NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation

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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:59 PM
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Just realised that if you look at the indexing constituents on the trademark page, it lists the words 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
Although this is a bit of an unfortunate coincidence as these are in reference to the to the symbol form itself, I still find it amusing as there are no two better words to sum up football in Australia than 'divided' and 'incomplete'.

‘Twas ever thus.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM


Just realised that if you look at the indexing constituents on the trademark page, it lists the words 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
Although this is a bit of an unfortunate coincidence as these are in reference to the to the symbol form itself, I still find it amusing as there are no two better words to sum up football in Australia than 'divided' and 'incomplete'.
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simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM
hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

Curious, what would be an example of a more traditional name?

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libelous - 23 Apr 2024 3:44 PM
simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM

What is your suggestion.

A2

or A League 2.

The EPL should never have changed from the old Div 1, 2, 3, 4. When someone says 'Football League one' I have to scroll back through my memory to go is that the 3rd tier or 2nd? No wait it's the third or is it?


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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 3:14 PM
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I reckon the FA have got this name right.
Going for A2 League or B-League or something along those lines would have been a huge mistake.
Most football people already associate the word 'championship' with 2nd division because of England.
Using the already existing 3-ribbon logo keeps things consistent but also saves a heck of a lot of money by avoiding a full blown branding exercise.
NPL clubs won't even need to change their kit's too much. Literally just replace the words 'national premier leagues' with 'The Australian Championship'.

It looks like FA don’t want anything connecting the league to the A League.
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simione001 - 23 Apr 2024 3:42 PM
hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

What is your suggestion.
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hate the name. how about something original or more traditional rather than blatantly copying the championship in england.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Apr 2024 3:02 PM
In contrasting colours on the sleeve would look mint :)


I reckon the FA have got this name right.
Going for A2 League or B-League or something along those lines would have been a huge mistake.
Most football people already associate the word 'championship' with 2nd division because of England.
Using the already existing 3-ribbon logo keeps things consistent but also saves a heck of a lot of money by avoiding a full blown branding exercise.
NPL clubs won't even need to change their kit's too much. Literally just replace the words 'national premier leagues' with 'The Australian Championship'.
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In contrasting colours on the sleeve would look mint :)
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Football Australia have also registered the domain name www.australianchampionship.com.au
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someguyjc - 23 Apr 2024 2:30 PM
Well, we can be almost certain the NST will be called The Australian Championship.
https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2443020?s=7a42a39e-37d9-4380-a9e4-dcec3bc0757b&sortBy=-ID

Trademark filed a week ago.

:) 

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numklpkgulftumch - 15 Apr 2024 10:34 AMnumklpkgulftumch - 15 Apr 2024 10:32 AM
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No way the name will stay secret that long
Hahah thanks for the timer. You're right we'll hear a few things later this week, early next I predict,
Ill try and suss out the name for ya, early gossip is Australian Championship .... BTW the sponsor (if true) will blow your mind :)


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Well, we can be almost certain the NST will be called The Australian Championship.
https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2443020?s=7a42a39e-37d9-4380-a9e4-dcec3bc0757b&sortBy=-ID

Trademark filed a week ago.
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bohemia - 8 Feb 2024 7:21 PM
Bit of a media fluff piece for a sponsor, but: Adelaide city still talking NST, albeit appears they were originally out of the running due to finances. At least they're not in the never pile.

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/adelaide-city-fc-boosted-by-major-sponsorship-with-chemist-warehouse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Big sponsor for Juve.... nice.
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bohemia - 8 Feb 2024 7:21 PM
Bit of a media fluff piece for a sponsor, but: Adelaide city still talking NST, albeit appears they were originally out of the running due to finances. At least they're not in the never pile.

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/adelaide-city-fc-boosted-by-major-sponsorship-with-chemist-warehouse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I think there are many clubs both NSL and A League who are looking closely at the National League as they try to see the way forward.
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Bit of a media fluff piece for a sponsor, but: Adelaide city still talking NST, albeit appears they were originally out of the running due to finances. At least they're not in the never pile.

https://www.soccerscene.com.au/adelaide-city-fc-boosted-by-major-sponsorship-with-chemist-warehouse/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Jan 2024 3:35 PM
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a Knights supporter that likes the sound of their own voice ... "well I never" lol

Yep, they definitely have a type.
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someguyjc - 16 Jan 2024 11:04 AM
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Nope, nothing of any real substance. I've heard Knights are fully expecting to be there for season 1 and are in the final stages with FA. However I heard that from someone who mostly just likes there sound of their own voice so no idea how much validity there is there.

a Knights supporter that likes the sound of their own voice ... "well I never" lol
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Jan 2024 10:24 AM
So,,, now a little over 14 months till kick off, anyone had any news about clubs 9-12? Anything?

I think it was Nick Galatas (but I can't find it) who said the applications would be entertained in the New Year

I don't know if it starts from the EOI or straight to RFP. (George Cross never entered the EOI stage)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 16 Jan 2024 10:24 AM
So,,, now a little over 14 months till kick off, anyone had any news about clubs 9-12? Anything?

Nope, nothing of any real substance. I've heard Knights are fully expecting to be there for season 1 and are in the final stages with FA. However I heard that from someone who mostly just likes there sound of their own voice so no idea how much validity there is there.
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So,,, now a little over 14 months till kick off, anyone had any news about clubs 9-12? Anything?
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someguyjc - 4 Dec 2023 5:15 PM

So they have no solution to their venue issue, yet somehow got given the green light?
They have a bunch of options, but none of them are very good.
New Maribyrnong stadium would be nice, but that won't happen before 2025 and as mentioned in the article, not exactly an easy one to get over the line with the council.
Sharing with WU, is kinda weird. Not a club you'd want to be associated with, even if it's just a ground sharing arrangement. Might be fine as a temp solution assuming the Maribyrnong venue gets council approval. 
Merging with Brunswick Juventus. Not sure how well that sits with the fans of either club. 

They've had to have something in place otherwise their inclusion doesn't add up... Im guessing its either Tarneit ground or CB Smith ??????
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thekingmb - 4 Dec 2023 5:16 PM

If any existing club/potential new club  has the $$$ matched with ambition let them in.

Some bare minimum requirements need to be met though, access to a ground suitable to the level being played at should be one of those at least. I thought the club licensing agreement would have had some sort of requirement that needs to be met?
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someguyjc - 4 Dec 2023 5:15 PM


Sharing with WU, is kinda weird. Not a club you'd want to be associated with, even if it's just a ground sharing arrangement. 

If it's the Tarneit training ground, that's a Council owned facilty that they can hire, like anyone.  And there's little overlap in Season.
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someguyjc - 4 Dec 2023 5:15 PM

So they have no solution to their venue issue, yet somehow got given the green light?

Sounds like they do have a solution otherwise they wouldn't have got accepted, it just hasn't been made public.


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If any existing club/potential new club  has the $$$ matched with ambition let them in.

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So they have no solution to their venue issue, yet somehow got given the green light?
They have a bunch of options, but none of them are very good.
New Maribyrnong stadium would be nice, but that won't happen before 2025 and as mentioned in the article, not exactly an easy one to get over the line with the council.
Sharing with WU, is kinda weird. Not a club you'd want to be associated with, even if it's just a ground sharing arrangement. Might be fine as a temp solution assuming the Maribyrnong venue gets council approval. 
Merging with Brunswick Juventus. Not sure how well that sits with the fans of either club. 
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grazorblade - 1 Dec 2023 11:29 PM
So haarling started in the norwegian 2nd division, kagawa played three seasons in the j2 league

what other big players started in 2nd divisions (excluding brazil, arg, england, italy, france, germany and spain given their second teirs are better than most countries first)

A fairly high percentage of current big 5 league players got their senior debuts in 2nd and 3rd division clubs around the world before being signed at an early age to top tier clubs mate.... 
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So haarling started in the norwegian 2nd division, kagawa played three seasons in the j2 league

what other big players started in 2nd divisions (excluding brazil, arg, england, italy, france, germany and spain given their second teirs are better than most countries first)
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it hasn’t saved the league though - if I recall right 5yrs pre covid free ticks didn’t even help.
The casuals and more didn’t care - even so called iron on supporters left in droves, much like NSL once the league staggered and lost its plot.
You could say even they AL didnt learn from previous mistakes for they knew better and most supporters weren’t the so called bitters but the new dawners following a brand for its obvious the love really isn’t there but a fad for many.



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