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Might be worth having a thread for this tournament. https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/how-watch-australia-afc-u-20-asian-cup-uzbekistan-2023tmWe need to make the semis. This is a chance for someone to make a name for themselves.
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It’s a shame that none of our GKs have a single senior appearance between them. None of them are even 2nd choice keepers at A-League level - these guys aren’t even making match day squads.
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+xIt’s a shame that none of our GKs have a single senior appearance between them. None of them are even 2nd choice keepers at A-League level - these guys aren’t even making match day squads. Definitely cause for concern.
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Melbcityguy
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+x+xIt’s a shame that none of our GKs have a single senior appearance between them. None of them are even 2nd choice keepers at A-League level - these guys aren’t even making match day squads. Definitely cause for concern. Any thoughts on the starting line up?
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I'll have to have a deeper look at our young keepers of age who are playing.
Actually very excited to see Rawlins who has already been at U23 level. Matt Dench from Charlton is an interesting one and Archie Goodwin is important and will hopefully deliver.
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We're down 1-0 to s pretty good strike
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Oh god we were god awful. Couldn't string 3 passes against vietnam
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That first half typifies Australian football issues to a tie, the inability to be functional in possession and be able to create chances when they have the ball.
This isnt an issue with just this under 20 level but goes at all levels including the Socceroos and Matildas as well.
The under 17s had similar issues in that tournament in Turkey as well.
We just not good in possession or forced to create chances and rely alot on counter attacks and set pieces which we are comfortable more doing.
We need to be much better second half otherwise we could miss out on another u20 World Cup very easily here, at least gives us functional football?
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+xThat first half typifies Australian football issues to a tie, the inability to be functional in possession and be able to create chances when they have the ball. This isnt an issue with just this under 20 level but goes at all levels including the Socceroos and Matildas as well. The under 17s had similar issues in that tournament in Turkey as well. We just not good in possession or forced to create chances and rely alot on counter attacks and set pieces which we are comfortable more doing. We need to be much better second half otherwise we could miss out on another u20 World Cup very easily here, at least gives us functional football? The second half wasn't any better, seriously something needs to change here and I don't think the talent is an issue as well its which ones are selected and how they are used. I think the curriculum needs an overhaul too, the talk about playing pro-active and effective possession but its not working at this level. It may had an effect a decade ago when the document was first created but these days it seems like an outdated method when the opposition teams see how Australian teams play with the ball at this level. And its very predictable!
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+x+xThat first half typifies Australian football issues to a tie, the inability to be functional in possession and be able to create chances when they have the ball. This isnt an issue with just this under 20 level but goes at all levels including the Socceroos and Matildas as well. The under 17s had similar issues in that tournament in Turkey as well. We just not good in possession or forced to create chances and rely alot on counter attacks and set pieces which we are comfortable more doing. We need to be much better second half otherwise we could miss out on another u20 World Cup very easily here, at least gives us functional football? The second half wasn't any better, seriously something needs to change here and I don't think the talent is an issue as well its which ones are selected and how they are used. I think the curriculum needs an overhaul too, the talk about playing pro-active and effective possession but its not working at this level. It may had an effect a decade ago when the document was first created but these days it seems like an outdated method when the opposition teams see how Australian teams play with the ball at this level. And its very predictable! Mostly 11 individuals with very little cohesion. The guy on the left wing could not beat anyone, no wonder he has been on tge pitch for Melbourne City. Drop him
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Borges needs to come off now
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Good to see Hrustic out there. Seems a replay from years back with Tongyik and Susnjar.
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Having a browse over previous tournaments. Leckie and Amini went all the way from the 2010 runner up batch. Gameiro absolutely mauled the tournament in 2012 which gave us the 2013 Brillante rocket goal. It's interesting that anyone who seemingly killed it at this age (Bulut) never made it and our full internationals came along much later. If a young striker today scored 6 like Gamerio did we'd think everything is solved up top.
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When we got to final third they got ideas what to do. There are no one with ability to run and break their defence. Movement are slow and predictable. Sad day for Australian football.
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Has any of these kids ever kicked a corner kick before? Why have to kick so high??
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Any team with Wiltshire involved with coaching will struggle
blokes a grub and not good for young impressionable players
however it’s still “jobs for the boys” in all levels of Aus football
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+xAny team with Wiltshire involved with coaching will struggle blokes a grub and not good for young impressionable players however it’s still “jobs for the boys” in all levels of Aus football Yes jobs for boys only happens in Australia
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Pretty awful viewing. Vietnam great at faking injuries
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Same tripe like always at this level. Rawlins and Triantis clearly sharper from their club games, We had much more possession of course.
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why is this british bloke the manager of our u-20 national team? his cv doesn't exactly set the world on fire.
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67% possession to Australia but Only 4 shots at goal, 1 on target. 9 shots for Vietnam, 3 on target. Might just be me but Vietnam players looked fitter, faster and hungrier too
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https://youtu.be/7HfHgN3jGcYPlenty of Match highlights on the channel. Such an important international experience for ours players. I still feel there's a lack of seriousness in preparation, selection and demeanour from ourselves. The U23 last year looked alright but also had shabby moments where I shook my head.
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+xhttps://youtu.be/7HfHgN3jGcYPlenty of Match highlights on the channel. Such an important international experience for ours players. I still feel there's a lack of seriousness in preparation, selection and demeanour from ourselves. The U23 last year looked alright but also had shabby moments where I shook my head. Agreed, we are still incredibly naive when it comes to these tournaments especially at u20 level. Whilst we may believe the players who have debuted in A-League are the best players to represent us, it comes down to form at time of selection, and a lot of these guys have not played much A-League, let alone football in the past 3-4 months apart from Triantis. NPL football only just started, so most of these guys would not have played much competitive football for the last 6 months if they hadn't have had sporadic game-time in the AL. Y-League..... N2D...... FA? Dwight Yorke nailed it.
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Japan 2 China 1
Saudi Arabia 1 Kyrgyzstan 0. AFC cut the foul for the penalty from the highlights. Apparently dodgy Saudi yet again.
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Up against Iran in 30mins at 9pm.
At a glance there's been a bit of rotation.
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What’s with these shit line-ups. Our better players seem to be remaining on the bench.
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Honestly. Fuck off. A disgrace to the shirt these opening minutes.
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OMG we score from playing directly!!!!
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Rawlins at LCB in build up. Keep an eye on that. Clearly one of the sharpest out there and he's played at U23 level.
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Triantis is Sainsbury 2.0. Sprinklers....
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Minutes this season:
Lopane 227
Segecic 651
Drew 742
Simmons 172
Popvic 493
Forde 286
O'Donnell 122
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What a lovely free kick goal by Segecic! 2:0
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Tokyo vibes this seeing our young players unexpectedly do well. Despite the absolute blindness of the opening 2min we seem focused and pumped. Interesting is our best two in Rawlins and Triantis are calm and poised as a CB pairing.
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WAs release for this mandatory by clubs? I totally get how Adelaide would feel with Irankunda. I'd have to trawl to find anyone of eligible who shouldn't have missed out. To show how young this age is, Bos and Teague are ineligible. Can debate it all day but I wish Garang were here for this. The big if of making the WC means hopefully the better bunch will all go.
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Goal Iran. Way to casual by Forde there.
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Good save by JW
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3:1. Lovely transition!!! Segecic on the double
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Bernado having fun with the space afforded. Good game management experience for these players now. Should have buried a 4th by now.
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Has to be said drew is very impressive
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+xHas to be said drew is very impressive Young Leckie strong drive on ball type.
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OH FFS victory on Drew's foot but they scramble to block. Should have done better. We're still pushing and fighting but two goal leads and Iran....
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After multiple chances denied at their end Iran now make it 2:3 with 10 to go. Now we're in for a big big fight. So unnecessary.
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Really scrappy goals to concede
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8 added. Rigged!
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So far hanging on
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That was their chance
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Australia win. Iran miss a sitter at the death. Could've been 7:3 for Australia. Hard fought and a good second half. Should have buried it earlier with a fourth goal as that second Iran goal really saw the clock standstill for 20min. A good aggressive battle by the Australian players. Lots of block by Iran for the Australian chances.
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Decent performance against one of the best afc nations
where is alargich out of curiosity?
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So I guess we want Qatar to beat Vietnam?
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+xSo I guess we want Qatar to beat Vietnam? It appears H2H is the tie breaker. The group is thrown open now.
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Madanha just got up and down the wing today as a right back. Top shift. The centre back pairing of Triantis and Rawlins was very composed and their sharpness and superior level showed. Forde not too good today. Weak for the first goal. Upon reflection O'Donnell was very industrious and started to shine near the end winning the ball. Lopane was ok. Segecic had his day. Drew was most impressive and Popovic had good positioning to help chances develop. Oliveria looked very comfortable against a tiring Iran. We won but it's a shame we didn't get the fouth goal.
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STATS
Aus-Iran
Pos: 46:54
Shots: 21:9
On target: 8:6
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+xSTATS Aus-Iran Pos: 46:54 Shots: 21:9 On target: 8:6 Much better with the ball movement in this game, we moved the ball quicker which helped too. Also we pressed alot better which I dont think they tried enough against Vietnam who played quite slow.
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If we are serious Segecic should be the next No.10 after Rogic and Hrustic, hes that good for me.
Technically excellent but has that creativity and vision which made me think he reminds me of a player in Daniel Pehna when he at the Jets and we know how good he was for them but this time we have Aussie version with Segecic.
But we know he's at a club that doesn't often play young players especially when they use him out of position too so this is a concern, I really feel Australian coaches dont give the same responsibility to young Australian players who play in those key positions on the pitch contrast to foreign players who get the benefit of the doubt.
Because we have players capable of playing in key creative and forward positions as we seen with Botic recently, but it just that it takes some balls from local coaches to do so which is disappointing.
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+xIf we are serious Segecic should be the next No.10 after Rogic and Hrustic, hes that good for me. Technically excellent but has that creativity and vision which made me think he reminds me of a player in Daniel Pehna when he at the Jets and we know how good he was for them but this time we have Aussie version with Segecic. But we know he's at a club that doesn't often play young players especially when they use him out of position too so this is a concern, I really feel Australian coaches dont give the same responsibility to young Australian players who play in those key positions on the pitch contrast to foreign players who get the benefit of the doubt. Because we have players capable of playing in key creative and forward positions as we seen with Botic recently, but it just that it takes some balls from local coaches to do so which is disappointing. Great comment thanks.
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+xIf we are serious Segecic should be the next No.10 after Rogic and Hrustic, hes that good for me. Technically excellent but has that creativity and vision which made me think he reminds me of a player in Daniel Pehna when he at the Jets and we know how good he was for them but this time we have Aussie version with Segecic. But we know he's at a club that doesn't often play young players especially when they use him out of position too so this is a concern, I really feel Australian coaches dont give the same responsibility to young Australian players who play in those key positions on the pitch contrast to foreign players who get the benefit of the doubt. Because we have players capable of playing in key creative and forward positions as we seen with Botic recently, but it just that it takes some balls from local coaches to do so which is disappointing. Segecic has been our standout so far, but our next no. 10 for the Socceroos needs to be Volpato. It will be a massive loss if Arnie can't get him over the line to play for us.
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+x+xIf we are serious Segecic should be the next No.10 after Rogic and Hrustic, hes that good for me. Technically excellent but has that creativity and vision which made me think he reminds me of a player in Daniel Pehna when he at the Jets and we know how good he was for them but this time we have Aussie version with Segecic. But we know he's at a club that doesn't often play young players especially when they use him out of position too so this is a concern, I really feel Australian coaches dont give the same responsibility to young Australian players who play in those key positions on the pitch contrast to foreign players who get the benefit of the doubt. Because we have players capable of playing in key creative and forward positions as we seen with Botic recently, but it just that it takes some balls from local coaches to do so which is disappointing. Segecic has been our standout so far, but our next no. 10 for the Socceroos needs to be Volpato. It will be a massive loss if Arnie can't get him over the line to play for us. Agree that he's another option as well but what ive seen Segecic should be considered for the Olyroos squad too.
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Wonder why sfc arent playing him much?
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+xWonder why sfc arent playing him much? They have a history that's for sure as a big club with an conservative coach in Corica who favours the older players, as we know they also let talented players in Tilio and Hollman go as well. Also the likes of Yazbek, Peupion and Teague were sold overseas so its odd for a club they develops good young players to either let them go or not used enough or least give them more scope to develop. The need of more teams through the NSD and expansion should help but clubs need to be conscious when to use talented young players as well I think.
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Just need these younger players to be given the faith and played more than hack recycled locals and underwhelming imports. Sure, the league needs top quality from abroad and the young players need to earn it but there's enough game time around. WU for example, Botic is starting and kicking on. Pain, Troisi, Kilkenny are still serving well but I fear it keeps the younger players out that bit longer. Two more A league clubs would relieve the pressure.
Segicic is surrounded by a number of good seasoned players.
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Vietnam beat Qatar 2:1. Too many H2H equations now....
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+xVietnam beat Qatar 2:1. Too many H2H equations now.... So beating Qatar would see us through then, wouldn't it?
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It’s funny how we seem to have matured as football fans in Australia. There was a long period not too long ago where we would all hate on Pim, Holger, and any underage NT manager for playing directly. Especially during the years of Roarcelona, we would literally regularly complain even after a win, if we played too many long balls.
Now we praise crosses into the box, and are happy when we play to our strengths like our height and physicality.
We’ve slowly, but eventually, learned that national team football is results football, and that the result is all that matters when managers only have their squads for such short periods of time every camp.
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+xIt’s funny how we seem to have matured as football fans in Australia. There was a long period not too long ago where we would all hate on Pim, Holger, and any underage NT manager for playing directly. Especially during the years of Roarcelona, we would literally regularly complain even after a win, if we played too many long balls. Now we praise crosses into the box, and are happy when we play to our strengths like our height and physicality. We’ve slowly, but eventually, learned that national team football is results football, and that the result is all that matters when managers only have their squads for such short periods of time every camp. Whatever got us the result and shots on goal. Being flexible. No point of having 80% possession and no shot on target
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Some quality players in this squad-Rawlins,Triantis,Madanha,Drew ,Bernardo and Segecic.
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really like the look of Segicic. Hope he at least stays in AL for another season or two and then goes overseas. He has the grit and ability to win games on his own and we dont have many aussie players who can do that.
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We go again tonight folks see you at 9
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11 for Qatar seems to follow the majority of best form so far. I So want to go to this world cup. It's in Indonesia across the water. No games in Bali though.
Compared to the big world cup, Asia is the last confederation to end qualifying so we can already see everyone who is there waiting.
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Link for tonights match?
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That goal Qatar scored was dreadful from us
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+xThat goal Qatar scored was dreadful from us We're looking a lot better now since our goal. I have to say though, after all of the lead up talk about Triantis before the tournament, he's been fairly ordinary. I was expecting a hell of a lot more from him.
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Ok back in business need two more goals
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+xOk back in business need two more goals Link please?
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+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now.
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+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it?
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+x+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it? Its on 10play
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+x+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it? It's on 10 play mate
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+x+x+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it? It's on 10 play mate Thanks. I can't find it. Web or app?
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+x+x+x+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it? It's on 10 play mate Thanks. I can't find it. Web or app? https://10play.com.au/
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+x+x+x+x+x+xOk back in business need two more goals 3-1 now. What the fuck. Where are you blokes watching this? Why won't someone please say where you can watch it? It's on 10 play mate Thanks. I can't find it. Web or app? https://10play.com.au/ You might need a login
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Australia needs to move away from these traditional number 9s, we have so many fast skilled wing forwards and we put a slow man up top most tournaments.
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Been busy in class. Wow good to see a comeback after going down. Always feel we crumble when conceding but this is a good show. Keep it up.
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+xBeen busy in class. Wow good to see a comeback after going down. Always feel we crumble when conceding but this is a good show. Keep it up. Very good performance so far, some miss passes, but general play very quick & skillful, bit of luck could've had a couple more, while they have not really create any chances since their goal.
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Donnell has been industrious and a great find. Listed as a defender but isn't he in central mid? Can tackle, score and cross. We're so stacked that guys like O'Neill and Thurgate will likely never play for Australia but their waves of form wouldn't see them out of place as a squad reserve. Still, stacked to hell.
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Righto thanks to all. Have it on my phone but fucked if I can find it on my laptop. I mean the game link is there but it's not playing.
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+xRighto thanks to all. Have it on my phone but fucked if I can find it on my laptop. I mean the game link is there but it's not playing. Have you got a smart tv? Download the app and scroll through to end. I’m watching on tv
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4:1 at HT. Insanely brilliant! With Iran leading Vietnam 1:0 at HT too. Still trying to get H2H around my head when 3 teams finish on equal points and have all beaten each other. Vietnam beat us, we beat Iran, say Iran beat Vietnam. We should be ok today with this lead. Some (probably Vietnamese internet guy) has updated the wiki table to live https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_AFC_U-20_Asian_Cup#Group_ATiebreaker 2 is GD amongst three teams in question so Aus GD should be negative 1 for Vietnam plus 1 for Iran to zero. Qatar can't be included for GD. Vietnam would be on 0 too 1:0 vs Aus and 0:1 vs Iran while Iran would be on 0 too 1:0 vs Vietnam and 2:3 vs Aus. So we go to goals scored. 3 for Australia vs Vietnam and Iran respectively. Vietnam only have 1 scored so far while Iran are on 3. I hope I've understood this. Vietnam currently 3rd on goals scored between the three tied teams in question. H2H is terrible!
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Ludicrous that was not a second yellow.
Pulling back in when he’s clean through
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So the game isn't on a 10 channel TV in Aus? But you can access 10 play via the app on the smart TV, right?
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+xSo the game isn't on a 10 channel TV in Aus? But you can access 10 play via the app on the smart TV, right? Yes that's it. Why they don't promote this match more we don't know
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51' | Trevor Morgan turns to the bench for a triple substitution:  Badolato, Yull, Drew  Segecic, Lopane, Raphael
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Vietnam level so it's
Vietnam 7
Australia 6
Iran 4
Don't want to play host Uzbekistan although the stadium and atmosphere is mint.
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+xVietnam level so it's Vietnam 7 Australia 6 Iran 4 Don't want to play host Uzbekistan although the stadium and atmosphere is mint. It's on 1am our time unfortunately
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+x+xVietnam level so it's Vietnam 7 Australia 6 Iran 4 Don't want to play host Uzbekistan although the stadium and atmosphere is mint. It's on 1am our time unfortunately Weekend at least. Was just checking myself as I've got a long Friday
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+x+x+xVietnam level so it's Vietnam 7 Australia 6 Iran 4 Don't want to play host Uzbekistan although the stadium and atmosphere is mint. It's on 1am our time unfortunately Weekend at least. Was just checking myself as I've got a long Friday Iran scored!!
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I don't think I've ever seen an Australian dribble around a keeper on the national stage. Onwards and upwards
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+xI don't think I've ever seen an Australian dribble around a keeper on the national stage. Onwards and upwards Remember his name
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Some of the passing and skill has been incredible
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5:1 Get in! Yet...If Iran win 3:1 I think we might be out on H2H by goals scored by the 3 tied teams in question? - Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
- Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
- Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams;
- If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams;
- Goal difference in all group matches;
- Goals scored in all group matches;
- Penalty shoot-out if only two teams were tied and they met in the last round of the group;
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Poppa needs confidence
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Still don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated?
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+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? So stupid why don't they just use goal difference
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+x+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? So stupid why don't they just use goal difference not really. no excuses for not beating vietnam. now we pay the penalty by finishing second.
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+x+x+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? So stupid why don't they just use goal difference not really. no excuses for not beating vietnam. now we pay the penalty by finishing second. No real penalty, we have to win next game either way to qualify for Under 20s World cup. This is a good team, lets hope they can do it.
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+x+x+x+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? So stupid why don't they just use goal difference not really. no excuses for not beating vietnam. now we pay the penalty by finishing second. No real penalty, we have to win next game either way to qualify for Under 20s World cup. This is a good team, lets hope they can do it. There is a penalty, and a major one at that. We now play the tournament favourites and home nation in front of a packed stadium of 32000, rather than a less imposing opponent like Indonesia or Iraq in an empty stadium. When winning or losing the next match determines whether we qualify for the u20 WC or not, we now have a massive, massive task ahead of us. Lets hope after this recent win we're not overconfident and cocky
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+x+x+x+x+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? So stupid why don't they just use goal difference not really. no excuses for not beating vietnam. now we pay the penalty by finishing second. No real penalty, we have to win next game either way to qualify for Under 20s World cup. This is a good team, lets hope they can do it. There is a penalty, and a major one at that. We now play the tournament favourites and home nation in front of a packed stadium of 32000, rather than a less imposing opponent like Indonesia or Iraq in an empty stadium. When winning or losing the next match determines whether we qualify for the u20 WC or not, we now have a massive, massive task ahead of us. Lets hope after this recent win we're not overconfident and cocky Yes they are the home team. But you telling me the the Ubeks are the favourites for this tournament? If so, there will be no overconfidence will there. We could have played Iraq, who lost 1 nil to the Ubeks & the Ubeks only drew with Indonesia.
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+xStill don't understand it. My hunch is Iran win 3:1 giving superior GD and outright first which then leaves us against Vietnam and we're 3rd due to H2H? Yet where would our H2H against Iran be validated? Football Australia reporting that we have progressed from Group B and are one win from qualifying for the U20 world cup.
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My God we battered them. So table says Iran Plus 1. Australia 0 and minus 1 for Vietnam GD.
So the Vietnam H2H against us is waived as we all beat each other once and GD is the next tiebreaker.
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Wasn't watching but reading Goodwin scored and created hell. Maybe he's just better against a tired defence? I've heard he has lethal instinct in front of goal.
Also, wtf is the aspire academy doing to serve up that?
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So we've finished second. Fuck H2H!
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A 9-1 belting of Qatar. I didn't see the whole game but we looked like we were fitter and in much better condition than they were. We were strong winning duels and carved them on the break with our passing.
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You can see the large technical improvements that Australia has made in the last 10 years or so because the amount of talent coming through even at under 20 is very encouraging.
When we joined the AFC were one of the weakest in terms of technique and touch I say its the polar opposite now and they can easily can match it with the best in the confederation on that front.
In terms of the games they are playing alot better than they were in the first game which is encouraging also, they seemed to have found a right balance in midfield as well I know he hasn't been in the mentioned in the same lines as others but Donnell has played very well as the No.6, not only has sound ball winning capabilities but has the ability to progress the ball forward the third goal was all down to him.
Also they are creating better goal scoring even on general play which they couldn't do against a stubborn Vietnam but also look dangerous in counter attacks too, it shows the benefit of playing more games together.
Uzbekistan will be a hard game given they are the host nation and plus its a sudden death game too so they will try and frustrate Australia, however I dont get why they finished second when they have a better head to head on wins and on goal difference than Iran its also quite a common theme around the world to read teams on goal scored and wins so this is quite strange from the AFC.
Either way now, 1 game to win to qualify for the u20 World Cup!
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+xYou can see the large technical improvements that Australia has made in the last 10 years or so because the amount of talent coming through even at under 20 is very encouraging. When we joined the AFC were one of the weakest in terms of technique and touch I say its the polar opposite now and they can easily can match it with the best in the confederation on that front. In terms of the games they are playing alot better than they were in the first game which is encouraging also, they seemed to have found a right balance in midfield as well I know he hasn't been in the mentioned in the same lines as others but Donnell has played very well as the No.6, not only has sound ball winning capabilities but has the ability to progress the ball forward the third goal was all down to him. Also they are creating better goal scoring even on general play which they couldn't do against a stubborn Vietnam but also look dangerous in counter attacks too, it shows the benefit of playing more games together. Uzbekistan will be a hard game given they are the host nation and plus its a sudden death game too so they will try and frustrate Australia, however I dont get why they finished second when they have a better head to head on wins and on goal difference than Iran its also quite a common theme around the world to read teams on goal scored and wins so this is quite strange from the AFC. Either way now, 1 game to win to qualify for the u20 World Cup! Uzbekistan group currently on. I think Uzbekistan will be 1st regardless on H2H
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Biggest AUS wins in #AFCU20/19 Championships:W9-1 #AUSvQAT 2023 group stage W4-1 v Yemen 2010 group stage W3-0 v Iran 2010 group stage W3-0 v Jordan 2012 quarter final #YoungSocceroos overall record now P33 W16-D9-L8
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Donnell looked fantastic at defensive midfield. It’s a shame Perth don’t play him more often.
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Qatar were the pot 1 seed for our group....
We get to play at the wonderful Milliy stadium in Tashkent against the host nation. Holds 34k and they've had over 32k for their group games so this will be an epic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hflgcRGLpGoHighlights. We play Uzbekistan at 3pm CET so 1am AEST Sunday. A win and it's off the the world cup. So want to make this.
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Got to be careful as we've had players like Buhagiar, Gameiro and Dylan Ryan look good at youth level and never come through for the national team but it's an exciting bunch. I just want to qualify and hopefully we could call up Mo Toure who is back and scoring in France. I personally would like Garang Kuol to be picked if we make it.
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Good stuff.
Does anyone else hate the term "go ahead goal"?
Never heard it till the last couple years. Feels very American
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+xGood stuff. Does anyone else hate the term "go ahead goal"? Never heard it till the last couple years. Feels very American i think theres a team in south africa with that name too!
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+x+xGood stuff. Does anyone else hate the term "go ahead goal"? Never heard it till the last couple years. Feels very American i think theres a team in south africa with that name too! aha oh god
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+x+x+xGood stuff. Does anyone else hate the term "go ahead goal"? Never heard it till the last couple years. Feels very American i think theres a team in south africa with that name too! aha oh god There are the Go Ahead Eagles in the Eredivise in the Netherlands. Adam Sarota played for them but they were in the 2nd division when he did so.
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+x+x+x+xGood stuff. Does anyone else hate the term "go ahead goal"? Never heard it till the last couple years. Feels very American i think theres a team in south africa with that name too! aha oh god There are the Go Ahead Eagles in the Eredivise in the Netherlands. Adam Sarota played for them but they were in the 2nd division when he did so. Adam Sarota has just been appointed to the board of Tafe Queensland,btw. Announced this weekend.
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Didn't realise bernardo was fit now. Haven't seen him for a while!
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+xDidn't realise bernardo was fit now. Haven't seen him for a while! He will get match fit with the under 20s and then come back all ready to play for us.
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+x+xDidn't realise bernardo was fit now. Haven't seen him for a while! He will get match fit with the under 20s and then come back all ready to play for us. Awesome. We will need more options in the back end of the season
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Holy cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!!
Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal
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+xHoly cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!! Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal From my understanding, the club has been trying to get Raphael over for a couple of transfer windows. How good would it be to see both of them playing together in red? :)
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+x+xHoly cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!! Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal From my understanding, the club has been trying to get Raphael over for a couple of transfer windows. How good would it be to see both of them playing together in red? :) Interesting. Well we all know one thing - he would play more here.
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+xHoly cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!! Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal Check this pic. https://www.facebook.com/aleagues/posts/pfbid0x5HoFzbGyAb6rCUVTJk7p7ZHeyMgeT15Bhq1AjhVvuBASPm5dV9GuCHyNYytA2yKl
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+xHoly cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!! Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal They were both outstanding last night.
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+x+xHoly cow I didn't relaise that Rodriguez(sp?)kid was Christiano's son!! Pretty cool seeing Cassio and Christiano's sons combining for the goal They were both outstanding last night. We just need to get Rech's son to play for us now ha ha
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So if Vietnam had scored one goal, it would've seen them level with Australia on GD.
Does the H2H result come into play there or must they go onward to goals scored, i.e next tie breaker? It would've been 3 goals each then. After that it was total GD (sanity)
As they used GD to rank 3 teams who'd beaten one of the other, I wonder whether they would've reverted back to the original H2H for the hypothetical Australia Vietnam GD tie or if that's not allowed because H2H has already been 'used' to break all three teams up.
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+xSo if Vietnam had scored one goal, it would've seen them level with Australia on GD. Does the H2H result come into play there or must they go onward to goals scored, i.e next tie breaker? It would've been 3 goals each then. After that it was total GD (sanity) As they used GD to rank 3 teams who'd beaten one of the other, I wonder whether they would've reverted back to the original H2H for the hypothetical Australia Vietnam GD tie or if that's not allowed because H2H has already been 'used' to break all three teams up. The process is listed on the wiki site. They go back to H2H between the two teams.
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+x+xSo if Vietnam had scored one goal, it would've seen them level with Australia on GD. Does the H2H result come into play there or must they go onward to goals scored, i.e next tie breaker? It would've been 3 goals each then. After that it was total GD (sanity) As they used GD to rank 3 teams who'd beaten one of the other, I wonder whether they would've reverted back to the original H2H for the hypothetical Australia Vietnam GD tie or if that's not allowed because H2H has already been 'used' to break all three teams up. The process is listed on the wiki site. They go back to H2H between the two teams. Ah yes there it is in point 4. H2H has some merit but 1 goal isn't necessarily a reflection of a game.
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How many of you are planning to watch the whole match at 1:00 am?
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+xHow many of you are planning to watch the whole match at 1:00 am? Hopefully can access a replay on ten play and check it out Sunday morning
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+x+xHow many of you are planning to watch the whole match at 1:00 am? Hopefully can access a replay on ten play and check it out Sunday morning pretty sure there are no replays. it's live or nothing.
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They are usually up within an hour.
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+xHow many of you are planning to watch the whole match at 1:00 am? I’m 100% staying up and watching this. Its significance is huge.
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I might stay up its a long weekend in Melbourne. Good to know there is a replay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhf-4PE6GDYChina Kyrgyzstan 1:1. China advance and this team looks fairly switched on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAYGI5iBpygJapan 2 Saudi Arabia 1
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Reminder match is on tonight
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It's going to be a massive affair in that excellent modern stadium. They'll hit capacity at 34k I reckon.
It'll feel like those Saudi away games and hopefully we can be concentrated and score to silence the crowd.
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Please get to Indonesia lads! This bunch will hopefully get us there and will deservedly be selected for the tournament. Yet there are some others who could join in and be a real boost. Irankunda among others and I'd have to do my research. A proper CB so Rawlins can play at rb
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⏰ FT | 🇮🇷 IR Iran 0⃣-1⃣ Iraq 🇮🇶
Ali Jasim's late goal sends the Lions of Mesopotamia through to the semi-finals and the FIFA U20 World Cup Indonesia 2023 👏
#AFCU20 | #IRNvIRQ
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2003-2006 born
Warhawsky(Niuwenhuzen/Hall/Pavlesic) Rawlins(Madanha) - Triantis(Majekodunmi) - Circati(Donnell) - Chipperfield(Dench/Forde) Bozinovski(Yull/Girwood-Reich) - Robertson(Lopane/Badolato) Rodrigues(Hammond/Dukuly) - Volpato(Segecic/Simmons) - Irankunda(Oliveira/Drew) Kuol(Toure/Goodwin/Popovic) I know I’ve missed quite a few, can’t think of them off the top of my head
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Would appear we've named our best performing 11 for this. Can't argue with any choices. Go for it!
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Drew maybe
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Goalless at HT. Uzbekistan with better chances but Australia growing into game.
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Straya utterly woeful. The skills, technique, passing accuracy absolutely appalling. If this is our future we are fxcked
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Can we get that right fullback off the pitch before he turns the ball over again please?
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Point blank chance for Australia blocked.
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Uzbekistan swift through and shoot wide. Massive chance.
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Get in!! 1:0 Australia off a corner. Headed down and Popovic runs through to put it in. Is there VAR? Felt maybe he was just off but we'll take it.
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1:1. Ffs. Led for 2min
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Uzbeks look far more likely to score. We can’t string more than two passes together without misdirected pass or cheap turnover.
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Extra Time hurts more at 3am 😓
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Extra time we go. Uzbekistan have been closer to the goal and are bouyed on by a big home crowd. Australia have shown intent and definitely win their battles on occasion. A tight game. This playing group at least seems much more switched on than the previous ones.
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Hmmm. Australian shot parried. Follow through sees keepers hand hit his boot and he goes down
Goal kick given. I don't know. We tried to milk it in think but certainly risky by keeper to reach at it.
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+xHmmm. Australian shot parried. Follow through sees keepers hand hit his boot and he goes down Goal kick given. I don't know. We tried to milk it in think but certainly risky by keeper to reach at it. Probably a penalty there if Var was available 😞
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We've been outplayed and outclassed and we don't look like we're on their level. But I'm hoping it's the impressive and very boisterous home crowd mostly responsible for that.
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+xWe've been outplayed and outclassed and we don't look like we're on their level. But I'm hoping it's the impressive and very boisterous home crowd mostly responsible for that. Uzbekistan are famous for being good at youth level. Our players have beaten their man numerous times too. It feels like a 9 round boxing match and yes, we'd lose on a decision. Thankfully we showed a lot of good play in the group stage.
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Penalties we go! Come on boys! Sure Uzbekistan are good but I'm pretty happy how we've stood up. Previous generations have given up earlier. Lotto now
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Uzbekistan win 5:4 on penalties. Segecic hit the bar with the 5th and they converted. Gutted. A great experience for this playing group but missing this world cup sucks big time.
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Lost 5-4 in the shootout. Uzbeks better. Like all Australian teams at all levels our first touch, ability to retain the ball under pressure and creativity in the final third is appalling. Until we can improve on those areas we will continue to stagnate.
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+xLost 5-4 in the shootout. Uzbeks better. Like all Australian teams at all levels our first touch, ability to retain the ball under pressure and creativity in the final third is appalling. Until we can improve on those areas we will continue to stagnate. One way is to change the visa rules. No team can 3 forwards as visa players The following could be used Visa 1 foward Visa 2 Midfielder Visa 3 Defender Visa 4 can be FW, MF or DF Visa 5 can be FW if visa 4 is FW etc And one player on the field must be u23 at all times.
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+xLost 5-4 in the shootout. Uzbeks better. Like all Australian teams at all levels our first touch, ability to retain the ball under pressure and creativity in the final third is appalling. Until we can improve on those areas we will continue to stagnate. You clearly didn’t see the games in this tournament properly with that kind of garbage you just posted!
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So disappointed. I just feel this bunch drove forward a lot more than past teams. Yes, there was a lack of end product and we need to fix it.
These payers also need more and more club minutes.
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I had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match.
Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds.
In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half.
This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition.
Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession.
This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions.
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+xI had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match. Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds. In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half. This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition. Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession. This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions. That’s a very reactionary response given they lost by a single kick…come on. They didn’t deserve that ending.
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+x+xI had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match. Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds. In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half. This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition. Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession. This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions. That’s a very reactionary response given they lost by a single kick…come on. They didn’t deserve that ending. I think its a pretty balanced reaction. At the end of the we only have ourselves to blame.
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+x+x+xI had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match. Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds. In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half. This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition. Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession. This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions. That’s a very reactionary response given they lost by a single kick…come on. They didn’t deserve that ending. I think its a pretty balanced reaction. At the end of the we only have ourselves to blame. Would you say the same thing if Australia went through like that instead of Uzbekistan? For me all the details mean nothing if you get through a penalty shoot. Both teams had chances but made mistakes as well but this is part of football especially at that level when they are still developing. Anyway its a very harsh way to lose a football game like that especially with a World Cup spot on the line and would have deserved to qualify as well if Australia had some luck with the penalty kicks.
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+x+x+x+xI had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match. Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds. In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half. This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition. Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession. This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions. That’s a very reactionary response given they lost by a single kick…come on. They didn’t deserve that ending. I think its a pretty balanced reaction. At the end of the we only have ourselves to blame. Would you say the same thing if Australia went through like that instead of Uzbekistan? For me all the details mean nothing if you get through a penalty shoot. Both teams had chances but made mistakes as well but this is part of football especially at that level when they are still developing. Anyway its a very harsh way to lose a football game like that especially with a World Cup spot on the line and would have deserved to qualify as well if Australia had some luck with the penalty kicks. I would have said the exact same thing absolutely, the game had zero control. There were times watching the Iran, Qatar games where I thought the same thing. Helter Skelter football and no one could do anything about it, no one put their foot on the ball, and we couldn't control the game properly, and play on our terms. It just comes down to the environment, lack of preparation, team work and game-time which i cited in my initial post. Whilst we can say they are still developing and make excuses for not qualifying for these major tournaments its another set back for these players to expose themselves on the world stage, i know they are good players individually. My annoyance comes from a good place, but seriously we need to begin to make things easier for ourselves to improve.
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+x+x+x+x+xI had lots of thoughts whilst half asleep watching this shambles of a match. Obviously always a difficult match against Uzbekistan at this level, add to that the home ground advantage and huge support. Would've been difficult for any senior National team let alone a group of 18-20 year olds. In saying that, what a shambolic performance that was by our boys, not once did we look threatening as a system going forward, crossing was horrible, and I think Popovic didn't help with that, by not really being in good enough attacking positions. Obviously I think a lot of blame should be on Morgan for his selections and subs, because it was glaringly obvious that the game was being lost in midfield, yet Donnell visibly fatigued played the full game. It was screaming out for Yull to come on and control the game. I counted 4 passes in succession where Donnell passed it straight to Uzbekistan or resulted in a direct turn-over late into the second half. This game required some leadership, someone to hold the ball, and get in the faces of the opposition. Other individuals were not quite at it, I thought Segecic was actually off the pace considering his recent performances, and Bernardo was invisible, Forde was out of position a little, and Badolato was too careless in and out of possession. This is not to take away that this tournament was actually a mini success considering our woeful performances for the last decade at this tournament, and the fact most of these guys haven't played football for the last 6 months and still got that close... just a huge disappointment that the WC was in our grasp and we let it slip due to some odd tactics and substitutions. That’s a very reactionary response given they lost by a single kick…come on. They didn’t deserve that ending. I think its a pretty balanced reaction. At the end of the we only have ourselves to blame. Would you say the same thing if Australia went through like that instead of Uzbekistan? For me all the details mean nothing if you get through a penalty shoot. Both teams had chances but made mistakes as well but this is part of football especially at that level when they are still developing. Anyway its a very harsh way to lose a football game like that especially with a World Cup spot on the line and would have deserved to qualify as well if Australia had some luck with the penalty kicks. I would have said the exact same thing absolutely, the game had zero control. There were times watching the Iran, Qatar games where I thought the same thing. Helter Skelter football and no one could do anything about it, no one put their foot on the ball, and we couldn't control the game properly, and play on our terms. It just comes down to the environment, lack of preparation, team work and game-time which i cited in my initial post. Whilst we can say they are still developing and make excuses for not qualifying for these major tournaments its another set back for these players to expose themselves on the world stage, i know they are good players individually. My annoyance comes from a good place, but seriously we need to begin to make things easier for ourselves to improve. Those are fair points, the problem is we see that in the aleague as well which is why as entertaining as it is it’s quite an transitional league and lack of control makes it hard for it to slow down at times which is why teams struggle to adapt in Asia including clubs teams in the ACL when the game at times is more slower. I said in a previous post after the Vietnam game that maybe the coaching curriculum needs an overhaul too but what happens at club land usually reflects on the type of players and teams that represent on an international stage.
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the Uzkbeks acted like they won the tournament... it shows how good we are... if u have watched these last few u20s tournaments... this team has been by far the most promising... but we seem to always get fkd by Asian refs. These smaller nations are starting lift when they play us.
But fuck me how many horrible ref calls have cost us underage world cups? Need to at least make a formal complaint this time. The u20 WC is biggest shop window behind the Olympics and WC.
Chuck Kuol and Irankunda in there and we score more goals.
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What a devastating ending for the young lads, to lose like that via on penalties is heartbreaking.
We can talk what could have been done better, but that could easily be said about both teams after all this is under 20 level and they still developing at this level but overall they showed a lot of promise and will nicely add extra depth which should be a very talented under 23 Olympic team.
It’s also a shame we would not see a full strength team play as well given the talent that’s overseas and here in Australia as well.
Plenty of talent which is very exciting for the future but to lose in that manner via a single kick is very difficult to take there was also a stone wall penalty which Segecic should have got as well which I can’t get over why it wasn’t given otherwise why the referee didn’t give Segecic a yellow card? Baffling, clearly home town call decision.
Either way I still can’t get over that we finished second in the group via a stupid H2H rule…this is so cruel and one of hardest results to take in other national team football in many years in that manner.
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I wonder what the reaction would have been if we didn’t beat Peru via the penalty shootout? It’s such a sliding doors moment when you go and don’t go through that way.
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Is u20 consistently our weakest age group?
u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing
at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach
Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup
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+xIs u20 consistently our weakest age group? u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup To be fair this under 20 team went very close to qualifying as well, maybe preparation and more games especially senior football? Unless there are more Adelaide United’s and CCM’s out there willing to give talented under 20 players a go of course which is sadly isn’t the norm.
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+x+xIs u20 consistently our weakest age group? u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup To be fair this under 20 team went very close to qualifying as well, maybe preparation and more games especially senior football? Unless there are more Adelaide United’s and CCM’s out there willing to give talented under 20 players a go of course which is sadly isn’t the norm. Yeah the u20s arent far away despite a lack of game time. They could also play irakunda and kuol. The nsd should push them over the edge
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+x+x+xIs u20 consistently our weakest age group? u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup To be fair this under 20 team went very close to qualifying as well, maybe preparation and more games especially senior football? Unless there are more Adelaide United’s and CCM’s out there willing to give talented under 20 players a go of course which is sadly isn’t the norm. Yeah the u20s arent far away despite a lack of game time. They could also play irakunda and kuol. The nsd should push them over the edge At least the Olympic team should be strong which is already building impressive depth across the park.
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grazorblade
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+x+x+x+xIs u20 consistently our weakest age group? u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup To be fair this under 20 team went very close to qualifying as well, maybe preparation and more games especially senior football? Unless there are more Adelaide United’s and CCM’s out there willing to give talented under 20 players a go of course which is sadly isn’t the norm. Yeah the u20s arent far away despite a lack of game time. They could also play irakunda and kuol. The nsd should push them over the edge At least the Olympic team should be strong which is already building impressive depth across the park. yeah the next olympics we could finally get out of the group
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+x+x+xIs u20 consistently our weakest age group? u17 are benefitting from the ntc, u23 seems to be benefitting from the a league. Both cohorts are behind where we want them but they are qualifying for the wc and competing at u20 we havent qualified since we paid a fortune for a professional youth coach Very few players in this cohort get regular a league time and are too good for the npl and struggling to get into the a league. Im hoping the nsd helps this age cohort as soon as the next asian cup To be fair this under 20 team went very close to qualifying as well, maybe preparation and more games especially senior football? Unless there are more Adelaide United’s and CCM’s out there willing to give talented under 20 players a go of course which is sadly isn’t the norm. Yeah the u20s arent far away despite a lack of game time. They could also play irakunda and kuol. The nsd should push them over the edge Swap in those two for Popovic and you get a different result (not just because we would have 12 on the park aha)
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Once again, yet another failure.
Losing to the Uzbeks was somewhat inevitable. Losing to Vietnam was unforgivable.
We still haven't come very far. We still have players who lack the skill to beat quality opponents. We're still disorganised in defence.
heads should roll
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+xOnce again, yet another failure. Losing to the Uzbeks was somewhat inevitable. Losing to Vietnam was unforgivable. We still haven't come very far. We still have players who lack the skill to beat quality opponents. We're still disorganised in defence. heads should roll We werent organised against the Uzbeks. They could've easily scored 3-4 goals. The amount of cheap turnovers and misdirected passes was at times comical. There was a period of about 10-15 minutes in the second half our pass completion must have dropped to 50%, passes were spraying all over over the shop. Our central midfielders were garbage, though Lopane and Segicic did alright as attacking midfielders. The subs who came on did alright, and we regained some control and composure when they came on. I'm not sure who the right wing sub was who came on, Rodrigues or something? But whoever came on, how refreshing it was to see someone with the balls to dribble at defenders.
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+xOnce again, yet another failure. Losing to the Uzbeks was somewhat inevitable. Losing to Vietnam was unforgivable. We still haven't come very far. We still have players who lack the skill to beat quality opponents. We're still disorganised in defence. heads should roll Your posts are so deluded.
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⏰ AET FT | 🇮🇶 Iraq 2️⃣-2️⃣ Japan 🇯🇵 (5️⃣-3️⃣ pens.)
👊 Jubilation for the five-time champions as they overcome Japan to reach the Final for the first time since 2012!
#AFCU20 | #IRQvJPN
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⏰ AET: 🇺🇿 Uzbekistan 0️⃣-0️⃣ Korea Republic 🇰🇷 (3️⃣-1️⃣ on pens)
The dreamy run continues as the hosts are through to the final. They will face Iraq on March 18!
#AFCU20 | #UZBvKOR
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+x⏰ AET: 🇺🇿 Uzbekistan 0️⃣-0️⃣ Korea Republic 🇰🇷 (3️⃣-1️⃣ on pens) The dreamy run continues as the hosts are through to the final. They will face Iraq on March 18! #AFCU20 | #UZBvKOR So Uzbekistan beat South Korea on penalties as well? Show how tough they are at home when they play in front of those fans. Also Iraq beat Japan as well, no wonder its getting harder to qualify for these youth world cups when the competition in Asia is getting more difficult. We have continue to invest in these youth team programs because its alot harder from what it was a decade ago. However we get a promising generation coming through.
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🚨 FT | 🇺🇿 Uzbekistan 1️⃣ - 0️⃣ Iraq 🇮🇶
𝚃𝙷𝙸𝚂 𝙸𝚂 𝚆𝙷𝙰𝚃 𝙳𝚁𝙴𝙰𝙼𝚂 𝙰𝚁𝙴 𝙼𝙰𝙳𝙴 𝙾𝙵!
An excellent effort by the host nation who won the continental title with grit and determination 🌟🙌🏼
#AFCU20 | #UZBvIRQ
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We end the tournament as the only team to score against uzbekistan
Next tournament should be the first tournament where there are two leagues to give players game time
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+xWe end the tournament as the only team to score against uzbekistan Next tournament should be the first tournament where there are two leagues to give players game time And another tournament where we got beaten by the champion team like our Socceroos experienced against Argentina last year.
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