That little kid threatened pwoor widdle putin...the kid was also a nazi....did he even care about the eastern bhutan war of 2001?

An absolutely devastating image of dad with his child. People need to think that this is the reality of this war. Not some other fantasy in their heads





Seriously this insanity has to stop. The world needs a reset. Conflict everywhere 

Here you go Enzo. Putin's rationale by Putin himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE

Yup. Think its only a matter of time. If Russia wants/needs to win, it would only punish the civilians more.

Referring to Enzo's sentiment about your neighbour harbouring the military might of your enemy.

While it's great to see the Ukrainians put up a pretty fierce resistance I think it'll just mean Putin will order whole cities flattened because there's no way Putin will pull the pin on this now..

And that means massive casualties.

Bit of a Hobbs choice.

Give up, lose and keep your country somewhat intact and most of your people alive or have the joint bombed back to the stone age with 10's of thousands of deaths.

It's fucked. 

I guess by these trumpist Putin supporter’s logic, once Russia has finished in Ukraine they can then invade poland and then Germany etc because Nato will be on their border 

Thanks for your feedback Loopy multi. 

its to be expected that the alt-right would side with Putin as their man Trump was his puppet

their collective madness has driven them from one mad man in the Whitehouse to a mad man in the Kremlin

they're the same people as anti-vaxxers

Wasn't aware of the Tucker Carlson comments. Bloody hell. It was even used for propaganda by RT. 

The thinking is what position are the 'woke' left taking and I'll go with the opposite of that. 

Tucker Carlson is the Grand Poobah of this line of thought. Must be proud of himself to be plastered all over Russian TV and media singing the praises of Putin.

Indeed. The slightest opposition to war is jailed and their faced smashed in...doyens of free speech

Or if you're a journalist you risk getting assassinated......

But he hates gays (publically) so that's good enough for that lot.

Get Australia to replace them in UEFA.  It will make us better, cut out travel time by three quarters.  win/win.  

I think there is a lot to like about him if you are a hardline  conservative in the west, particularly in respects to his social policies which have resisted western liberalism is gay rights, women's rights.   etc. 

But it is hilarious watching the self appointed protectors of free speech in our country back a man who literally poisons anybody brave enough to stand up to him.

 I didn't realise US had bases and troops stationed there. Sorry genuinely don't know what part of Ukraine has a US military base and US troops? Where is it?

I saw somebody a few days ago ask how would the USA react if Russia and China started building military bases/ stationing troops in Mexico?

I have had a highly skeptical view of western media and our Eurocentric education system etc for a very very long time but it's just not as simple as "our media lie so the other side MUST be telling the truth".

If you believe this is Putin's sole reason then we may as well have believed WMDs.
Surely skepticism has to run both ways and frankly, in the case of a tie breaker, I'd still trust the ABC more than Russian state media

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/fifa-uefa-ban-russia-after-initial-half-measure/100870308

It's strange times when people like Enzo's trust in the media and government/cultural institutions is so low they will take on face value the word of a man and leader like Putin regarding his casus belli (thanks seinfeld).

People like Enzo would have deported people like Enzo back in his good old days :hehe:

Edward price is the new president as biden unable to give press conference during this very uncertain time 
Fmd biden out

It's like every single issue has to be viewed through the same prism. Correct me if I'm wrong but how is this Ukraine thing a 'lefty' issue and if it is what 'lefty' things are we saying?

It's come to this. Your political leanings influence your 'belief' in the science on a range of subjects.

It works for renewables, vaccines, climate change etc etc. If you knew who they voted for you could pretty guarantee what they 'believe'.

Amazing.

Imagine going to an oncologist and they say you need drug XYZ and you said 'hang on I need to check what Trump / the GOP / Scomo says about that first'.

Even this invasion of one country by another has become a stage for culture wars and, like you say, a chance to own the 'leftards'.

Ridiculous.

His only default position or thinking is ‘how can I own the lib tards’, not actually ever based on a nuanced evaluation or considered ideological outlook 

It's definitely not a Loopy article though isn't it? 

"Opinion"
"This article is more than 7 years old"

lol

Had no idea Enzo was a fully committed communist sympathiser.

Putin’s baffling war strategy (msn.com)

Interesting commentary in there about Russian conscripts and motivation etc etc.

Does end on a rather sombre note saying if Russia goes all in with artillery it doesn't matter how committed the locals are it's game over.

From my reading of that it seems for the time being he wants to stick with the narrative of 'regime change' and keep the Russian populace on side who don't want to see thousands of civilians killed.


Just one other thing. The rouble is collapsing. If there's a run on the banks it'll be Putin that finds himself 'regime changed'. Killing people in large numbers hundreds of kilometres away doesn't have the immediacy and personal angst to the Russian peoples of seeing your life's work go down the drain in a couple of days.

I’m not even sticking up for Ukraine. I’m sticking up for human decency. 

So enzo they’re is evidence of genocide is there? 

An "invasion like this" could have been much worse if he  iwanted to obliterate Ukraine.  The damage done has mostly targeted the Ukraine military. 

I think he wants two things: Ukraine neutrality.  The end of the US-back government.

Of course- an attack on one NATO nation is an attack on all of NATO. 

Ukraine government definitely aren't saints , there is no question about that despite the boring self righteous posturing occurring.  

However whether NATO membership is or isn't on the cards it doesn't justify an invasion like this.  

I'd to know if they're doing anything about the gas that runs through Ukraine from Russia,  Putin has had a bug bear about Ukraine's access to the gas for a long time.  

Putin may be holding back the rest of his forces however he must know that if he goes after Estonia, Poland, Latvia or whatever that it's total war.  

Who will give you that evidence?  Western media?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict

After Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, the bulk of the western media abandoned any hint of even-handed coverage. So Putin is now routinely compared to Hitler, while the role of the fascistic right on the streets and in the new Ukrainian regime has been airbrushed out of most reporting as Putinist propaganda.

So you don't hear much about the Ukrainian government's veneration of wartime Nazi collaborators and pogromists, or the arson attacks on the homes and offices of elected communist leaders, or the integration of the extreme Right Sector into the national guard, while the anti-semitism and white supremacism of the government's ultra-nationalists is assiduously played down, and false identifications of Russian special forces are relayed as fact.