Goodwin leaving Adelaide rant


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https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/star-socceroo-set-to-leave-adelaide-united/

Fuck me I think it's fair to say we've been through a lot as Australian football fans but this has pushed me over.

How do you let this happen? It's not even an Adelaide issue mariners lost Cummings and Perth lost Williams. 

What's the point of following if clubs can't even retain their players. You might think I'm city fan who gives a toss. It devalues the league it's not exciting and it's not fun to follow. This is on the APL and all the clubs. Huge mistake imo 
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Saudi window has shut
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 12:50 PM
https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/star-socceroo-set-to-leave-adelaide-united/

Fuck me I think it's fair to say we've been through a lot as Australian football fans but this has pushed me over.

How do you let this happen? It's not even an Adelaide issue mariners lost Cummings and Perth lost Williams. 

What's the point of following if clubs can't even retain their players. You might think I'm city fan who gives a toss. It devalues the league it's not exciting and it's not fun to follow. This is on the APL and all the clubs. Huge mistake imo 

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2.5 million per year for three years .... with very low taxes.... kinda means set up for life after Football... 
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Midfielder - 8 Sep 2023 1:00 PM
2.5 million per year for three years .... with very low taxes.... kinda means set up for life after Football... 

Fantastic for Craig 

What about the club 

The league 

The fans 

800k transfer fee is peanuts 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 1:35 PM
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Fantastic for Craig 

What about the club 

The league 

The fans 

800k transfer fee is peanuts 

Not for an AL club it isn't. Those types of fees aren't falling out of the sky every day.
Absolutely it sucks for the fans, especially the Reds fans. Goodwin was a pleasure to watch last season. I bet if the Reds could match the offer they would, but it's way too much.
You have to accept our position for what it is. We are a poor tiny little league in a giant global football economy.
Support your club first. Players are always going to come and go. Good players are always going to go when a good offer is on the table. It's nice when they stick around, but the majority are going to move on.


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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 1:35 PM
Midfielder - 8 Sep 2023 1:00 PM

Fantastic for Craig 

What about the club 

The league 

The fans 

800k transfer fee is peanuts 

Don't be disheartened mate. It is, after all, 299 million dollars less than what Mo Salah passed up to join the sand pit games. 

Now Adelaide will have $800k Plus a $50K BMW in the budget to spend on a "marquee" :)

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Criminal if Adelaide didn't engage the APL and reach into the marquee bucket to match the offer. Absolute icon of the league
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Understand Adelaide United captain & Socceroos hero Craig Goodwin has played his last game for the Reds, signing for former side Al Wehda FC in the Saudi Pro League. Transfer fee believed to be worth over $1,000,000. More info 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 2:52 PM


@joshmoney__
Understand Adelaide United captain & Socceroos hero Craig Goodwin has played his last game for the Reds, signing for former side Al Wehda FC in the Saudi Pro League. Transfer fee believed to be worth over $1,000,000. More info 
@9NewsAdel
 

Holy shit, these guys are managed by Donis (ex Greece International and Panathinaikos player) Wow those petro-dollars sweep up everyone.
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Why are we moaning about a 31-year-old in the twilight of his career going to get his final paycheck for his family? 

Where are the next Goodwins? 
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riquelmes_laces - 8 Sep 2023 3:15 PM
Why are we moaning about a 31-year-old in the twilight of his career going to get his final paycheck for his family? 

Where are the next Goodwins? 

Well why watch the a league? Might as well watch the npl or we start earlier and watch the under 11s 

You wanna see socceroo level players in the a league surely? 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 3:25 PM
riquelmes_laces - 8 Sep 2023 3:15 PM

Well why watch the a league? Might as well watch the npl or we start earlier and watch the under 11s 

You wanna see socceroo level players in the a league surely? 

If Socceroos players are ONLY good enough to play in the Alegaue then that is a major worry matey.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 8 Sep 2023 3:27 PM
Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 3:25 PM

If Socceroos players are ONLY good enough to play in the Alegaue then that is a major worry matey.

Nah you know what I mean. We need a mix of socceroos, foreign players and young players. It can't be just young players or old players I dunno I'm getting sick of it maybe I'll just watch badminton 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 3:37 PM
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Nah you know what I mean. We need a mix of socceroos, foreign players and young players. It can't be just young players or old players I dunno I'm getting sick of it maybe I'll just watch badminton 

Dude, your putting the cart before the horse.... You dont need a mix of anything..... Just follow your club and don't worry about what the perceived "quality" of the players is... just hope that it is constantly improving.... and in fairness it is..... Ob-vs I dont watch alot of Aleague but the snippets I see know are 20 x better than what I saw on the park 10 years ago... this is the same at NPL level and at State league level.....  ANY Australian player, at the moment, good enough to command any sort of transfer fee (even if it is to those filthy animals in the desert) is a cause for celebration.... Like JC aludes to above, by the time most of our Socceroos are playing in the EPL and the better overseas leagues, they players playing domestically will be at a much better level and pushing to also make the leap....
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 3:25 PM
riquelmes_laces - 8 Sep 2023 3:15 PM

Well why watch the a league? Might as well watch the npl or we start earlier and watch the under 11s 

You wanna see socceroo level players in the a league surely? 

Nope, I wanna see Socceroo level players in the EPL.
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 3:25 PM
riquelmes_laces - 8 Sep 2023 3:15 PM

Well why watch the a league? Might as well watch the npl or we start earlier and watch the under 11s 

You wanna see socceroo level players in the a league surely? 

I've watched quite a few Socceroos in the NPL2/NYL at CCM. Some are so obvious - others have to work hard to get there.   
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riquelmes_laces - 8 Sep 2023 3:15 PM
Why are we moaning about a 31-year-old in the twilight of his career going to get his final paycheck for his family? 

Where are the next Goodwins? 

Arguably our best player in the league goes for 1m... how much does the next goodwin go for 100k? lol disgusting to let him leave for that.
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jas88 - 8 Sep 2023 8:33 PM
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Arguably our best player in the league goes for 1m... how much does the next goodwin go for 100k? lol disgusting to let him leave for that.

It is all relative - you got to blame the FA 

the Salary cap in the AL is 2.6m - Goodwin will be getting paid essentially what the entire AU squad gets..... 

i agree 800k is peanuts but he is probably got 9mos left on his contract and he is 32 this year what do you expect

From season 8 maybe 10 the Cap should of been scrapped it is clear it does WAY more harm then good - without a cap Goodwin probably would of been on a 2-3 year deal on better money - AU could of easily asked for 4-8million 

this guy scored in the world cup against France - he is no 'spud' he is a technically good, fast player but regardless i wish him well. 

Until this shit changes no one will ever take the AL seriously it is a semi-pro league imo 

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The aleague will continue to struggle to retain its best players into the future as the money overseas is simply too good and unrealistic for clubs here to compete with, we should not be surprised by this.

As long as clubs get compensated properly they can reinvest that money into developing or finding the next Goodwin, Cummings, Tilio etc.

We are just part of a bigger chain in the football world. 

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Barca4Life - 8 Sep 2023 4:50 PM
The aleague will continue to struggle to retain its best players into the future as the money overseas is simply too good and unrealistic for clubs here to compete with, we should not be surprised by this.

As long as clubs get compensated properly they can reinvest that money into developing or finding the next Goodwin, Cummings, Tilio etc.

We are just part of a bigger chain in the football world. 

Or in the case of Sammy Silvera, sell him, get him back, sell him again   
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Confirmed

https://twitter.com/AdelaideUnited/status/1700046334798258234?s=20

Reckons he'll be back again 

LOL
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I feel like i say this every 3mos on here - if you revisit my post about the Saudi league becoming a super league 

MONEY TALKS - EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT 


The SA super league with all the investment being put in it, is probably the best league outside of Europe and South America now and it will only get better. 

the contact is 3 years 2.5m ie 7.5m 

7.5m is enough to set himself up for the remainder of their life (on top of his current wealth) - He also gets a chance to play in a League with Neymar, Ronaldo, Benzema etc - it is a no brainer the 800k fee is the only kicker you would think that AU would of gotten at least >1m for him but the Salary cap hampers clubs ability to get big fees 




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Davstar - 8 Sep 2023 5:31 PM
I feel like i say this every 3mos on here - if you revisit my post about the Saudi league becoming a super league 

MONEY TALKS - EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT 


The SA super league with all the investment being put in it, is probably the best league outside of Europe and South America now and it will only get better. 

the contact is 3 years 2.5m ie 7.5m 

7.5m is enough to set himself up for the remainder of their life (on top of his current wealth) - He also gets a chance to play in a League with Neymar, Ronaldo, Benzema etc - it is a no brainer the 800k fee is the only kicker you would think that AU would of gotten at least >1m for him but the Salary cap hampers clubs ability to get big fees 



I hope he gets tax residency over there, otherwise the ATO will eat up half of that 7.5 mill
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PGR - 8 Sep 2023 7:28 PM
Davstar - 8 Sep 2023 5:31 PM

I hope he gets tax residency over there, otherwise the ATO will eat up half of that 7.5 mill

or he can do what 'most' rich people do 

get a few negative geared properties 

max super contributions or him and his misses

pay into a trust....  

set his contact up to be paid over multiple financial years opposed to being paid 2.5m a season he might negotiate 1m a season over 7 years with the 8th year paying 500k..... 


im sure there are 'other' loopholes but that is just at the top of my head 

people that are 'not' PayG have a lot of ways to reduce taxable income 

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Adelaide have that much talent coming through that the next ones will be playing. Saudi clubs could put their emblem on every Premier League club, play in England with their squads, it still wouldn't be enough. The crest on the front of the shirt will always be bigger than any name on the back.
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The entire league is looking incredibly weak this season.
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West Adelaide Hellas - 8 Sep 2023 6:08 PM
The entire league is looking incredibly weak this season.

Bit like that Covid season when all the local talent came through. I want some good marquees but nothing beats a local story.
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johnszasz - 8 Sep 2023 6:38 PM
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Bit like that Covid season when all the local talent came through. I want some good marquees but nothing beats a local story.

I respect everyone's opinion but it's killed the excitement for me. I wanna see quality players in the a league. We're left with players who are just a phone call away from leaving to India or Saudi it rubs me the wrong way 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 6:45 PM
johnszasz - 8 Sep 2023 6:38 PM

I respect everyone's opinion but it's killed the excitement for me. I wanna see quality players in the a league. We're left with players who are just a phone call away from leaving to India or Saudi it rubs me the wrong way 

Your only concern should be Melbourne City, full stop.

This happens in leagues all over the world, players move on and new ones pop up.Life goes on.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 Sep 2023 7:27 PM
Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 6:45 PM

Your only concern should be Melbourne City, full stop.

This happens in leagues all over the world, players move on and new ones pop up.Life goes on.

Then we shouldn't worry about TV ratings or attendance anymore. Because you can't expect people to be excited about this league 
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Melbcityguy - 10 Sep 2023 8:48 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 8 Sep 2023 7:27 PM

Then we shouldn't worry about TV ratings or attendance anymore. Because you can't expect people to be excited about this league 

People depart teams / leagues all the time, the show goes on as they say. Evolution i think they call it.

Do you really think people in France are saying the same thing after a lot of high profile departures.

TBH , my only concern is Sydney FC and it always will. Could not give a monkey's about other clubs.

One more thing, you are the first person i have EVER encountered that has brought up the the TV ratings. That indeed makes you quite unique.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 10 Sep 2023 11:26 AM
Melbcityguy - 10 Sep 2023 8:48 AM

People depart teams / leagues all the time, the show goes on as they say. Evolution i think they call it.

Do you really think people in France are saying the same thing after a lot of high profile departures.

TBH , my only concern is Sydney FC and it always will. Could not give a monkey's about other clubs.

One more thing, you are the first person i have EVER encountered that has brought up the the TV ratings. That indeed makes you quite unique.

We have a thread for tv ratings and attendance. The league is in the shitter I just want it to be successful. 
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Melbcityguy - 10 Sep 2023 11:49 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 10 Sep 2023 11:26 AM

We have a thread for tv ratings and attendance. The league is in the shitter I just want it to be successful. 

Stop being a drama Queen, the season has yet to start and you are all doom and gloom. No wonder football in this country is always up against it with negative nellies like yourself.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 10 Sep 2023 1:45 PM
Melbcityguy - 10 Sep 2023 11:49 AM

Stop being a drama Queen, the season has yet to start and you are all doom and gloom. No wonder football in this country is always up against it with negative nellies like yourself.

Actually everyone is agreeing with you I'm the minority on this issue 
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Melbcityguy - 8 Sep 2023 6:45 PM
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I respect everyone's opinion but it's killed the excitement for me. I wanna see quality players in the a league. We're left with players who are just a phone call away from leaving to India or Saudi it rubs me the wrong way 

India takes away a lot of deadwood which is appreciated. Saudi is more for the top, end of career cash grab. It's been this way for a decade anyway with other Asian leagues so we should be used to it now.
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West Adelaide Hellas - 8 Sep 2023 6:08 PM
The entire league is looking incredibly weak this season.

Know what you mean. But sill have A Kuol, Irankunda at least 
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It's criminal how a salary cap, ordained by Gallop and co. is still in vogue in the ALeague, restricting players earning capacity, just criminal.
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soccerfoo - 8 Sep 2023 8:30 PM
It's criminal how a salary cap, ordained by Gallop and co. is still in vogue in the ALeague, restricting players earning capacity, just criminal.

Gallop didn't get the job until the competition was well established.  It started along with the League.

Without the cap, right now, today, which arse do you think Adelaide would pull 2.5M to match that offer?s 
Hint:  As a marquee they can pay him 10M a year if they wish without penalty.

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C'est la vie in the world wide football economy.Good luck to Goodwin -he is in in his twilight years as a first class footballer so needs to make hay while the sun shines.The same goes for Cummings going to India .Also Montgomery's proposed move to Hibs-difficult for me as a CCM fan especially with the timing but again an opportunity for him to make his mark in a European league.

Adelaide and CCM will continue as clubs and young players will come through the ranks.If the NSD gets off the ground and functions smoothly more chances for young players and coaches to have a pathway.

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The salary cap removal wont change a thing.
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Barca4Life - 9 Sep 2023 11:25 AM
The salary cap removal wont change a thing.

The clubs with most money would dominate AL with no cap. Melb City especially 😐
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Time to move on, take the cash and market out more Goodwin's to sell. We should be the Portugal of Asia.

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Examples like this stare us in the face time and time again yet we constantly drop the ball when it comes to being a "development league" that should sell young players to overseas clubs for large profit. 



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riquelmes_laces - 9 Sep 2023 9:39 PM
Examples like this stare us in the face time and time again yet we constantly drop the ball when it comes to being a "development league" that should sell young players to overseas clubs for large profit. 



Don't really understand what you're saying? He got sold so we are a development league how did we drop the ball? 
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Get a grip mate. It's Craig Goodwin. Leaving Adelaide is his thing.

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tomw - 11 Sep 2023 9:34 AM
Get a grip mate. It's Craig Goodwin. Leaving Adelaide is his thing.

I'm ok now thx was pretty pissed about it last week 
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*Josh Cavallo doesn’t like this 
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tsf - 11 Sep 2023 9:59 AM
*Josh Cavallo doesn’t like this 

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can't be pissed when a player in his late career makes the call to improve his last chance of income you need to applaud it and Thanks for your service.
Cycle of a pro sportsperson good luck to him, getting a better pay check and rubbing shoulders against some classy euro retirees lol.....
Hope he gets alot of playing time they'll need his good attacking nouse having 13th of 16 last season.
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MSC's relo Grecko Giorgos Donis back for his 2nd stint as gaffa.



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