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Bloody Hell Now we've got Mikey quoting Mono quoting Mikey https://x.com/smfcmike/status/1801754148343554423
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2 months away then. Fair enough
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+xthink it better we keep any NST Club news in 1 thread for as we know some are not up to speed on SM info and all........barring their own insta accounts etc. Some focus more on their Jnrs than Snrs. Some threads would be dorment. Probably one day after we hear more progress news or confirmed start we open a new NST 2025 thread as a suggestion. Fair enough but I reackon there are few dormant Syd Croatia, APIA, Marconi, Wolves, Preston and Syd Olympic fans that lurk around here, maybe sometimes posting.. Would be good to hear what they know from their clubs
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think it better we keep any NST Club news in 1 thread for as we know some are not up to speed on SM info and all........barring their own insta accounts etc. Some focus more on their Jnrs than Snrs. Some threads would be dorment. Probably one day after we hear more progress news or confirmed start we open a new NST 2025 thread as a suggestion.
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Meanwhile, Some more positive news from at least ONE of the 8 :) https://x.com/smfc/status/1801437956907143251?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet"South Melbourne FC is pleased to announce that as part of its preparations for the National Second Tier commencement in 2025, we have appointed David Clarkson as our Head of Community Football Programs.Welcome home, Clarko!" Looks like we're getting the band back together ..... More appointments to come, Ill keep you posted on the South thread as I hear them :) P.S Maybe someone can make official threads for the other Championship teams... would love to hear from anyone else about their clubs.
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+x+x+x+x+xoh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch. Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... let’s see what happens. Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news. Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha Get some of your mates together and get some memberships sold at APIA mate .... C'mon Chich we need to get this over the line :) I’m hoping Tony raciti will come through big here. I’m fkn nervous now Hope so too.
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+x+x+x+xoh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch. Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... let’s see what happens. Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news. Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha Get some of your mates together and get some memberships sold at APIA mate .... C'mon Chich we need to get this over the line :) I’m hoping Tony raciti will come through big here. I’m fkn nervous now
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+x+x+xoh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch. Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... let’s see what happens. Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news. Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha Get some of your mates together and get some memberships sold at APIA mate .... C'mon Chich we need to get this over the line :)
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+x+xoh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch. Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... let’s see what happens. Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news. Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha
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+xStreaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl Good job whoever pulled that off Would have to be 10Play
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+xStreaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl Good job whoever pulled that off I recall a major sponser and broadcast partners were committed sometime ago. I know whats mentioned could be opposite but I just got to have faith what JJ/FA are up to.....and the Clubs doing the right thing business wise and inline with FA. As long as they both hang in work together the hope is there. MCleansheets its setting higher boundaries of complaince for operations ahead, not every Club has the suitable facilites, backing etcetc - if only it was that plain and simple as yesteryear.
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Streaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl
Good job whoever pulled that off
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I seriously don't see what the problem is re pro/rel in the NSD.
Why can't the NPL comps simply include a bye if someone comes down but no-one goes up from that state?
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+xoh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch. Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... lets see what happens.
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oh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........ 20 friggin yrs ! Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch.
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+x+xI heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised.... FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... This is a bit of a tricky one. I bet it's a heck of a lot easier to shore up sponsors if you could tell the sponsors things like when the league will be played, which states/cities will be participating, how many games will there be, will it be broadcast and on what networks/platforms, etc. All this is hidden behind NDA and sponsors are well aware of what is happening, which is why South and Preston (from what I hear) have had no trouble getting quite a few new sponsors on board for next year... I know nothing about Avondale (although conjecture is that they are relying on the one benevolant godfather to fund the whole passion project... at least while he is still interested) I was told we would have had an announcement last week, but the latest rumblings from a certain club are causing friction between the 8 "originals" and surprise surprise it is forming along state lines...... FA is keen to announce their new media deal AND the new league together but the bloody "effniks" are at it again.... hahahahahah This thing will kick off in one way or another next March... I just hope it is worth the 20 year wait. Up until last week I have been assured... (could all be bullshit, Im just a dude on the internet ... without a sport specific FA Scientific BPO coaching qualification) 2 more clubs have signed on the dotted line... waiting on financial assurances to clear. 2 other clubs are umming and ahhinng but have verbally agreed to go ahead, broadcast partners are aligned with FA new broadcast deal but distribution to clubs is basically peanuts. (contra agreements for marketing the league and some help with travel/accommodations is what I hear) March 2025 kickoff is a 100% go ahead 3 states for sure possibly 4 will be represented in the first year. Major league sponsor is keen and has kicked up a decent amount of both prize money and marketing budget. FA has already allocated staff and resources behind it. As per Mike, the trademark has been granted for "Australian Championship" as of 7th June. https://x.com/smfcmike/status/1800441261838721502?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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+xI heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised.... FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... This is a bit of a tricky one. I bet it's a heck of a lot easier to shore up sponsors if you could tell the sponsors things like when the league will be played, which states/cities will be participating, how many games will there be, will it be broadcast and on what networks/platforms, etc.
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+xI heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised.... FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... FFS. This is why FA need to aim for at least 12 clubs because some will drop off and can't be relied upon. Gotta have at least 8 clubs to get this off the ground. Having one club in SA, Tasmania, Queensland/Gold Coast, ACT would have to better for getting sponsors behind one club per town (where have I heard that before haha!). Five clubs in NSW is scraping things a bit thin.
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I heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised.... FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action....
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yep agreed the more the merrier as long as they comply. Maltese old Club, made it into the NSL for a number of years - I see Markovski/Foster/Muscat/Nabbout had stuints with them young.
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+xRumours that sunshine George cross will be one of the next clubs added to the championship next season. Not sure how true this is just something I heard. I know little of their history but glad if there are more teams
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Rumours that sunshine George cross will be one of the next clubs added to the championship next season. Not sure how true this is just something I heard.
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+xSome Aus Cup discussion inspired me again on the NST therefore re APIA being a fav of mine as most know here. Raciti is very well know up here obviously, they'll seriously need to consider building a statue of him in front of Lambert one day imo, yep over 45yrs in the Club and Prez. This was released last month fyi..... https://www.soccerscene.com.au/apia-leichhardt-fc-70-years-on-still-counting/The history give me goosebumps, Club DNA.. Love that !! Great man el presidente
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Some Aus Cup discussion inspired me again on the NST therefore re APIA being a fav of mine as most know here. Raciti is very well know up here obviously, they'll seriously need to consider building a statue of him in front of Lambert one day imo, yep over 45yrs in the Club and Prez. This was released last month fyi..... https://www.soccerscene.com.au/apia-leichhardt-fc-70-years-on-still-counting/The history give me goosebumps, Club DNA..
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Having tentative promotion and relegation spots in nothing new. As long as it's known before the season starts, it's not that hard. Ideally you always want the premiers being automatically promoted, and a second club promoted from playoffs. So you'll always need two clubs being relegated, with a third "tentative" relegation slot dependent on an NST club getting relegated. And then it just flows down the tiers in the same way. If you want to be guaranteed safety, don't finish third last or lower!
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+x+x+x+x* Last place in the NST is relegated back to their state NPL, with that state relegating one extra team to maintain league numbers across the tiers. So the NPL League plays without knowing what you need to Survive whilst another League dictates ? "3rd bottom survives, maybe, we'll let you know after the season has ended" Can happen. You know you need to finish one extra position than the confirmed relegation spots to absolutely confirm survival. and the league below that ? and the league below that ? No doubt there's an answer, but let's hear it please JJ thats the big trillion $ question, where is more from JJ and the rest. They must be talking and talking who knows, bloody well hope so for all of us. You may or may not know last season NSW NPL went to 16 Club comps or was this season lol I can't recall. IF I recall right we used to have PL4, that has been changed, no more. I think 3 went up each level - to 1 then 2 then 3 - no PL4. Obviously no merit for the 2/3rd Clubs from 2/3 eh. Just so they got 16 in each level expanding for more games. Some Clubs may have barked etcetc, and the Clubs that were once below PL4 didn't earn the right to be promoted above the level they once were. All I see it that its just aligning the Levels more appropiate to work with more numbers/Clubs each division. Its an adjustment but it plays out in the end.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAre there any updates on who the added teams will be?Surely they have to announce them soon. Or any major sponsor for the new league ? last nights game got me pumped for next year hahaha I think they will want to wait until the OS teams have returned home and the ALM GF is out of the way and possibly also the Matildas and Socceroo early June matches. That way any interest that is piqued from the annoucemnets for those not totally aware of what is going on with their clubs can entice them back to both their normal NPL games as well as Australia Cup games. I think the Queensland Pyramid Issue is the hold up. Doubt there'll be anything concrete until it's sorted out one way or the other. 2 or 3 clubs application seems to depend on it What is the Queensland Pyramid Issue ? QLD has put in their competition regulations that if a team goes up to the NST, and is subsequently relegated, that they will have to begin at the bottom of the QPL pyramid (which on my research for my 'getting all club logos project' shows that means QPL6 (7th tier of Queensland) in terms of clubs based specifically in Brisbane. QPL4 in Sunshine Coast, and QPL 3 elsewhere in South East Queensland I don't believe they have 'put it in their regulations' as such, they haven't done something to spite anyone Maybe not, but they also don't seem to be too receptive to any changes to rectify the situation. They're sticking to their actual rules, why should they change them and how do they go about it ? Note also that none of the starting members have earnt their place in the NST on the Pitch The regulation cannot be clearer, we have 7 divisions of a connected advanced football pyramid in Queensland, 12 teams in each, 2 promoted, 2 relegated each season, replicated across three connected conferences, frankly something that should be celebrated in Australia.
Any club who progresses from the top of the pyramid (NPL) to the NSD will be celebrated for their success.
Any club who departed the NPL, who find themselves relegated back in the years to come will be welcomed with open arms and in the hope they may achieve success once more.
That is fundamentally how a football pyramid works, that is the very essence of how and why football is celebrated the world over.
It is how the 7 divisions of clubs in Qld demand it to be, as it is they who are battling each other each week to climb, progress, create their football stories and aspirational journeys into and from the NPL.
There are serious and unresolvable integrity implications for any other scenario to be accommodated, permitted or considered.
Unfortunately, the lack of regulatory comprehension more broadly, means conveying a fulsome understanding of this issue will remain unlikely and only give rise to more MF smear from those seeking to create their own protection racket. https://x.com/RobCavallucci/status/1731605441808126147 Are we missing the part about WHERE the clubs would be relegated to? Some common sense would be welcomed. As we know, these clubs haven't earned their way into the NST by winning anything. And that just shouldn't matter. It's taken decades to get to this point of getting an NST off the ground, and only clubs that can afford to do it have put their hands up (and in their pockets). If we waited for the winning clubs from all federations to also be the wealthier clubs that could afford to go up, we would be waiting longer than the Japanese 100 year plan! The NST just HAS to commence with clubs from anywhere, and any division, that can afford it. So what does it mean for relegation? While it's understandable that we can't have clubs shortcutting their way up the pyramid, this is also a unique opportunity an age in the making. Not having the NST will just do more harm than good as the decades pass by. These clubs shouldn't be punished for helping to make it a reality. Should the clubs be relegated to the bottom tier, to the tier they came from, or to the division below? I would set it up that these inaugural (12) clubs will be exempt from being relegated beyond the tier below (e.g Preston goes to NPL). But any of the future expansion clubs get relegated whence they came (I think FA will still hand pick the clubs up to 16). Being relegated to the bottom of the pyramid is stupidity and will only destroy clubs and the federations reputation. I mean... to me it sounds like QLD is ok with their NPL winners going into the NSD. Just not a lower table, or divisions below going into it (and then getting relegated and finding themselves into the NPL. Let them be relegated properly and don't be stupid dicks about it. Yep, sounds easy doesn't it Now riddle me this How does NPLQ make room for that relegated team ? By only promoting one club the following year So the NPLQ will have 13 teams for the following Season ? 14 if the one club drops from NST. Sorry, you've lost me. The Seasons run at the same time, how does your plan work ? Dude its not MY plan.... I dont have answers to your questions, just a feeling that this needs to be played for a full season before we can even begin to fathom how the fark to promote/relegate from it.... I want it all (like you I presume) tomorrow but this is Australia, "we unique" remember? Sorry, thought it was your plan  Was just wondering where your 14th Team comes from ?  hahaha . If NPL QLD has 14 clubs and only one is promoted to it from league below (instead of two) when/if a QLD NST is relegated that makes 14 teams... thats all I as trying to point out....
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+x+x+x+x* Last place in the NST is relegated back to their state NPL, with that state relegating one extra team to maintain league numbers across the tiers. So the NPL League plays without knowing what you need to Survive whilst another League dictates ? "3rd bottom survives, maybe, we'll let you know after the season has ended" Can happen. You know you need to finish one extra position than the confirmed relegation spots to absolutely confirm survival. and the league below that ? and the league below that ? No doubt there's an answer, but let's hear it please JJ Well these are the types of questions that should be asked and clarified and put together by the FA and the 8 connected Member Feds. There's nothing wrong with having an odd amount of teams in a tier. Eg, one of the QPL 3 tiers only has 7 clubs this season (Darling Downs), and there is a State League 1 and State League 5 tier in Victoria each with 11 clubs. Simple as having something in the competition regulations for each state along the lines of: "If a team from this member federation is relegated from the National Second Division at the end of this season, the promotion/relegation between leagues is as such: [Outline of altered structure] In all other instances, this is the promotion/relegation structure between each league [outline state's P/R structure]"
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