But, a knowledgeable c*nt, as opposed to you.

Even you know that the A league has seen far better attendances than the PNSL/ NSL ever got.
Even the worst season was better than your best season.

Like I said this has been happening for the last 50 years. The football fans are there but the admin are failing it plus those with agendas.

Being knowledgeable about being a c*nt to people must have gotten you very far in life

P and r in this country will never happen unless there are at least 2 national divisions. The distance, minimum wage laws and competitive sports market make it too big of a gap between a national division and a state division. But you dont get the benefits of p and r unless there is at least some degree of security to justify long term investment. Having 2 divisions provides that security

We are never getting a second division unless the fa is separate from the league. To be honest the nst could remain a closed shop if the fa run it.

The downside of this is it leaves the a league a bit more exposed as the a league has to run a commercially viable operation. Before the fa could dig into its vast pockets of reserve cash from grass roots. However, this meant the grass roots was funding the big end of town.

However, having to run a commercial operation means you have to listen to fans. Why they didnt from day one and wasted money is probably institutional momentum. But even still they only have to run the league well enough for it to not fold. If the league runs well then that is a good thing, if it is run poorly that increases the pressure to link with the pyramid sooner. So win win as long as they arent so bad they fold.

There is so much institutional momentum towards ignoring fans from when fa ran the a league that it has been difficult to change course. But there is still quite a bit of difference between gallops demonizing the fans style response and the apls limp ai generated vague hedging even if it is a mile away from where they need to be. They also reneged on the gf decision and introduced supporter groups that they agreed to meet with. 

As painful as it all is, as long as the league doesnt explode we will be ok

The next TV deal is D day, literally. There is no suggestion in the stats that a broadcaster will want it. 

I am only a c*nt to dickheads like yourself soft boy. I’ve done alright, been round the world a few times, is that far enough ?

as long as it is good enough to keep the lights on then we should be ok

graz, all and good keeping a light on but a flicking one as you know normally needs replacing.
Its not good for the game wholley in the big picture to consumers as a general rule and prospective investors.
Maybe the next deal will be just enough to keep the light on but in this environment today and ahead that isn't promising.

Look what happenned to ARU the last 20yrs and less.
The slide has been massive, national comp diminished long ago, Super Rugby comp has failed, grass roots expenditure declined huge before 2015.
Lost Fox deal and now in the never never land.

Yeah Britain has gone with a less "royal" option hasnt it? hahahahahahahah

Nah dont be like that Trev, we dont know for sure he is from Glasgow... hahahahahah

Old Sutho is OK, just a cranky ol Scotchman... Never met a Scot I didnt immediately get along with, and LOVE to hang shit on.... 

Sutho wont admit it but they ARE "the Greeks of the North"
  

WAS better attended.... its on a bit of a slippery slope now, even you must agree that this is starting to resemble the last days of the NSL now?

Lets hope your "clubs" survive like ours did.

Admin has ALWAYS failed the sport here I 100% agree. And agendas too .... only difference is now the agendas are about foreigners making money, back then it was who was the most successful wog in the country.... 

Lowy didn't understand the soul of Football. He thought it was a matter of dishing up a soup of many colours that tasted all the same, and by which his investors could become rich.

Fortunately, the soul of Football has been lying quietly in the nether lands of the amateur and semi pro clubs. We are seeing it's rebirth. Unless the A League joins it will die a slow death. This is a pity because the likes of CCM have boldly challenged the sameness of Lowy's vision and have forged a reasonable identity and soul in their local area.

Yet none of it helped football in this country.

It's always been the same, no one has understood how to make football great in this country, it's all agendas, nepotism & for themselves & never ever has anyone in power had the foresight to see what is good for football in this country. 

its an interesting and long storey being some of us have been on the sidelines for a lonnnnng time seeing what became and none the wiser but from a sstreet wise perspective for us mere mortals.
This outpost as young as it is has been a kind of policy on the run no matter the subject strangely.
The anglo rule was the so called beginnings challenged today and then the migration really flowed through and more so post WW11.
That influx caused so much angst amongst the anglos the poor ol early wog settlers were victimised as we know wanted to assimulate but had to hang amongst themselves being excluded and in their spare time got into their/our beloved football.
Its was always up a hill without a paddle no matter who ran it, naturally the wogs fended for themselves because how they were treated and the game despised by the locals and media what the feck else were the wogs gonna do, yep close up and fight.
Unfortunately the mud stuck and expected - no funding but from fellow business supporters and ASF somehow did its part but really how else could it ever survive without the wogs digging in the first place.
With so much against them ofcourse agendas were there but at least they built a system as we know it/owned grounds and turned out some pretty handy players.
Admin wise I seriously am not surprised how screwed up it was because noone outside gave them much cred let alone much support hence no one stood up enough but for ones like J Warren as an ex player crying out the obvious.
Hence we get to the next chaptor having the suger daddy Lowy seize the business opportunity to pull the rug from under his fellow migrants due to his business success and close ties with big biz and Howard. Granted good luck to him, sure it was a mess and as mentioned were we surprised but he also was part of it don't forget this for a long time as well.
Therefore we then ended up visa versa eh, great so called admin, (in the end not), corporate sponsers, national media exposure but a generic football game/comp and clubs.

Bugger the rest below they are fodder and will never be needed, yer right where does the games roots come from, suburbia we de people !
How people don't see this blows me actually.
The game is not like a commodity per say, put it on the shelf and buy it - it relys on locals/passion/affordability/today inclusion/a eco system that feeds itself.
Thats the game from ground up that looks to the top.

I don't think its hard to reset this place and obviously alot of pain to get through but this JJ is capable maybe - our stumbling blocks are the past and present, 2 structures cannot work in the best interest of the game I've mentioned this before.
Its the haves and the have nots, where have you heard this before politically.

WSW bounced back well this round with a win, after their 0-7 drubbing by Melb City in the last round.

Mate the fact that both the NSL and Aleagues EXIST(ED) is the only reason we have a national football competiton in this country.

that fact alone makes makes them "help football in this country"  Shit admin and nepotistic leagues is no different than 90% of the rest of the world.... 

There isnt a hell of alot wrong with football here, just need to strengthen the poo of clubs and players and make them strive to be as professional as possible to provide as many playing, admin, coaching opportunities to as many Aussies as we can... all the rest (how much money foreign investors and venture capitalists make) is just bullshit who cares?

Well Foreign investors also happened all around the world including some of the biggest leagues in the world.
I don't really care foreign or local, what upsets me is when they line their own pockets, again this happens in this country in so many ways both local & foreign & few care about football in this country. If you accept shit admin & nepotism, nothing will change. 

Depends on what you want out of "the game" mate.  We COULD be a Croatia or we could be India.... All Im saying is that football's success shouldn't be measured by how much money someone (foreign OR domestic) is making from it..... 

The best for the game in this country. Be a real footballing nation.

What is your definition of a real footballing nation? 

I would say (not trying to bait you) that Portugal definitely is one wouldn't you? Their FA isnt exactly the paragon of financial virtue or respnsibility... Some of the lower club sides are very poorly run yet they have a culture around football that is enviable.... THATS what I mean. 

in a way i kind of like not being a football nation....imagine how nauseating we'd do football if the likes of eddie mcguire, that brayshaw wa nker who does the afl and cricket, or that boofhead who screams during the NRL 

Andy Harper? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrS9OKEtXdU&ab_channel=JAYFCX

incredible 

Haha, So good.

By a footballing nation I mean having a government supporting the sport (which has the highest participants, playing in the biggest sporting events the WCs, Olympics), an unbiased media & treating the sport with respect & not disrespecting it's fans & its culture which will then help them to appeal both Government & Private sponsorship.
Pro/reg is something I have always wanted but in country so big but so sparse, but without the money from those afore mentionsed, it's impossible.

If only this guy was still around we’d be saved 

https://youtu.be/e28b4kePkH4?si=N7hK7qSgUE4uj56C

So apart from Japan can you think of any other countries with your "wish list"? serious question because I cant.