Melbcityguy
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We know the negatives what is something that is done really well that nobody mentions
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+xWe know the negatives what is something that is done really well that nobody mentions good luck on this one mate :)
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NicCarBel
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We do finals pretty good aye
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Balin Trev
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AL ticket prices for non-members are fairly priced?? Yay 😁
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tsf
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when there is fans at the games the atmosphere is pretty good. Been to games all over the world in most major tournaments....it's pretty good here when it's at it's best
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Coverdale
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Maintain professional football league in Australia
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Muz
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Continues to churn out pretty good Matildas.
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bohemia
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What does Australian football do well?
Acquires the target Waits patiently for a shot Holds the gun nice and steady Nice and easy on the trigger Gently, gently, don't snatch at it. aaand Blows its own fucking toes off
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grazorblade
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If you are looking for what we do exceptionally well, as in top ten nations in the world i would say the follpwong
1) average a league crowds are much higher than transfermarkt values would predict. We are actually quite an outlier, tho not as much as the mĺs. I am prepping a post with some data on this. Globally crowd sizes track transfermarkt value closely 2) our national team elo is and has been way higher than you would predict from the number of players getting regular big 5 game time. If you looked at our results you would predict that we have consistently had 6 to 10 players in the big 5 rather than 0 to 2 over the last decade 3) our coaching may not be top ten but i think we might be one of the few coubtries outside europe and south america to produce a coach in the epl? 4) matildas tend to be in the top 10, the a leagues women in probably in the top 10 and probably top ten in crowds and cash. Would need to check 5) we have more bucket men than any other country in the world
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Barca4Life
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Self conflicts and fighting for self interest.
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grazorblade
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I also think we have some of the most loyal fans with all we go through, that applies to a league and nsl fans Unfortunately the fans take it out on the players complaining about the roos and arnie as well as ange before him when they really are doing remarkably well with the cattle available (also the players are doing well too given their abilities)
The reality is, if the fa split from the a leagues like the crawford report sugggested from year 1 we have 2 divisions with p and r by now and we woukd have produced much better players
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Hillbilly55
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How many countries have a dozen fully professional teams that didn't exist 20 years ago? Given how little media coverage we get, that the A League still exists is a positive, and it's pulliing in new fans each year.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+xI also think we have some of the most loyal fans with all we go through, that applies to a league and nsl fansUnfortunately the fans take it out on the players complaining about the roos and arnie as well as ange before him when they really are doing remarkably well with the cattle available (also the players are doing well too given their abilities) The reality is, if the fa split from the a leagues like the crawford report sugggested from year 1 we have 2 divisions with p and r by now and we woukd have produced much better players Not sure you can judge that here mate... Loyalty is tested in the good times AND the bad. When we have clubs relegated to the third tier and retaining their numbers and loyalty then perhaps we can compare with the rest of the world. As it stands the APL clubs know, without a shadow of a doubt, their fan base would disappear overnight of they where ever tested in the crucible of sporting endeavour. It happened to the NSL clubs, who 20 years later are struggling to survive... in this we are unique, definitely NOT loyal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAbmtMv6KKI
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+xHow many countries have a dozen fully professional teams that didn't exist 20 years ago?Given how little media coverage we get, that the A League still exists is a positive, and it's pulliing in new fans each year. The USA, China and India? You know, the football superpowers we should be emulating :P
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+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze:
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Barca4Life
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+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: I should also add defensive to criticism but i’m not sure if that’s a modern society problem anyway lol.
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jas88
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I think we can produce good atmosphere's in games.. Uruguay 05, AC Final 2015.
We just stamp out active support instantly.... see the RBB. If we made a-league games proper events with active support allowed. More people would go.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+xI think we can produce good atmosphere's in games.. Uruguay 05, AC Final 2015. We just stamp out active support instantly.... see the RBB. If we made a-league games proper events with active support allowed. More people would go. Its chicken and egg scenario mate... Young blokes want the type of active support that families and mums wont ever want.... APL wants a sanitised half way house in between which isnt achievable (unless they start with the MLS chansawing logs garbage and Star wars rounds) Whats Australian football does well is alienate the wrong people.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: As usual I disagree with you Robbo (not on purpose I swear:) ) I dont think we have enough self interest in the game... It should be all about the club, above everything else... That would form the sort of rivalry every other country around the world thrives on... When you have people who are "fans of the sport in general but I dont have a team I follow" it sort of kills any chance of building any real connection.... at least in my opinion.
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robbos
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+x+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: As usual I disagree with you Robbo (not on purpose I swear:) ) I dont think we have enough self interest in the game... It should be all about the club, above everything else... That would form the sort of rivalry every other country around the world thrives on... When you have people who are "fans of the sport in general but I dont have a team I follow" it sort of kills any chance of building any real connection.... at least in my opinion. We just see things differently, while I don't disagree about passionate club fans like you are football fans, there are also fans of football. While I love Sydney FC with passion, I also appreciate good football when played against us. If Socceroos ever played Portugal, I would want Jedinak to smash Ronaldo, but I would be able to appreciate how good the Portuguese side & wished we could play like them. I have mates like you (STH Melb fan), really strong Liverpool fans, Liverpool over everything, local football, England, English players, they can't appreciate a player like Bellingham, because he choose not to play for them, they are so blind one eye. They only see the bad calls that goes against them, never see the bad ones go for them, Liverpool only team with injuries, Liverpool only team playing young players. See the difference they are club fans & blinded & they miss so much, whereas I'm a football fan, when I was in Russia watching Socceroos playing France, my wife asked why I was taking photos of all the French players, I said because they were some of the best players in the world.
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Melbcityguy
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+x+xI think we can produce good atmosphere's in games.. Uruguay 05, AC Final 2015. We just stamp out active support instantly.... see the RBB. If we made a-league games proper events with active support allowed. More people would go. Its chicken and egg scenario mate... Young blokes want the type of active support that families and mums wont ever want.... APL wants a sanitised half way house in between which isnt achievable (unless they start with the MLS chansawing logs garbage and Star wars rounds) Whats Australian football does well is alienate the wrong people. Personally I've grown to find the ultra culture extremely cringe. It's good with the banter and that but to many people become dickheads in big groups
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robbos
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+x+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: As usual I disagree with you Robbo (not on purpose I swear:) ) I dont think we have enough self interest in the game... It should be all about the club, above everything else... That would form the sort of rivalry every other country around the world thrives on... When you have people who are "fans of the sport in general but I dont have a team I follow" it sort of kills any chance of building any real connection.... at least in my opinion. This is not stating you are wrong. we just different. If for example the NST is a success & takes over & is the top tier of football & we are getting 30-40K a game & producing Socceroos at the highest levels, I would be willing to see that even if that meant SFC was discarded. I want football to succeed in this country more than my club. But that just me. That's why my sole interest in PL (apart from watching best teams in the world & Liverpool are in top 3 in world IMO) is Ange, I like to see Aussies succeed despite seeing my team Derby wallowing.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: As usual I disagree with you Robbo (not on purpose I swear:) ) I dont think we have enough self interest in the game... It should be all about the club, above everything else... That would form the sort of rivalry every other country around the world thrives on... When you have people who are "fans of the sport in general but I dont have a team I follow" it sort of kills any chance of building any real connection.... at least in my opinion. We just see things differently, while I don't disagree about passionate club fans like you are football fans, there are also fans of football. While I love Sydney FC with passion, I also appreciate good football when played against us. If Socceroos ever played Portugal, I would want Jedinak to smash Ronaldo, but I would be able to appreciate how good the Portuguese side & wished we could play like them. I have mates like you (STH Melb fan), really strong Liverpool fans, Liverpool over everything, local football, England, English players, they can't appreciate a player like Bellingham, because he choose not to play for them, they are so blind one eye. They only see the bad calls that goes against them, never see the bad ones go for them, Liverpool only team with injuries, Liverpool only team playing young players.See the difference they are club fans & blinded & they miss so much, whereas I'm a football fan, when I was in Russia watching Socceroos playing France, my wife asked why I was taking photos of all the French players, I said because they were some of the best players in the world. hahaha your mate sounds a pretty ordinary Greek Liverpool fan to me. HAHAHAHAAHAH I know exactly the type. I too appreciate beautiful play and players and, although Im not a huge Belljngham fan, its not because he didnt sign in Anfield, I just prefer a differnt type of player... At the moment, outside of Liverpool players, I like Saka, Oedegard, sometimes Martinelli, Foden, Ake, Isak and Almiron from Newcastle ... et c etc etc... I too am a fan of foootball, but what I think we lack here is the "religiousness" of the game they have overseas... Portugal as much as any other place, where the club is the club is the club .... and thats all that counts... Thats what drives thousands of fans to go and watch EVERY week, not just old farts like you and I admiring players... do you get what I mean?
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+x+xSelf conflicts and fighting for self interest. Exactly my thoughts on following Australian football in the last 50 years. :doze: As usual I disagree with you Robbo (not on purpose I swear:) ) I dont think we have enough self interest in the game... It should be all about the club, above everything else... That would form the sort of rivalry every other country around the world thrives on... When you have people who are "fans of the sport in general but I dont have a team I follow" it sort of kills any chance of building any real connection.... at least in my opinion. This is not stating you are wrong. we just different. If for example the NST is a success & takes over & is the top tier of football & we are getting 30-40K a game & producing Socceroos at the highest levels, I would be willing to see that even if that meant SFC was discarded. I want football to succeed in this country more than my club. But that just me. That's why my sole interest in PL (apart from watching best teams in the world & Liverpool are in top 3 in world IMO) is Ange, I like to see Aussies succeed despite seeing my team Derby wallowing. Yeah but that is implying that just because I want my club to succeed I dont want Australian football to, that it is somehow mutually exclusive... I dont agree with that. Its admirable that you will watch the NST if it "takes over" the Aleague but I guess you wont pick a club to support nor attend is that right? If thats the case you and I are EXCACTLY doing the same thing...
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+x+x+xI think we can produce good atmosphere's in games.. Uruguay 05, AC Final 2015. We just stamp out active support instantly.... see the RBB. If we made a-league games proper events with active support allowed. More people would go. Its chicken and egg scenario mate... Young blokes want the type of active support that families and mums wont ever want.... APL wants a sanitised half way house in between which isnt achievable (unless they start with the MLS chansawing logs garbage and Star wars rounds) Whats Australian football does well is alienate the wrong people. Personally I've grown to find the ultra culture extremely cringe. It's good with the banter and that but to many people become dickheads in big groups Who mentioned "ultras"? thats just what the esshays here see on youtube videos and want to emulate... Fact is support differs all around the world, but the one thing Eastern Europe, Germany, Italy, Spain, England, Scotland, Africa, South America, Middle East and most of Asian leagues have in common is that the crowd that rocks up, sings the songs, burns the flares or smoke bombs or whatever and drinks the beers is predominately male and 20s-50s.. Definitely NOT family friendly....
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Australian football complains about Australian football really well.
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Hillbilly55
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+x+x+x+xI think we can produce good atmosphere's in games.. Uruguay 05, AC Final 2015. We just stamp out active support instantly.... see the RBB. If we made a-league games proper events with active support allowed. More people would go. Its chicken and egg scenario mate... Young blokes want the type of active support that families and mums wont ever want.... APL wants a sanitised half way house in between which isnt achievable (unless they start with the MLS chansawing logs garbage and Star wars rounds) Whats Australian football does well is alienate the wrong people. Personally I've grown to find the ultra culture extremely cringe. It's good with the banter and that but to many people become dickheads in big groups Who mentioned "ultras"? thats just what the esshays here see on youtube videos and want to emulate... Fact is support differs all around the world, but the one thing Eastern Europe, Germany, Italy, Spain, England, Scotland, Africa, South America, Middle East and most of Asian leagues have in common is that the crowd that rocks up, sings the songs, burns the flares or smoke bombs or whatever and drinks the beers is predominately male and 20s-50s.. Definitely NOT family friendly.... And they are the fans who spend that bit extra on another drink or pie or souva (etc.), so the clubs should be wanting them to turn up, not the mum's and dad's who can't afford the extras.
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+xAustralian football complains about Australian football really well. I don’t see it’s any different for any other country’s supporters. Its passion in many varied ways more than anything else. Everyone wants their NT to lift and play above themselves. Club level you live and breath it weekly. robbos there is always one eyed supporters as we well know as explained about your mates - in my own playing group there is 3 of them still carrying on about United’s treble class of 92 yadda yadda and boast their league titles - any other club doesn’t match up. How they are their loss - can’t even give a LFC player credit. Your mates having an issue with Bellingham is ridiculous. We were never in the ball game - media beat up. As for me I luv LFC but sure admire opposing players how can’t you not admire a top player from whoever they play for but that’s me. Even admire cr7 career as much as I can’t stand his persona whereas Messi is the complete package on the pitch and off. Anyway viva Oz football I’m dieing for a proper league and NST will take over my NPL attention onwards in the hope more youth development moves forward and Clubs with history grow again they thoroughly deserve.
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MCG what do we as a game do well ? Shoot ourselves in both feet more than anything else sadly. Cant leverage enough having the largest Jnr participation. Cant have all our Feds aligned. Cant unite us. A real shame for its all there to put the pieces together.
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Melbcityguy
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+xMCG what do we as a game do well ? Shoot ourselves in both feet more than anything else sadly. Cant leverage enough having the largest Jnr participation. Cant have all our Feds aligned. Cant unite us. A real shame for its all there to put the pieces together. Abolish the state feds then
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