter to the parliament’s epidemiology committee.
Based on the recommendations of the parliament’s epidemiology committee, the government is ready to scrap almost all social restrictions by the end of the month. The “rules will lapse when the illness will no longer be categorized as ‘socially critical’ on 1 February 2022,” Heunicke wrote in the letter.

https://www.politico.eu/article/covid-19-no-longer-a-socially-critical-disease-in-denmark-health-minister-says/

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Butler99 - 27 Jan 2022 2:58 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 27 Jan 2022 1:40 PM

It's about raising awareness. 
Maybe an issue against the Portuguese authorities. 

Great idea, as nobody has ever heard of her. You should try it.

 Be sure to add your Portuguese Authorities ramble too. 
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tsf - 27 Jan 2022 3:55 PM
Butler99 - 27 Jan 2022 2:58 PM

Great idea, as nobody has ever heard of her. You should try it.

 Be sure to add your Portuguese Authorities ramble too. 

You still angry about looking like a fool on the corona thread?? 
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https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/pulitzer-prize-winning-holocaust-book-banned-in-tennessee-20220128-p59rvz.html

Doing what they do down south - burning books that ain't the bible.
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tsf - 28 Jan 2022 2:35 PM

Goes both ways. 

Conservativism Inspires silly leftism. 
Liberalism inspires silly conservatism. 

Everyone just needs to shut up and just worry about their own lives. 
As opposed to the desire to control what others do. 

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2022/1/28/22906501/seattle-school-bans-to-kill-a-mockingbird-over-racism-concerns-as-wave-of-book-challenges-continues
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Butler99 - 29 Jan 2022 7:08 PM
tsf - 28 Jan 2022 2:35 PM

Goes both ways. 


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