NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation

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Bloody Hell

Now we've got Mikey quoting Mono quoting Mikey

https://x.com/smfcmike/status/1801754148343554423

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2 months away then. Fair enough
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LFC. - 14 Jun 2024 5:03 PM
think it better we keep any NST Club news in 1 thread for as we know some are not up to speed on SM info and all........barring their own insta accounts etc.
Some focus more on their Jnrs than Snrs.
Some threads would be dorment.
Probably one day after we hear more progress news or confirmed start we open a new NST 2025 thread as a suggestion.

Fair enough but I reackon there are few dormant Syd Croatia, APIA, Marconi, Wolves, Preston and Syd Olympic fans that lurk around here, maybe sometimes posting.. Would be good to hear what they know from their clubs
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think it better we keep any NST Club news in 1 thread for as we know some are not up to speed on SM info and all........barring their own insta accounts etc.
Some focus more on their Jnrs than Snrs.
Some threads would be dorment.
Probably one day after we hear more progress news or confirmed start we open a new NST 2025 thread as a suggestion.


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Meanwhile, Some more positive news from at least ONE of the 8 :)

https://x.com/smfc/status/1801437956907143251?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

"South Melbourne FC is pleased to announce that as part of its preparations for the National Second Tier commencement in 2025, we have appointed David Clarkson as our Head of Community Football Programs.Welcome home, Clarko!"

Looks like we're getting the band back together ..... More appointments to come, Ill keep you posted on the South thread as I hear them :)

P.S Maybe someone can make official threads for the other Championship teams... would love to hear from anyone else about their clubs. 
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Totti10 - 14 Jun 2024 12:29 PM
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I’m hoping Tony raciti will come through big here. I’m fkn nervous now 

Hope so too.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Jun 2024 10:07 AM
Totti10 - 13 Jun 2024 9:20 PM

Get some of your mates together and get some memberships sold at APIA mate .... C'mon Chich we need to get this over the line :)

I’m hoping Tony raciti will come through big here. I’m fkn nervous now 
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Totti10 - 13 Jun 2024 9:20 PM
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Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news.
Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha

Get some of your mates together and get some memberships sold at APIA mate .... C'mon Chich we need to get this over the line :)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 13 Jun 2024 1:56 PM
LFC. - 13 Jun 2024 1:34 PM

Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah

Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... let’s see what happens. 

Thanks for all your updates mate. Keep it coming haha I’m dying to hear some good news.
Let’s hope this bullshit gets sorted between the Sydney clubs. As always it’s is causing problems hahahaha bloody wogs hahaha
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grazorblade - 13 Jun 2024 3:22 PM
Streaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl

Good job whoever pulled that off

Would have to be 10Play

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grazorblade - 13 Jun 2024 3:22 PM
Streaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl

Good job whoever pulled that off

I recall a major sponser and broadcast partners were committed sometime ago.
I know whats mentioned could be opposite but I just got to have faith what JJ/FA are up to.....and the Clubs doing the right thing business wise and inline with FA.
As long as they both hang in work together the hope is there.

MCleansheets its setting higher boundaries of complaince for operations ahead, not every Club has the suitable facilites, backing etcetc - if only it was that plain and simple as yesteryear.


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Streaming an sponsorship deals are more than ì expected. Was expecting it to just be on youtube the first season like the npl

Good job whoever pulled that off
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I seriously don't see what the problem is re pro/rel in the NSD.

Why can't the NPL comps simply include a bye if someone comes down but no-one goes up from that state?
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LFC. - 13 Jun 2024 1:34 PM
oh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........
20 friggin yrs !
Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch.

Hahaha my ONLY AGENDA is making sure that after I die South Melbourne Hellas remains OCEANIA CLUB OF THE CENTURY for the next century as well. hahahahahahahahah

Anyway, yeah what did you expect when a bunch of ego driven clubs get together... The good news is that FA really, really, really want this to go ahead and to work.... All focus is on this now apparently at head office... lets see what happens. 
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oh christ mate this is sitting on the edge of the cliff stuff eh for us all........
20 friggin yrs !
Some interesting intel mate and I do admire all your wonderful credentials LOL, you need to start putting all those qualifications abbreviated at the bottom of your posts hahaha don't forget add in Agenda might I say lol....christ I'm being a bi atch.


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someguyjc - 13 Jun 2024 11:52 AM
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This is a bit of a tricky one. I bet it's a heck of a lot easier to shore up sponsors if you could tell the sponsors things like when the league will be played, which states/cities will be participating, how many games will there be, will it be broadcast and on what networks/platforms, etc.

All this is hidden behind NDA and sponsors are well aware of what is happening, which is why South and Preston (from what I hear) have had no trouble getting quite a few new sponsors on board for next year... I know nothing about Avondale (although conjecture is that they are relying on the one benevolant godfather to fund the whole passion project... at least while he is still interested)
I was told we would have had an announcement last week, but the latest rumblings from a certain club are causing friction between the 8 "originals" and surprise surprise it is forming along state lines...... FA is keen to announce their new media deal AND the new league together but the bloody "effniks" are at it again.... hahahahahah

This thing will kick off in one way or another next March... I just hope it is worth the 20 year wait.

Up until last week I have been assured... (could all be bullshit, Im just a dude on the internet ... without a sport specific FA Scientific BPO coaching qualification)
2 more clubs have signed on the dotted line... waiting on financial assurances to clear.
2 other clubs are umming and ahhinng but have verbally agreed to go ahead,
broadcast partners are aligned with FA new broadcast deal but distribution to clubs is basically peanuts. (contra agreements for marketing the league and some help with travel/accommodations is what I hear)
March 2025 kickoff is a 100% go ahead
3 states for sure possibly 4 will be represented in the first year.
Major league sponsor is keen and has kicked up a decent amount of both prize money and marketing budget.
FA has already allocated staff and resources behind it.
As per Mike, the trademark has been granted for "Australian Championship" as of 7th June.
https://x.com/smfcmike/status/1800441261838721502?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


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Monoethnic Social Club - 13 Jun 2024 9:21 AM
I heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised....  FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... 

This is a bit of a tricky one. I bet it's a heck of a lot easier to shore up sponsors if you could tell the sponsors things like when the league will be played, which states/cities will be participating, how many games will there be, will it be broadcast and on what networks/platforms, etc.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 13 Jun 2024 9:21 AM
I heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised....  FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... 

FFS. This is why FA need to aim for at least 12 clubs because some will drop off and can't be relied upon. Gotta have at least 8 clubs to get this off the ground. Having one club in SA, Tasmania, Queensland/Gold Coast, ACT would have to better for getting sponsors behind one club per town (where have I heard that before haha!). Five clubs in NSW is scraping things a bit thin.

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I heard some pretty concerning rumours last night about NSD start date... Two Sydney (self declared football capital of Australia) clubs are not yet ready for 2025 kickoff and are pushing to delay the launch till 2026 to raise funds as sponsorships hoped for have not yet materialised....  FA is sticking to its guns as contracts have been signed for broadcast and commercial partners.. They better put a team on the park in March 2025 or they face legal action.... 
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Sunshine Coast out apparently.

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yep agreed the more the merrier as long as they comply.
Maltese old Club, made it into the NSL for a number of years - I see Markovski/Foster/Muscat/Nabbout had stuints with them young.


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Totti10 - 31 May 2024 4:48 PM
Rumours that sunshine George cross will be one of the next clubs added to the championship next season. Not sure how true this is just something I heard. 

I know little of their history but glad if there are more teams
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Rumours that sunshine George cross will be one of the next clubs added to the championship next season. Not sure how true this is just something I heard. 
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LFC. - 28 May 2024 1:48 PM
Some Aus Cup discussion inspired me again on the NST therefore re APIA being a fav of mine as most know here.
Raciti is very well know up here obviously, they'll seriously need to consider building a statue of him in front of Lambert one day imo, yep over 45yrs in the Club and Prez.
This was released last month fyi.....
https://www.soccerscene.com.au/apia-leichhardt-fc-70-years-on-still-counting/
The history give me goosebumps, Club DNA..

Love that !! Great man el presidente 
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Some Aus Cup discussion inspired me again on the NST therefore re APIA being a fav of mine as most know here.
Raciti is very well know up here obviously, they'll seriously need to consider building a statue of him in front of Lambert one day imo, yep over 45yrs in the Club and Prez.
This was released last month fyi.....
https://www.soccerscene.com.au/apia-leichhardt-fc-70-years-on-still-counting/
The history give me goosebumps, Club DNA..


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Having tentative promotion and relegation spots in nothing new. As long as it's known before the season starts, it's not that hard.
Ideally you always want the premiers being automatically promoted, and a second club promoted from playoffs. So you'll always need two clubs being relegated, with a third "tentative" relegation slot dependent on an NST club getting relegated. And then it just flows down the tiers in the same way. If you want to be guaranteed safety, don't finish third last or lower!

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numklpkgulftumch - 24 May 2024 1:20 PM
NicCarBel - 24 May 2024 1:06 PM

and the league below that ? and the league below that ?  

No doubt there's an answer, but let's hear it please JJ



thats the big trillion $ question, where is more from JJ and the rest.
They must be talking and talking who knows, bloody well hope so for all of us.

You may or may not know last season NSW NPL went to 16 Club comps or was this season lol I can't recall.
IF I recall right we used to have PL4, that has been changed, no more.
I think 3 went up each level - to 1 then 2 then 3 - no PL4.
Obviously no merit for the 2/3rd Clubs from 2/3 eh.
Just so they got 16 in each level expanding for more games.

Some Clubs may have barked etcetc, and the Clubs that were once below PL4 didn't earn the right to be promoted above the level they once were.

All I see it that its just aligning the Levels more appropiate to work with more numbers/Clubs each division.
Its an adjustment but it plays out in the end.


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numklpkgulftumch - 24 May 2024 1:41 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 24 May 2024 1:31 PM

Sorry, thought it was your plan



Was just wondering where your 14th Team comes from ?


hahaha . If NPL QLD has 14 clubs and only one is promoted to it from league below (instead of two) when/if a QLD NST is relegated that makes 14 teams... thats all I as trying to point out....  
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numklpkgulftumch - 24 May 2024 1:20 PM
NicCarBel - 24 May 2024 1:06 PM

and the league below that ? and the league below that ?  

No doubt there's an answer, but let's hear it please JJ



Well these are the types of questions that should be asked and clarified and put together by the FA and the 8 connected Member Feds.

There's nothing wrong with having an odd amount of teams in a tier. Eg, one of the QPL 3 tiers only has 7 clubs this season (Darling Downs), and there is a State League 1 and State League 5 tier in Victoria each with 11 clubs.

Simple as having something in the competition regulations for each state along the lines of:

"If a team from this member federation is relegated from the National Second Division at the end of this season, the promotion/relegation between leagues is as such: [Outline of altered structure]
In all other instances, this is the promotion/relegation structure between each league [outline state's P/R structure]"


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