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+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Every nations in AFC rescheduling of their domestic league for their clubs why can't our FA do it? If not then we should stay away from AFC and go back to OFC. This is disrespectful to the competition. Football Australia doesn’t schedule A league games that is done by the APL who ,since the split from then FFA, are totally responsible for the running of the domestic league. As for returning to the OFC I can’t see what that would achieve.
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+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Every nations in AFC rescheduling of their domestic league for their clubs why can't our FA do it? If not then we should stay away from AFC and go back to OFC. This is disrespectful to the competition.
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+xI think the AFC Cup needs restructuring. Ridiculous that West Asia has an expressway to the final and you could argue it isn't right geographically that Kyrgyzstan and Australia can meet. Despite that, I actually want the AFC to be total mixed around to remove the ME advantage they give themselves by avoiding East Asia in the group stages. It's just tricky with the cost and distance. I think Central Asia and the South Asia regions would have more feasible travel between themselves. As would WA and CA. I'll contradict myself and say that at least for WA, Australia has direct flights into many of those places. Europe isn't exactly comparable and the Conference League has become a fun thing for many clubs with the group stage offering a lot of good football. I initially thought an expanded version with even more teams in a more local sense for early rounds (like the EFL Cup) in a home and away leg knockout tournament would be the go. That way the teams less interested can just throw themselves out and spare 6 group games and the serious ones can plot a long run into the tournament. The Hub match rounds were good but it is tricky with all the league schedules. It appears that the AFC Champions League 2 (rebranded AFC Cup from next year) has been rejigged to the old Champions League format (32 teams, 4 groups East and West, Knockouts split until the final) from next season. EDIT: Source 
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I think the AFC Cup needs restructuring. Ridiculous that West Asia has an expressway to the final and you could argue it isn't right geographically that Kyrgyzstan and Australia can meet. Despite that, I actually want the AFC to be total mixed around to remove the ME advantage they give themselves by avoiding East Asia in the group stages. It's just tricky with the cost and distance.
I think Central Asia and the South Asia regions would have more feasible travel between themselves. As would WA and CA. I'll contradict myself and say that at least for WA, Australia has direct flights into many of those places. Europe isn't exactly comparable and the Conference League has become a fun thing for many clubs with the group stage offering a lot of good football. I initially thought an expanded version with even more teams in a more local sense for early rounds (like the EFL Cup) in a home and away leg knockout tournament would be the go. That way the teams less interested can just throw themselves out and spare 6 group games and the serious ones can plot a long run into the tournament. The Hub match rounds were good but it is tricky with all the league schedules.
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🚨 Fixture update 🚨 The Central Coast Mariners can confirm that our Pink Round match scheduled for this Sunday against Adelaide United has been postponed. Sunday will now see Our Paradise host our historic Liberty A-League Semi-Final as a standalone fixture, now scheduled for 3pm. More info 🗞: https://bit.ly/49Hsaqt
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. Mariners can win silverware and arrange a tour of off season friendlies in Asia but they wont get many coming out to see them play or sell any merch..... to be fair they picked up a sponsor too https://ccmariners.com.au/news/airasia-partners-with-central-coast-mariners-for-the-2023-2024-afc-cup/ The opportunities are there you just have to look for them.
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Not a surprise to the slightest the game this weekend has been moved, can’t control freak weather in a place it rarely rains especially at like that.
Maybe they can move the Nix fixture to be fair, but this was always going to happen unfortunately.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. Mariners can win silverware and arrange a tour of off season friendlies in Asia but they wont get many coming out to see them play or sell any merch..... to be fair they picked up a sponsor too https://ccmariners.com.au/news/airasia-partners-with-central-coast-mariners-for-the-2023-2024-afc-cup/
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. I agree... Sadly I dont see that ambition though... And in fairness to Australian clubs its hard to build a brand in Asia when its next to impossible to compete with the Euro mega clubs pushing their image down everyone's throats.Its hard enough to do it in Australia let alone in a foreign country.. Mariners can win silverware and arrange a tour of off season friendlies in Asia but they wont get many coming out to see them play or sell any merch..... not unless its against a Euro club or Messi or Ronaldo no matter who they are pretending to play for these days. Small steps though, you don’t get anything if you give up at the first hurdle. Getting the brand known is the first step and then take it from there. Oh Im all for it :)
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Good thing they were on the 5:55am to Istanbul as the one after has been put back 8 hours.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. I agree... Sadly I dont see that ambition though... And in fairness to Australian clubs its hard to build a brand in Asia when its next to impossible to compete with the Euro mega clubs pushing their image down everyone's throats.Its hard enough to do it in Australia let alone in a foreign country.. Mariners can win silverware and arrange a tour of off season friendlies in Asia but they wont get many coming out to see them play or sell any merch..... not unless its against a Euro club or Messi or Ronaldo no matter who they are pretending to play for these days. Small steps though, you don’t get anything if you give up at the first hurdle. Getting the brand known is the first step and then take it from there.
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+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. I agree... Sadly I dont see that ambition though... And in fairness to Australian clubs its hard to build a brand in Asia when its next to impossible to compete with the Euro mega clubs pushing their image down everyone's throats.Its hard enough to do it in Australia let alone in a foreign country.. Mariners can win silverware and arrange a tour of off season friendlies in Asia but they wont get many coming out to see them play or sell any merch..... not unless its against a Euro club or Messi or Ronaldo no matter who they are pretending to play for these days.
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+x+x+x+xIs there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night. AFC provide US$40k (AU$62k) per game as a travel subsidy. Winner receives US$1.5m (AU$2.33m). Runner up receives US$750k (AU$1.16m). Third receives US$100k (AU$155k) 62k would not cover costs at all need to win it to make it worthwhile Yeah it's the same subsidy value they use for the ACL and the A-League clubs have repeatedly said the out-of-pocket expenses are way higher than what the subsidy covers. From memory I think it only barely covers airfares for players and core coaching staff and that's about it. Club still has to cover accommodation as well as airfares for any other staff that are required. I remember Danny McBreen (i think it was), spoke about the first time CCM qualified for the ACL. Himself and a few others approached the club about the players getting a percentage cut of the money. They were then shown all the negative figures in a spreadsheet and essentially laughed out of the room. yeah, nice info cheers
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+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it. I agree with you there, the Mariners now have very forward thinking management who CAN see commercial opportunities that this would open up, unlike the majority of Australian football clubs ( management and fans alike) who only see prestige in a grand final win.
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The point of football is to be the best and to win trophies if afc/FFA/apl etc aren't helping the clubs then it's on them
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+x+xIs there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night. AFC provide US$40k (AU$62k) per game as a travel subsidy. Winner receives US$1.5m (AU$2.33m). Runner up receives US$750k (AU$1.16m). Third receives US$100k (AU$155k) Thanks mate.
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+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? If that scenario is the case then it shows how much they respect Asia, otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC. But I feel some of the clubs like the mariners want to take it seriously because it helps builds there prestige and brand in Asia and therefore the commercial opportunities within it.
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+x+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? I doubt it, I don’t think the prestige of an A league club winning an AFC tournament is of any value to APL. On the other hand FA would undoubtedly like and benefit from that feather in the cap for Australian football but I don’t think they have a say in A league scheduling. I think it’s only the pride of the Mariners club itself that is driving them on. I don’t think FFA made much use out of the Wanderers winning the Asian Champions League.
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+x+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though? I doubt it, I don’t think the prestige of an A league club winning an AFC tournament is of any value to APL. On the other hand FA would undoubtedly like and benefit from that feather in the cap for Australian football but I don’t think they have a say in A league scheduling.
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+x+x+xIs there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night. AFC provide US$40k (AU$62k) per game as a travel subsidy. Winner receives US$1.5m (AU$2.33m). Runner up receives US$750k (AU$1.16m). Third receives US$100k (AU$155k) 62k would not cover costs at all need to win it to make it worthwhile Yeah it's the same subsidy value they use for the ACL and the A-League clubs have repeatedly said the out-of-pocket expenses are way higher than what the subsidy covers. From memory I think it only barely covers airfares for players and core coaching staff and that's about it. Club still has to cover accommodation as well as airfares for any other staff that are required. I remember Danny McBreen (i think it was), spoke about the first time CCM qualified for the ACL. Himself and a few others approached the club about the players getting a percentage cut of the money. They were then shown all the negative figures in a spreadsheet and essentially laughed out of the room.
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+x+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
Do the APL want the clubs to take AFC comps seriously though?
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+x+xIs there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night. AFC provide US$40k (AU$62k) per game as a travel subsidy. Winner receives US$1.5m (AU$2.33m). Runner up receives US$750k (AU$1.16m). Third receives US$100k (AU$155k) 62k would not cover costs at all need to win it to make it worthwhile
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+x+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel? The problem is the travel through the AFC is a lot more challenging and costly so if the APL and FA want the clubs to take the continental competitions seriously they need to help them with scheduling of games it’s part of the reality in Asia otherwise what’s the point of being in the AFC in the first place?
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+xThey should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with. To be fair, CCM only had to play Perth, WU, Roar and Adelaide twice last season and Newcastle, Sydney and Mcarthur 3 times.... so not as much travel?
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+xIs there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night. AFC provide US$40k (AU$62k) per game as a travel subsidy. Winner receives US$1.5m (AU$2.33m). Runner up receives US$750k (AU$1.16m). Third receives US$100k (AU$155k)
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They should reschedule the weekends game to another date then, a bit rich from the Nix fans celebrating about it when New Zealand is not part of the AFC.
I guess if you want to compete in the AFC expect the travel and cost factor to be problem, it makes it more problematic with how APL run the league.
For example having a salary cap when most leagues in the AFC don’t have one when Aussie clubs have small squads to work with.
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Is there any money for this?? Must be costing them a fortune. Cracking equalising strike last night.
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+xBrutal schedule just got worse. Flight home via Dubai cancelled which would have had them in Sydney Friday 6:30am. Looks like 5.55am From Bishek to Istanbul 6hr 5 min - 9:00am in Turkey 7 hour 25 min layover 4.25pm from Istanbul to Bangkok 9hr 40 min - 6:05am Friday in Thailand 2 hr 25 min layover 8:30am from Bangkok to Sydney 9 hr 8:30pm - Friday Sydney Game 3pm Sunday. Absolutely monstrous schedule. So they have lost 14 hours of rest and recovery for the Adelaide game. Holy Shit!!!!!!!! It would have been quicker by boat........
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Brutal schedule just got worse. Flight home via Dubai cancelled which would have had them in Sydney Friday 6:30am.
Looks like
5.55am From Bishek to Istanbul 6hr 5 min - 9:00am in Turkey
7 hour 25 min layover
4.25pm from Istanbul to Bangkok 9hr 40 min - 6:05am Friday in Thailand
2 hr 25 min layover
8:30am from Bangkok to Sydney 9 hr 8:30pm - Friday Sydney
Game 3pm Sunday. Absolutely monstrous schedule.
So they have lost 14 hours of rest and recovery for the Adelaide game.
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+xDo away goals count? I imagine the Mariners will be solid at home. Nah, no away goals any more unfortunately. I hate that competitions have removed away goals
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