As much as I appreciate the longevity of some local keepers, it's an annoyance how it hinders the next batch coming through. Sure, the youth need to earn it and perform well. Some have but end up back out of the team namely Margush and Heward-Belle

Definitely a huge shame given the abundance of quality we seem to have in these areas. Our keepers rate among the best - not necessarily the very best but all could play in top leagues in Europe. If we produced this quality in every position, we could win the World Cup.

We need more professional teams: at least two more A-League teams and an entire second division. I’d also like to see more Aussie goalkeepers in Asia. The Asian goalkeepers (particularly in east Asia) aren’t quite on the same level I don’t think, so there’s an opportunity to exploit before they eventually catch up.

Travesty. Like murali overtaking Warne. 

@Muz, thanks

good to see

Damine Mori says hi.

Not to mention being totally outplayed.

Credit to the guy, but whenever we see those hypothetical "best aleague squad of all time" lists, he will be no where near the starting lineup. JMac is just too one dimensional. I probably wouldn't even have him on my bench. 

First : there are more than enough quality footballers playing aleague, in the academies and even in NPL, the problem is when you put them together into an aleague team and you try to get them to play as a team is where it fails. Just look at the teams in the comp at the moment and it tells you the whole story. To me there is only the CC who I'll watch knowing that it will be a quality team effort. MC and AU are inconsistent and the rest are just poor and not worth the time to watch.
Second : There is only one aspect of goal scoring that is essential and that is scoring goals. It don't matter whether you like or dislike McLaren but he does his job well, in fact, better than anyone else.
Third : The people who are not going to the game know that the team play is rubbish and don't want to waste there hard earned, especially in the current  economic environment.
How do we fix this problem : Better coaches.
I watch the academy teams play and it's a pleasure until they get into the first team and then it all disappears.

Not sure how you can say MC are inconsistent. They have 8 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss. They are by far the most consistent team this season.

 Just an aside from the Mariners games last night a couple of interesting observations from last night from the side lines....

• Goodwin being warmly applauded when he left the pitch ... no doubt some recognition of his WC campaign - with the crowd acknowledged in return. this is the type of fan behavior that the APL should be drawing attention to
• Goodwin also signing autographs on the pitch after the match. i am not sure who instigated this but it seemed a popular enough decision ... and credit to him after his side had had their arses handed to them

The last few years in particular I've warmed up to Goodwin so much that he's truly an A League legend. First A League based Australian world cup scorer?

That's a great question, was Smeltz the first ever A League scorer at a WC? 

Nice to see Al Hassan Toure scoring

* Pathetic keeping from Redmayne.  Didn't need to come out and got himself isolated metres out from his goal line.
* I hate VAR, both for the offsides and for the penalties and the disallowed goal. It's ruined football as far as I'm concerned.  Get rid of it.   
* The red cards were 100% correct despite Talay going off his brain on the sideline.
* Corica must be on thin ice,  lacklustre,  no movement, misplaced passes galore, as I always say.  A Corica team is very, very easy to play against and Talay setup his team perfectly.   

I suppose when Lolley and Brattan and Wilkinson come back things might be better.

Some good football on display from Melb City.

Loved Tilio's running with the ball for some distance at speed, a left foot body swerve/shoulder around a defender and a neat shot into the corner for a superb goal!

Maclaren scored yet another classic striker's goal from a sage position in the pen box.  He should stay at City, and renew his contract and forget moving abroad. There are few scenarios anywhere in world professional  football where potential Socceroo strikers are scoring a lot of goals.

Yes, Smeltz was the first AL WC scorer.

Goodwin has scored 2 WC goals (I'm giving him the Argentinian strike, not an own goal), Leckie as an AL player has scored 1 WC goal and Duke as a recent AL player has scored 1 WC goal.

Goodwin is a very intelligent footballer.

I'm very proud of these guys! I love telling all the non-football fans, who I drink with, about their exploits and the Socceroos finishing 11th in Qatar! 

Terrific to hear this!

As much as I'd like to think Goodwin scored 2 goals at the world cup the second was going into Row Z. Would have been given as a penalty had it not gone in though.

Tilio's goal was a deflection. Was aiming for far corner.

BUT a great run and well deserved. Had a terrific game.

In the second half after the send off for sure.

First half take out the own gola and we had the better chances and I never felt that worried with all the pointless posession the mariners had.

Second half was one of the best of all time collapses in aleague history.

First time in 17 years I have switched an Adelaide game off before the end.

We will be lucky to scrape into the finals at this rate and to think pre-world cup I had my eye on 2nd place the way we were going.

Too many kids in key positions and too many idiotic red cards and penalties by the old players.

He is a class act and kudos to the fans for his applause after being subbed.
I saw this on the highlights. My tele was long turned off by then ha ha

Struggling to think of any - the only one I can think of was when Vukovic was unsighted until late and spilled his first attempt?

I've re-watched the first half and I will amend:
We had as many and possibly more dangerous attacking forays into the box in the 1st half.

I never felt that worried about the game until the red card.
We clearly set up to counter and most of the game was played in front of us till then.

While we were certainly 2nd to 50 50s and our children gave up countless needless possession I felt like it was going to be a frustrating 1-0 or 1-1 game till the red.

Perth vs Brisbane is on tonight 

Love to see PG win they need leg up over there...

Heh.
My reverse-jinx strategy worked!

On a Tuesday night.     If more than a thousand people stream this match on Paramount I'd be very surprised.   Paramount starting to treat the league like Fox did.  

What have Paramount done? They don't choose the fixture time as far as I know 

Perth up 1-0

They're active sounds like real good fun shed us going off 

These late games are a killer on the east coast for players and fans

Are them over in the west really Australian? They seem different, even more than the Tasmanians.