or maybe not

Good for him
Bad for Lennon

Maybe now ex client? 

It kind of does matter though. Attendances revenue drops off dramatically when a team is losing, as does sponsorship revenue.  No-one likes to lose money.

Saw an argument on a US sports show... was undeliverablely funny as the EPL was compared to NFL [gridiron in the US] the host kept trying to stop the Football person.... 

The Central Coast Mariners can announce the departure of club legend and current A-League Men’s Head Coach Nick Montgomery to take up the role of Head Coach at Hibernian FC in the Scottish Premiership.

Assistant Coach Sergio Raimundo and Goalkeeper Coach Miguel Miranda will also depart the club.

Thank you for everything and farewell 💛💙

Full story 👉 https://bit.ly/44URtmE

#CCMFC #BeOurMate

He has just been officially unveiled as Hibs new manager. He will need a lot of luck with them.

Australia Cup is much much more aligned with the FA Cup, not so much the English League Cup.
To me, it's essentially as pointless as the finals in Australia: a competition to give a trophy that makes not much sense at all (except for a trophy and a continental spot, as Mono alluded to).

Of course, I'd rather no finals than finals, but it makes more sense to have it in the top-flight of Australia, than as an example I have lol'd at all week, NPL lower divisions having finals, when the Premiers have already earned promotion...

One thing the English League Cup has over the finals though, that you have also mentioned LFC, is that at least the clubs get the revenue for the matches

Reminds me of when I was arguing with a Seppo about their stupid medical system and he told me that the government paying for everyone's health was pure communism.

So I replied, your government is paying for your armed forces, is that pure communism too?

The spasming of his face as he framed a retort was priceless.

I pointed out to a client that the AFL is the ultimate expression of communism ... he lost his everloving shit at me it was glorious, hahahahahahahahah

Told me "Soccer is a commie pinko sport" and when I pointed out it was the ultimate expression of aspiration capitalism .... live the dream, accumulate wealth to accumulate success he was NOT happy.. hahahahahah

Agian, thats what I said mate, I agree with you.

At the elite level , i can assure you it does not compute with the majority by a mile. Maybe at junior level.
Most clubs (Rugby and Aussie rules ) would simply fold and die if relegated. Folk aren't really interested in semi pro sport in this country.

Oh yes ofcourse and that’s my point still - they have P&R still and games that count for something whereas it’s a Mickey Mouse show having finals and worse an uneven comp rounds.
It makes no sense and nothing to lose see ya back next season same stations same bat time.

Your are right in EVERYTHING bar this 

"Promotion and relegation does not compute in the mind of Australians"

It has been a feature of non-top tier football of all codes at some form or another for years upon years. 

Lots of leagues have a form of "playoffs" at the end of the regular season paisan.... Sometimes its to determine continental placement, others to determine final standings... Some even have finals....  Problem isnt this, its the lack of fairness that NOT playing each team the same amount of times for ALL clubs brings... 

yer nah not apples with apples comparo.
Its comp comparing comp nothing about cups.
As for Carabao it does serve a purpose to the countless lesser and lower Clubs gaining some revenue even though the press talk it down due to the EPL Clubs having so many fixtures to play and the $$$'s involved chasing Top 4/CL and Europa spots + the FA Cup its talked down and like our Oz Cup most NPL clubs love being in it for the exposure and competition..........

Again sorry off topic, be rapted for Monty going to a 148yr old Club.
Too funny re ex SFC's ALF playing up front comments
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/11194657/hibs-nick-montgomery-price-celtic-rangers-central-coast/

Why do you think the league cup is pointless ?

I agree to a point, but don't think that finals itself are that much of an issue. Sure, that's probably to Aussie DNA etc, but, I guess it's similar to finding the Carabao Cup in England pointless, as one example

NCB this is the thing.......
What league (top division) has play off final series after the Prem rounds are dusted and the winner is the King ! and the bottom 2 or 3 are demoted depending the league.
This is the problem here....
Its/here follows the unique 2 main codes that the football journeymen (yes many of you) here have been indoctrinated following the other codes since in the pram.
We have NO P/R therefore being we have the closed comp lets introduce the so called aussie dna of nrl/gayfl finals and the GF winner is King. (yer good on them)
I get play off's for the next level down like in the EFL and the likes.
Top 2 are promoted automatically there's a play off series for the 3rd and the knock off effects below.

WTF we got this pigeon holed competition that people accept peeez me off but it is what it is.

Back for Monty, go man go, Hibs despite the negatives re finances etcetc at least your in football world unlike the bs here.

I don't see a problem with finals tbh.

But it would be great to see finals in the lower divisions turned into promotion play-offs..
I guess they normally do a top-4, so 1st gets promoted automatically (last gets relegated automatically), and either:

• 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th (same format as top 4 finals usually are) playoff for promotion.
• 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 2nd last from the league being promoted to playoff. '2nd last' needs to win the playoff to stay up, otherwise the winner is promoted in their place.

That is the elite model for all the football codes in Australia unfortunately. The thing is , that they know no better and accept this as normal. They really don’t like being compared to other countries, fact ! Everything needs a grand final apparently and half the league involved in play offs. Promotion and relegation does not compute in the mind of Australians. Someone prove me wrong.

Yep. Lots of Time is so vital for good recruitment- and without lots of money that celtic - and to lesser extent Rangers - have. He did it with tiny budget at Mariners so interesting to see if it works at Hibs

While it is not ideal - it is also being overstated a fair bit. 11 players of the Grand final day squad remain, 10 of which played on the day. 16 of last season's squad remain and 3 others are returning.

The biggest loss by far will be Monty and Serge. 

$100,000 AUD

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nick-montgomery-hibs-compensation-fee-30871202

Compensation is 50k pounds by all accounts. Fuck all. I'd rather have Monty.

If he takes the job he'll have to cope with the fact that there is no window to build his type of squad until January.

Hiding to nothing, but if they give him time he'll turn Hibs into genuine contenders.

Agree,  Its one thing to not have a fair match schedule with some teams played twice and others 3 times in a season but this whole rinse and repeat every year must be so disheartening for the players.

"Bottom line is, he could sell the whole squad, start again next year and finish bottom, doesn't matter."

or maybe it still needs extra help



https://t.co/nEDJF41ZX2

Cringe

Monty certainly looks like he has

Piel looks like he's sold everyone he's had an offer for. 
Saying yes to an offer isn't hard.
Whether he got the best price would be his measure.

Bottom line is, he could sell the whole squad, start again next year and finish bottom, doesn't matter.

Taking a youth team, adding 286 games to their CV's and selling the one's that improved is a Business Model that looks like it's maybe paid off this year
Maybe all 12 teams should just do that every year.

They are his own KPIs - not imposed, From all accounts he seems to be meeting 2 of 3 and approaching the 3rd.