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+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. well working together is the politcal question. On one hand you have JJ with 110% interests in the game as a whole and for the bigger picture ( he also is a polli CEO wise), on the other hand you have a resigned polli who is a Independant Chairman of a separate company that he's responsible to his shareholders - he's also a ex polli who resigned with this kind of attitude and approach : "The regulation of telecommunications powers in Australia is exclusively federal. That means I am in charge of spectrum auctions, and if I say to everyone in this room 'if you want to bid in our spectrum auction you'd better wear red underpants on your head', I've got some news for you. You'll be wearing them on your head ... I have unfettered legal power." I have some fear due to the financial burdens the APL are enduring so we're told will JJ if the worst may occur (depending future broadcast deals) IF APL fold in the future he'll feel compelled to help to bail it out for the sake of the game ?????? the rich owners really should be dipping into their pockets more and more. Will the APL/Clubs have funds for players wages ? are they having to incur salary decrease's ? Club admins/TD's etcetc. Is this a valid argument above ? JJ of course would concern himself with the APL - it is part of the football in Australia - but hopefully as as pre-emptive rather than reactive way. I think government liaison is something that the AFL and NRL do well. They tend to have one contact. We seem to have multiple approaching all levels of govt. JJ and Conroy have both said at times that is an area that needs to improve and we need to present a united approach. As an example Vlandys is saying he has a $600m 10 year deal with the fed govt. JJ has done his infrastructure audit and some of that has been addressed at the edges but much more needs to be done. Football, being the largest participation football sport as well as having considerably less concussive risk has a number of health advantages that potentially saves the health budget - possibly, indeed probably, enough to justify on its own a similar investment as Vlandys is claiming, It is also the World Game and should be used by DFAT instead of AFL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. well working together is the politcal question. On one hand you have JJ with 110% interests in the game as a whole and for the bigger picture ( he also is a polli CEO wise), on the other hand you have a resigned polli who is a Independant Chairman of a separate company that he's responsible to his shareholders - he's also a ex polli who resigned with this kind of attitude and approach : "The regulation of telecommunications powers in Australia is exclusively federal. That means I am in charge of spectrum auctions, and if I say to everyone in this room 'if you want to bid in our spectrum auction you'd better wear red underpants on your head', I've got some news for you. You'll be wearing them on your head ... I have unfettered legal power." I have some fear due to the financial burdens the APL are enduring so we're told will JJ if the worst may occur (depending future broadcast deals) IF APL fold in the future he'll feel compelled to help to bail it out for the sake of the game ?????? the rich owners really should be dipping into their pockets more and more. Will the APL/Clubs have funds for players wages ? are they having to incur salary decrease's ? Club admins/TD's etcetc. Is this a valid argument above ? JJ of course would concern himself with the APL - it is part of the football in Australia - but hopefully as as pre-emptive rather than reactive way. I think government liaison is something that the AFL and NRL do well. They tend to have one contact. We seem to have multiple approaching all levels of govt. JJ and Conroy have both said at times that is an area that needs to improve and we need to present a united approach. As an example Vlandys is saying he has a $600m 10 year deal with the fed govt. JJ has done his infrastructure audit and some of that has been addressed at the edges but much more needs to be done. Football, being the largest participation football sport as well as having considerably less concussive risk has a number of health advantages that potentially saves the health budget - possibly, indeed probably, enough to justify on its own a similar investment as Vlandys is claiming, It is also the World Game and should be used by DFAT instead of AFL. I get what you’re saying but politicians are always looking for votes and if it’s to their political benefit then they will go for the NRL (or AFL) vote. I doubt the fact that it’s the world game would have any influence whatsoever.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. well working together is the politcal question. On one hand you have JJ with 110% interests in the game as a whole and for the bigger picture ( he also is a polli CEO wise), on the other hand you have a resigned polli who is a Independant Chairman of a separate company that he's responsible to his shareholders - he's also a ex polli who resigned with this kind of attitude and approach : "The regulation of telecommunications powers in Australia is exclusively federal. That means I am in charge of spectrum auctions, and if I say to everyone in this room 'if you want to bid in our spectrum auction you'd better wear red underpants on your head', I've got some news for you. You'll be wearing them on your head ... I have unfettered legal power." I have some fear due to the financial burdens the APL are enduring so we're told will JJ if the worst may occur (depending future broadcast deals) IF APL fold in the future he'll feel compelled to help to bail it out for the sake of the game ?????? the rich owners really should be dipping into their pockets more and more. Will the APL/Clubs have funds for players wages ? are they having to incur salary decrease's ? Club admins/TD's etcetc. Is this a valid argument above ? JJ of course would concern himself with the APL - it is part of the football in Australia - but hopefully as as pre-emptive rather than reactive way. I think government liaison is something that the AFL and NRL do well. They tend to have one contact. We seem to have multiple approaching all levels of govt. JJ and Conroy have both said at times that is an area that needs to improve and we need to present a united approach. As an example Vlandys is saying he has a $600m 10 year deal with the fed govt. JJ has done his infrastructure audit and some of that has been addressed at the edges but much more needs to be done. Football, being the largest participation football sport as well as having considerably less concussive risk has a number of health advantages that potentially saves the health budget - possibly, indeed probably, enough to justify on its own a similar investment as Vlandys is claiming, It is also the World Game and should be used by DFAT instead of AFL. I get what you’re saying but politicians are always looking for votes and if it’s to their political benefit then they will go for the NRL (or AFL) vote. I doubt the fact that it’s the world game would have any influence whatsoever. The main point was the upside to the health budget by providing more to sports that are played rather than watched. Win for football and win for the budget.
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Mind you it presents a good counter argument looking ahead. Those 2 codes are not the future nor will last forever as 1/2 codes here sooner or later. i know it’s a long shot right now but it does have merit. concussion injuries less that is a big deal today. They should also argue it is more inclusive than the other codes ahead hence the increase of regos at Jnr levels. Id be throwing everything you can to sell your sport that’s for sure.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. well working together is the politcal question. On one hand you have JJ with 110% interests in the game as a whole and for the bigger picture ( he also is a polli CEO wise), on the other hand you have a resigned polli who is a Independant Chairman of a separate company that he's responsible to his shareholders - he's also a ex polli who resigned with this kind of attitude and approach : "The regulation of telecommunications powers in Australia is exclusively federal. That means I am in charge of spectrum auctions, and if I say to everyone in this room 'if you want to bid in our spectrum auction you'd better wear red underpants on your head', I've got some news for you. You'll be wearing them on your head ... I have unfettered legal power." I have some fear due to the financial burdens the APL are enduring so we're told will JJ if the worst may occur (depending future broadcast deals) IF APL fold in the future he'll feel compelled to help to bail it out for the sake of the game ?????? the rich owners really should be dipping into their pockets more and more. Will the APL/Clubs have funds for players wages ? are they having to incur salary decrease's ? Club admins/TD's etcetc. Is this a valid argument above ? JJ of course would concern himself with the APL - it is part of the football in Australia - but hopefully as as pre-emptive rather than reactive way. I think government liaison is something that the AFL and NRL do well. They tend to have one contact. We seem to have multiple approaching all levels of govt. JJ and Conroy have both said at times that is an area that needs to improve and we need to present a united approach. As an example Vlandys is saying he has a $600m 10 year deal with the fed govt. JJ has done his infrastructure audit and some of that has been addressed at the edges but much more needs to be done. Football, being the largest participation football sport as well as having considerably less concussive risk has a number of health advantages that potentially saves the health budget - possibly, indeed probably, enough to justify on its own a similar investment as Vlandys is claiming, It is also the World Game and should be used by DFAT instead of AFL. Fair points pj. Its not just that do well trouble is it’s been part of the fabric for the last 50yrs way more than football ever has. Every aspect in business and gov recognise the marketing power and pull incl the media that is right behind both codes but its not like it was - its living on its past - I can’t see how those games can grow like football, especially the women’s/young girls side of the fence. Something g has to give sooner or later And for starters JJ has to get this messy house of ours in order - that’s the main front that needs correcting asap.
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 Their press release was not really for you and yes , that does say 2030
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Obviously APL are always going to play the positive spin card. On the surface some of these numbers are good. However the TV viewers increase is a bit of a false positive. Why was there an increase? Seeing a 53% increase on P+ but only a 7% increase at the grounds is a bit odd. I'd say a big chunk of those TV numbers are people that are choosing to watch from home rather than attend games. Many people are cutting back on their spending and it's far cheaper to watch. I'd say the small attendance increase is mainly due to MV, CCM and Nix all managing to increase their attendance from the previous year. Also SFC, WSW, MC and AU all being able to maintain consistent numbers.
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+xJust picturing all of the players realising they no longer need to buy their SO a new outfit for the evening. the A-league is So skint that they couldnt bring canberra in this upcoming 2024-25 season
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+x+xJust picturing all of the players realising they no longer need to buy their SO a new outfit for the evening. the A-league is So skint that they couldnt bring canberra in this upcoming 2024-25 season Eh - if they were skint, they would have fast tracked it for the licence fees. More of a decision by 'the (mysterious) backers' to actually give themselves time to plan.
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+xCFG lost $200m last year, wouldn't hurt that much to cover the Awards night ? LoL go cover it yourself lol
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+x+x+xJust picturing all of the players realising they no longer need to buy their SO a new outfit for the evening. the A-league is So skint that they couldnt bring canberra in this upcoming 2024-25 season Eh - if they were skint, they would have fast tracked it for the licence fees. More of a decision by 'the (mysterious) backers' to actually give themselves time to plan. Really? It makes more sense financially to being Canberra in as the 14th side and play 7 games each round.
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+x+xCFG lost $200m last year, wouldn't hurt that much to cover the Awards night ? LoL go cover it yourself lol You also missed my point the first time you quoted that Maybe come back in a month and have a 3rd go
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Clubs remain unclear on the distribution of revenue for the next league campaign, with many due to begin pre-season training over the next month.
Board meetings to discuss next season's distributions have been pushed back twice over the last month. https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8669949/a-leagues-clubs-want-bigger-role-for-football-australia/
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+x+x+x+xJust picturing all of the players realising they no longer need to buy their SO a new outfit for the evening. the A-league is So skint that they couldnt bring canberra in this upcoming 2024-25 season Eh - if they were skint, they would have fast tracked it for the licence fees. More of a decision by 'the (mysterious) backers' to actually give themselves time to plan. Really? It makes more sense financially to being Canberra in as the 14th side and play 7 games each round. It makes sense logistically, sure. But the only real financial benefit to it needing to be done this year over next is that APL get extra skint money.
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+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. Its not a bad ploy and I suspect there is some truth, behind the scenes in this... JJ (from what I understand) wants winter football, a universal club licensing agreement, pro rell with ALL of football, and a domestic transfer system in palce ASAP... If he dangles the cash carrot perhaps APL will blink.... I still think the "ace up the sleeve" FA has is the Championship, if they cant get the "investors' to come to the party we may very well see first division status granted to the fledgling league in the near future ... that would be great btw. $10 says this will be deleted....
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+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. Its not a bad ploy and I suspect there is some truth, behind the scenes in this... JJ (from what I understand) wants winter football, a universal club licensing agreement, pro rell with ALL of football, and a domestic transfer system in palce ASAP... If he dangles the cash carrot perhaps APL will blink.... I still think the "ace up the sleeve" FA has is the Championship, if they cant get the "investors' to come to the party we may very well see first division status granted to the fledgling league in the near future ... that would be great btw. $10 says this will be deleted.... Too late - I saw it hahaha
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIts a fair question by the journos above, Conroy the pollie would you expect anything different. IF I had a sip of coffee when he was saying working close with the FA and keen on building the pyramid I would have spat all over my screen. All these fooking suits man they are just the same. Except Johnson his killing it
James Johnson is nobody’s fool, he would be holding his cards close to his chest. FA may be in the best financial position it’s been for years (ever ?) but he’s not about to blow it helping APL out of the mess they’ve created. Agree with that - but equally either is Conroy (in spite of the fact or maybe because of the fact he was a politician). I expect the FA and the APL, with these two, while needing and wanting their own specific outcomes, will work together in representations to Govt and in negotiations regarding broadcast deals. Its not a bad ploy and I suspect there is some truth, behind the scenes in this... JJ (from what I understand) wants winter football, a universal club licensing agreement, pro rell with ALL of football, and a domestic transfer system in palce ASAP... If he dangles the cash carrot perhaps APL will blink.... I still think the "ace up the sleeve" FA has is the Championship, if they cant get the "investors' to come to the party we may very well see first division status granted to the fledgling league in the near future ... that would be great btw. $10 says this will be deleted.... Too late - I saw it hahaha lol I think I have really pissed off the new dawn snowflakes.... its quite easy to do apparently :)
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+xHaha I’ve screen shot it :) Careful mate, theyll start deleting yours too :P hahahahahaha
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+x+xHaha I’ve screen shot it :) Careful mate, theyll start deleting yours too :P hahahahahaha Are there still mods on here? Well you learn something new every day.
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So an appearance fee of $81 million for just appearing in the FIFA Club World Cup??? Surely not, as Oceania have a guaranteed spot each time, this means the NZ league will become more lucrative than the A-League wont it? One of their teams gets to pick up 81 mil every 4 years, surely more money gets put into the league and other teams try to chase it. Auckland City have already qualified for the Club World Cup, wont this make them far bigger than Auckland FC or whatever is joining the A-league?
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+xSo an appearance fee of $81 million for just appearing in the FIFA Club World Cup??? Surely not, as Oceania have a guaranteed spot each time, this means the NZ league will become more lucrative than the A-League wont it? One of their teams gets to pick up 81 mil every 4 years, surely more money gets put into the league and other teams try to chase it. Auckland City have already qualified for the Club World Cup, wont this make them far bigger than Auckland FC or whatever is joining the A-league? All great questions and very logical. Why are you asking me?
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+xSo an appearance fee of $81 million for just appearing in the FIFA Club World Cup??? Surely not, as Oceania have a guaranteed spot each time, this means the NZ league will become more lucrative than the A-League wont it? One of their teams gets to pick up 81 mil every 4 years, surely more money gets put into the league and other teams try to chase it. Auckland City have already qualified for the Club World Cup, wont this make them far bigger than Auckland FC or whatever is joining the A-league? Well... every confederation has guaranteed spots.. Ok. Yes, sure - NZ 'usually' wins (and it's usually Auckland City), but not always. Hienghène of New Caledonia won in 2019
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+x+xSo an appearance fee of $81 million for just appearing in the FIFA Club World Cup??? Surely not, as Oceania have a guaranteed spot each time, this means the NZ league will become more lucrative than the A-League wont it? One of their teams gets to pick up 81 mil every 4 years, surely more money gets put into the league and other teams try to chase it. Auckland City have already qualified for the Club World Cup, wont this make them far bigger than Auckland FC or whatever is joining the A-league? Well... every confederation has guaranteed spots.. Ok. Yes, sure - NZ 'usually' wins (and it's usually Auckland City), but not always. Hienghène of New Caledonia won in 2019 Yeah but once they get the first 80 million next season they would surely never lose to an amateur/semi-pro side in a game that matters again.
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+x+x+xCFG lost $200m last year, wouldn't hurt that much to cover the Awards night ? Didn't all you ass 🤡 clowns said the FFA badly run this league? At least there was money to host these events. So what did the APL do to lose all this cash? I'm sure APL still have enough money for the Warren night But that would leave less for the Repucom gang to syphon That is nice to hear
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