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Langerak 2021/22 (Nagoya): 41 appearances 41 conceded 17 clean sheets 3,609 playing minutes 2020/21 (Nagoya): 54 appearances 42 conceded 31 clean sheets 4,860 playing minutes Vukovic 2021/22 (NEC Nijmegen): 4 appearances 4 conceded 1 clean sheets 360 playing minutes 2020/21 (Genk): 24 appearances 32 conceded 4 clean sheets 2,160 playing minutes Redmayne 2021/22 (Sydney): 22 appearances 30 conceded 6 clean sheets 1,980 playing minutes 2020/21 (Sydney): 25 appearances 23 conceded 9 clean sheets 2,250 playing minutes Ryan 2021/22 (Sociedad): 9 appearances 14 conceded 3 clean sheets 810 playing minutes 2020/21 (Brighton/Arsenal): 14 appearances 21 conceded 3 clean sheets 1,260 playing minutes Stats Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Total Minutes: Langerak 8,469 Redmayne 4,230 Vukovic 2,520 Ryan 2,070 Total Appearances Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 95 Redmayne 47 Vukovic 28 Ryan 23 Total Clean Sheets Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 48 Redmayne 15 Vukovic 5 Ryan 6 Total Goals Conceded Per Minutes Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: 1 goal conceded every 102 minutes Redmayne: 1 goal conceded every 80 minutes Vukovic: 1 goal conceded every 70 minutes Ryan: 1 goal conceded every 59 minutes Ratio of Clean Sheets to Games Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: Clean Sheet Every 2.0 Games Redmayne: Clean Sheet Every 3.1 Games Vukovic: Clean Sheet Every 5.6 Games Ryan: Clean Sheet Every 3.8 Games
The non-selection of Langerak is absolutely outrageous as he is statistically far and away our strongest goal keeper, and that includes Mat Ryan. Arnie absolving himself of all responsibility in the decision is pathetic and he is entirely complicit. Seems a prearranged decision by he and Crawley, knowing that Crawley never faces the media and so they're never in a position where they need to properly explain the decision. I'm not on Twitter but would love if someone who is on there could share these stats with Vince Rugari, AussieScout etc to try to further put pressure on Arnold and Crawley for this reprehensible decision. Langerak has been publicly humiliated by being asked to retract his retirement, only to not be chosen in the squad at all, when really, he should be in the first 11 without question. It is garbage that he was approached in case one of the other 3 got injured, as has been suggested. They wouldn't ask someone to come out of retirement to be a 4th choice keeper, and neither would Langerak accept such a proposition. The whole thing has been handled terribly. It is nepotism at its absolute worst, with Crawley looking after his "boys". I hear that Vukovic has been active on Twitter in recent days responding to Tweets that Langerak should have been chosen by saying "but he wasn't, was he" or words to that effect. The arrogance of the untouchable Crawley goalkeeping cartel is breathtaking. It puts a huge stain on this squad.
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Nice work mate, makes the selection even MORE stupefying really.
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It think the only stat that was used was the number of games they participated in, in the qualification. But if this was the case why is taggart not in the team over cummings?
The only justification I can have for not having Langerak (and I don't agree with it), is that Arnie's game plan is to have a sweeper-keeper, and Vuk and Matty have very similar traits so Vuk will slot in well if Matt goes down. If this is the case they should have taken Langerak as the shot stopper over Redders, Australia owe no player anything, and based off talent Langerak should be there over Redmayne.
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Graham Arnold is an arsehole, pure and simple. Doesn't select his own son in law who no one would have had major problem with as although he is not playing regularly, he at least has the most pedigree as any defender in the squad. However, goes out of his way to be a di#k to Langerak even though he should be challenging for first team keeper.
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+xIt think the only stat that was used was the number of games they participated in, in the qualification. But if this was the case why is taggart not in the team over cummings? The only justification I can have for not having Langerak (and I don't agree with it), is that Arnie's game plan is to have a sweeper-keeper, and Vuk and Matty have very similar traits so Vuk will slot in well if Matt goes down. If this is the case they should have taken Langerak as the shot stopper over Redders, Australia owe no player anything, and based off talent Langerak should be there over Redmayne. I would much prefer Langerak over Redmayne there. He deserves to be there. However, the story seems to be that Langerak was asked to come in to camp to 'cover' the three selected keepers. The expectation was that they were the three going and Langerak was asked to come into camp in case someone broke down before the World cup. Do I agree with that - absolutely not - you pick the best - and Mitch is easily in the best 3 at the moment if not the best on form. Mitch and Matty should have been the first two picked. Not relying on stats because strikers in Europe always seem to be more ruthless than those in Japan. As for the third my choice would be Danny - although I could argue for a younger keeper. Redmayne should not be there.
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he will basically blame Crawly too if things dont go well, pretty much has already.
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You forgot the most important stat.
Affiliations with GA at club and Olyroo level:
Ryan - 1
Vukovic - 2
Redmayne - 1
Langerak - 0
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Arnie ditched Djite and Burns before crashing out of the Olympics too.
He is a strange man and possible over thinks the psychological side
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+xYou forgot the most important stat.
Affiliations with GA at club and Olyroo level:
Ryan - 1
Vukovic - 2
Redmayne - 1
Langerak - 0
Redmayne is actually 2
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+xIt think the only stat that was used was the number of games they participated in, in the qualification. But if this was the case why is taggart not in the team over cummings?The only justification I can have for not having Langerak (and I don't agree with it), is that Arnie's game plan is to have a sweeper-keeper, and Vuk and Matty have very similar traits so Vuk will slot in well if Matt goes down. If this is the case they should have taken Langerak as the shot stopper over Redders, Australia owe no player anything, and based off talent Langerak should be there over Redmayne. Not to mention him calling Volpato 3 times begging for a date :)
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He should definitely be our #1, let alone just one of the three.
The stats just make the decision even more embarrassing than the face value, which clearly doesn't pass the pub test at any level of football knowledge.
Here's some more stats from just watching highlights from our last two campaigns:
2018: 5 goals conceded. One good pen that's not saveable, two that maybe could have been stopped and 2 that would have definitely been stopped by a taller keeper/better shot stopper.
2014: 9 goals conceded. Three quality goals and six that should have been saved.
We would have made it out of group stages with Langerak, now or then. We simply haven't got the squad to outscore the soft goals that have been let in the past, and nothing that's happened in the last couple of years suggests Ryan is about to become better.
Happy to eat my hat and be proven wrong in a few weeks.
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Great stats work verrelli 👍 got to hate it when squads are selected by emotion rather than game performance facts
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+xI'm not on Twitter but would love if someone who is on there could share these stats with Vince Rugari, AussieScout etc to try to further put pressure on Arnold and Crawley for this pretty sure ‘sub007’ knows some journalists etc
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+xLangerak 2021/22 (Nagoya): 41 appearances 41 conceded 17 clean sheets 3,609 playing minutes 2020/21 (Nagoya): 54 appearances 42 conceded 31 clean sheets 4,860 playing minutes Vukovic 2021/22 (NEC Nijmegen): 4 appearances 4 conceded 1 clean sheets 360 playing minutes 2020/21 (Genk): 24 appearances 32 conceded 4 clean sheets 2,160 playing minutes Redmayne 2021/22 (Sydney): 22 appearances 30 conceded 6 clean sheets 1,980 playing minutes 2020/21 (Sydney): 25 appearances 23 conceded 9 clean sheets 2,250 playing minutes Ryan 2021/22 (Sociedad): 9 appearances 14 conceded 3 clean sheets 810 playing minutes 2020/21 (Brighton/Arsenal): 14 appearances 21 conceded 3 clean sheets 1,260 playing minutes Stats Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Total Minutes: Langerak 8,469 Redmayne 4,230 Vukovic 2,520 Ryan 2,070 Total Appearances Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 95 Redmayne 47 Vukovic 28 Ryan 23 Total Clean Sheets Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 48 Redmayne 15 Vukovic 5 Ryan 6 Total Goals Conceded Per Minutes Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: 1 goal conceded every 102 minutes Redmayne: 1 goal conceded every 80 minutes Vukovic: 1 goal conceded every 70 minutes Ryan: 1 goal conceded every 59 minutes Ratio of Clean Sheets to Games Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: Clean Sheet Every 2.0 Games Redmayne: Clean Sheet Every 3.1 Games Vukovic: Clean Sheet Every 5.6 Games Ryan: Clean Sheet Every 3.8 Games
The non-selection of Langerak is absolutely outrageous as he is statistically far and away our strongest goal keeper, and that includes Mat Ryan. Arnie absolving himself of all responsibility in the decision is pathetic and he is entirely complicit. Seems a prearranged decision by he and Crawley, knowing that Crawley never faces the media and so they're never in a position where they need to properly explain the decision. I'm not on Twitter but would love if someone who is on there could share these stats with Vince Rugari, AussieScout etc to try to further put pressure on Arnold and Crawley for this reprehensible decision. Langerak has been publicly humiliated by being asked to retract his retirement, only to not be chosen in the squad at all, when really, he should be in the first 11 without question. It is garbage that he was approached in case one of the other 3 got injured, as has been suggested. They wouldn't ask someone to come out of retirement to be a 4th choice keeper, and neither would Langerak accept such a proposition. The whole thing has been handled terribly. It is nepotism at its absolute worst, with Crawley looking after his "boys". I hear that Vukovic has been active on Twitter in recent days responding to Tweets that Langerak should have been chosen by saying "but he wasn't, was he" or words to that effect. The arrogance of the untouchable Crawley goalkeeping cartel is breathtaking. It puts a huge stain on this squad.
Thanks for compiling and posting these stats, Verrelli. No doubt Mitch is a consummate shot stopper. He has also had a lot of game time. However, a modern keeper needs to play as a sweeper for most modern teams. S/he needs to be proactive in build ups from the back. He could have improved, but Langerak isn't as good as some other Aussie keepers at playing the ball with his feet on the deck and sweeping. So essentially, he is a more reactive keeper. Another part of a keeper's skill set is commanding the pen box. Having said this, Arnie chased Langerak. I'd like to know his rationale for leaving him out.
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+xGraham Arnold is an arsehole, pure and simple. Doesn't select his own son in law who no one would have had major problem with as although he is not playing regularly, he at least has the most pedigree as any defender in the squad. Disagree. Sains has struggled, by his own standards, for some time for the Socceroos. Moreover, he hasn't played a lot of club football over the last 7 years.
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+xHe should definitely be our #1, let alone just one of the three. The stats just make the decision even more embarrassing than the face value, which clearly doesn't pass the pub test at any level of football knowledge. Here's some more stats from just watching highlights from our last two campaigns: 2018: 5 goals conceded. One good pen that's not saveable, two that maybe could have been stopped and 2 that would have definitely been stopped by a taller keeper/better shot stopper. 2014: 9 goals conceded. Three quality goals and six that should have been saved.We would have made it out of group stages with Langerak, now or then. We simply haven't got the squad to outscore the soft goals that have been let in the past, and nothing that's happened in the last couple of years suggests Ryan is about to become better. Happy to eat my hat and be proven wrong in a few weeks. The majority of which were because Franjic and Davidson would not keep a straight line in defence. Get the defence right and we would have qualified for the next round.
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+x+xHe should definitely be our #1, let alone just one of the three. The stats just make the decision even more embarrassing than the face value, which clearly doesn't pass the pub test at any level of football knowledge. Here's some more stats from just watching highlights from our last two campaigns: 2018: 5 goals conceded. One good pen that's not saveable, two that maybe could have been stopped and 2 that would have definitely been stopped by a taller keeper/better shot stopper. 2014: 9 goals conceded. Three quality goals and six that should have been saved.We would have made it out of group stages with Langerak, now or then. We simply haven't got the squad to outscore the soft goals that have been let in the past, and nothing that's happened in the last couple of years suggests Ryan is about to become better. Happy to eat my hat and be proven wrong in a few weeks. The majority of which were because Franjic and Davidson would not keep a straight line in defence. Get the defence right and we would have qualified for the next round. Possibly but it was not a good tournament for Ryan. It's a credit to him that he ever even rose again after it really.
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+x+xYou forgot the most important stat.
Affiliations with GA at club and Olyroo level:
Ryan - 1
Vukovic - 2
Redmayne - 1
Langerak - 0
Redmayne is actually 2 Yeah, spot on guys. According to AussieScout on Twitter: "All three of the selected goalkeepers - Andrew Redmayne, Maty Ryan and Danny Vuković - are Crawley protegés, from their time at Westfields Sports High, the Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC respectively." For those who haven't heard, AussieScout also stated: "Socceroos goalkeeping coach John Crawley picked the Socceroos goalkeepers and called the goalkeepers to tell them if they had been selected. Crawley's call with Mitch Langerak was heated, with Langerak believed to have accused him of nepotism and dishonesty for not picking him."
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+x+xGraham Arnold is an arsehole, pure and simple. Doesn't select his own son in law who no one would have had major problem with as although he is not playing regularly, he at least has the most pedigree as any defender in the squad. Disagree. Sains has struggled, by his own standards, for some time for the Socceroos. Moreover, he hasn't played a lot of club football over the last 7 years. Souttar hasn't played football in over a year, plus the only game Australia has had against a quality side in recent times Sains had a solid game whereas Souttar had an extremely poor one. So, what's the justification in picking him. Bailey Wright has barely played in the championship this year, Rowles has spent the last 3 months out injured and started 8 times in the J2, so why is Sains being singled out. Almost seems like some sort of masterplan from Arnold to divert attention off his other poor and biased squad decisions.
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+xLangerak 2021/22 (Nagoya): 41 appearances 41 conceded 17 clean sheets 3,609 playing minutes 2020/21 (Nagoya): 54 appearances 42 conceded 31 clean sheets 4,860 playing minutes Vukovic 2021/22 (NEC Nijmegen): 4 appearances 4 conceded 1 clean sheets 360 playing minutes 2020/21 (Genk): 24 appearances 32 conceded 4 clean sheets 2,160 playing minutes Redmayne 2021/22 (Sydney): 22 appearances 30 conceded 6 clean sheets 1,980 playing minutes 2020/21 (Sydney): 25 appearances 23 conceded 9 clean sheets 2,250 playing minutes Ryan 2021/22 (Sociedad): 9 appearances 14 conceded 3 clean sheets 810 playing minutes 2020/21 (Brighton/Arsenal): 14 appearances 21 conceded 3 clean sheets 1,260 playing minutes Stats Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Total Minutes: Langerak 8,469 Redmayne 4,230 Vukovic 2,520 Ryan 2,070 Total Appearances Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 95 Redmayne 47 Vukovic 28 Ryan 23 Total Clean Sheets Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak 48 Redmayne 15 Vukovic 5 Ryan 6 Total Goals Conceded Per Minutes Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: 1 goal conceded every 102 minutes Redmayne: 1 goal conceded every 80 minutes Vukovic: 1 goal conceded every 70 minutes Ryan: 1 goal conceded every 59 minutes Ratio of Clean Sheets to Games Played Over Last 2 Full Seasons: Langerak: Clean Sheet Every 2.0 Games Redmayne: Clean Sheet Every 3.1 Games Vukovic: Clean Sheet Every 5.6 Games Ryan: Clean Sheet Every 3.8 Games
The non-selection of Langerak is absolutely outrageous as he is statistically far and away our strongest goal keeper, and that includes Mat Ryan. Arnie absolving himself of all responsibility in the decision is pathetic and he is entirely complicit. Seems a prearranged decision by he and Crawley, knowing that Crawley never faces the media and so they're never in a position where they need to properly explain the decision. I'm not on Twitter but would love if someone who is on there could share these stats with Vince Rugari, AussieScout etc to try to further put pressure on Arnold and Crawley for this reprehensible decision. Langerak has been publicly humiliated by being asked to retract his retirement, only to not be chosen in the squad at all, when really, he should be in the first 11 without question. It is garbage that he was approached in case one of the other 3 got injured, as has been suggested. They wouldn't ask someone to come out of retirement to be a 4th choice keeper, and neither would Langerak accept such a proposition. The whole thing has been handled terribly. It is nepotism at its absolute worst, with Crawley looking after his "boys". I hear that Vukovic has been active on Twitter in recent days responding to Tweets that Langerak should have been chosen by saying "but he wasn't, was he" or words to that effect. The arrogance of the untouchable Crawley goalkeeping cartel is breathtaking. It puts a huge stain on this squad.
The only possible conclusion is that Crawley and Arnold have selected mates. Disgraceful.
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+x+x+xYou forgot the most important stat.
Affiliations with GA at club and Olyroo level:
Ryan - 1
Vukovic - 2
Redmayne - 1
Langerak - 0
Redmayne is actually 2 Yeah, spot on guys. According to AussieScout on Twitter: "All three of the selected goalkeepers - Andrew Redmayne, Maty Ryan and Danny Vuković - are Crawley protegés, from their time at Westfields Sports High, the Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC respectively." For those who haven't heard, AussieScout also stated: "Socceroos goalkeeping coach John Crawley picked the Socceroos goalkeepers and called the goalkeepers to tell them if they had been selected. Crawley's call with Mitch Langerak was heated, with Langerak believed to have accused him of nepotism and dishonesty for not picking him." Crawley looked after all three at CCM
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Look at Vukovic tweet.
It looks like this was because of mates thing. They had a jobs for the boys group
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It's an inexcusable and unjustifiable decision. If it really was about sweeper keepers, then why take Redmayne? The only thing that would kind of makes sense is if Arnold was offended by Langerak's retirement during qualification and is refusing to take him on principle. But then why bother convincing him to come back in the first place? There's just no logic to it at all. It's possible that something has gone on behind the scenes that we don't know about, but it makes Arnold seem like a true moron.
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Langerak should be number 1. Ridiculous he’s not in the squad.
People talk about sweeper keepers like it’s more important than shot saving, it’s not. Every game Ryan plays against quality teams proves this as we usually lose to some soft goals. For me Langerak in goal against France any day of the week.
Plus why are we taking 3 over 30 GKs? Should’ve been Langerak no.1 Ryan no.2 younger gk (possibly Gauci) no.3
Disgraceful Arnie disclosed he didn’t make the GK selection personally, already setting up his fall guy.
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+xLangerak should be number 1. Ridiculous he’s not in the squad. People talk about sweeper keepers like it’s more important than shot saving, it’s not. Every game Ryan plays against quality teams proves this as we usually lose to some soft goals. For me Langerak in goal against France any day of the week. Plus why are we taking 3 over 30 GKs? Should’ve been Langerak no.1 Ryan no.2 younger gk (possibly Gauci) no.3 Disgraceful Arnie disclosed he didn’t make the GK selection personally, already setting up his fall guy. Spot on. I had Langerak, Ryan and Gauci in the squad I would have chosen. Each of these 3 guys won't be around in 4 years. Totally agree that the no. 3 should have been Gauci or whoever is considered the most likely to be GK in 2026.
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+x+xLangerak should be number 1. Ridiculous he’s not in the squad. People talk about sweeper keepers like it’s more important than shot saving, it’s not. Every game Ryan plays against quality teams proves this as we usually lose to some soft goals. For me Langerak in goal against France any day of the week. Plus why are we taking 3 over 30 GKs? Should’ve been Langerak no.1 Ryan no.2 younger gk (possibly Gauci) no.3 Disgraceful Arnie disclosed he didn’t make the GK selection personally, already setting up his fall guy. Spot on. I had Langerak, Ryan and Gauci in the squad I would have chosen. Each of these 3 guys won't be around in 4 years. Totally agree that the no. 3 should have been Gauci or whoever is considered the most likely to be GK in 2026. I would have had Langerak, Ryan and Vukovic/Gauci. After the World Cup we need to focus on 2026. Langerak, Vukovic and Redmayne will long be retired by 2026 and Ryan will be 34. That's why the case is good for Gauci now - as for the Asian Cup the second and third keeper will need to be people that can step up and challenge and/or then replace Maty. Thomas is the same age as Maty but apart from Gauci I'm not convinced by the next batch of keepers after that.
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It's instructive that literally no one agrees with Langerak's non-selection. Even the 2 die hard Arnie fanboys in here try to deflect attention away from it rather than actually defending the decision. It's the dumbest call ever (particularly as it sounds like Ryan is injured) and has put a real dampener on the squad announcement.
I had some hope for the WC. I thought we might get lucky and was cheering for Arnie to prove the boo boys wrong. Instead I now realise the boo boys were right all along. Arnie has turned out to be a complete idiot. My faith is now zero.
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+xIt's instructive that literally no one agrees with Langerak's non-selection. Even the 2 die hard Arnie fanboys in here try to deflect attention away from it rather than actually defending the decision. It's the dumbest call ever (particularly as it sounds like Ryan is injured) and has put a real dampener on the squad announcement.
How many of those people calling for Langerak's selection have current pro playing experience, recent high level goalkeeper experience or current semi-pro/pro coaching training? Just because of a lot of people on a football forum, who don't coach football, and haven't trained in coaching, call for the same thing, means they are correct. Having said that, I'm still surprised Langerak has not been selected? That is after Arnie chased him to return.
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+x+xIt's instructive that literally no one agrees with Langerak's non-selection. Even the 2 die hard Arnie fanboys in here try to deflect attention away from it rather than actually defending the decision. It's the dumbest call ever (particularly as it sounds like Ryan is injured) and has put a real dampener on the squad announcement.
How many of those people calling for Langerak's selection have current pro playing experience, recent high level goalkeeper experience or current semi-pro/pro coaching training? Just because of a lot of people on a football forum, who don't coach football, and haven't trained in coaching, call for the same thing, means they are correct. Having said that, I'm still surprised Langerak has not been selected? That is after Arnie chased him to return. You do realise this football forums are for poeple stating their opinion, right?
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Vukovic’s tweet is simply highlighting how he never said no to the Socceroos, whilst others did. I am so proud of our country for not selecting a player who retired during years of qualification slog, only to make himself available after we’d qualified. I hope Langerak never plays for the Roos again with that attitude - I feel the same towards Volpato.
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