Thankyou V and nice to see you posting mate.

Yer I don't get the waffle Middy/Graz carry on about - its misleading to a degree re Jnr's.
Unless I'm blind that I can't read or view on the screens I watch there is way way more Jnr's/young introduced by the APL Clubs.
Infact where is any decent named marquee anymore, feck all so what they on about Clubs will be forced more to introduce more of their Jnrs/Academy players, they frigging are and some have HAD to because they broke or NO owners till of late.
PG/Newy - heaps of no names for they've had no budget/resource but for keeping afloat by their APL system handouts.
BR have been skimming the budget for yonks - many young fellas mixed with 2nd rate experienced players.
Seriously get real.
What some have lacked is transfers, well maybe no one abroad like whats on offer ? anyone thought of that ?

Question Graz or whoever who knows where to search - how many Aussie players are currently on contract abroad please ?

... and there is no longer the boogeyman of "old soccer" to blame....  I wonder what they next revival of the sport is going to be "New Soccer" perhaps?

I like the AAFC cheeky suggestion a few years back "Football, as we know it" hahahahaha

It's really amazing because when I joined this forum. We had a fully engaged ratings/attendance and membership thread.

We wanted every club to average 10k to a match 
Wanderers were beating gws 
There was such a sense of optimism 

Now we're barely surviving 

This.

Since covid the a league have been forced to play more junior players anyway. 

We have unearthed an extravagant amount of young talent like we haven't before since the cutting of cost.

This is the one major positive aspect which should continue even when things start going well and money comes back into the game

Rugari on Conroy

and that penalty clauses within the APL’s broadcast rights deal with Paramount – as first reported by this masthead – had meant it was not worth as much as was publicly announced when the deal was inked in May 2021, thus necessitating immediate budgetary adjustments

At least one of these is not true

Invited to join, or beg to join, the result is the same.... 

P and r is best for football in australia. We are in a global sport which means we need to optimize what is best for producing the best possible national team. A better national team benefits the a league and there are cash pools in football not available to other codes like the transfer markt, national team tv rights, prize money and participation revenue 

Not sure about afl but the nrl has the governing body run the league like we used to. This governing structure makes p and r more unlikely. As soon as the fa split from the apl the nst finally got momentum. If the nrl split from the oz rugby league commision it wouldnt surprise me that they would build a nst and p and r even without the pressure of global competition

Ah yes promotion and relegation is the difference in this league making money and going broke.

Yep the AFL and NRL have promotion and relegation 

It should encourage clubs to work with what realistically they have, you think there will be more opportunities for young players providing they do it properly and more emphasis on finding good players from overseas that won't cost alot so clubs should think twice with regards to scouting and work with their means.

It will be an challenging time but im always optimistic for future.

Hopefully we get news on the NSD soon and of course our national teams always give us hope.

that would be a bad thing imo

a separate top division and fa means the fa can focus on grass roots and work towards p and r happening

if the championship is run by the apl it is the same incentive structure as the nsl and a league has had and you can forget about a connected pyramid (although you might see some weird version of p and r temporarily tried like it was in the nsl era)

we need two top divisions for football to move forward

Absolutely zero chance of FA wasting money on the A-Leagues.
My guess is that if the APL fail then clubs will be invited to join the Championship.

My guess is the repayments

Conway mentioned the debts. Also simon hill stated there has been no cut to tv revenue and that is just fox having a go at a rival. Those sources sound more reliable than the noise from fox

Without the repayments we probably dont cut this year. But even a bigger tv deal might partially go to repayments

It certainly makes the original apl boards transgressions even more egregious!

If the fa take over it will become their debt

I have also heard that, DT signed a doc that apparently allowed Silver lake if things turned sour to convert their shares into a loan.

As an aside, last year according to APL rating when up by over 30%.

HHHMMMmmmm why then is the broadcast deal down or is it the interest payment to Silver lake that has caused the fall in revenue.

One risk is that bozza is claiming the 140mil has to be paid by 2029

leading in to covid and post the talk was of the amount of youngsters being used and emerging.
Infact some were saying how good it was post covid season/s so don't understand forcing the APL Clubs looking to use more Jnrs, they have been.
The only diff is some Clubs don't work the transfer model like others such as CCM.
The big usual 4 have the resources as has been mentioned many times.

I agree. If we can survive this period it could really help the nt

The question is why did it take financial pressure for clubs to start chasing money on the teansfermarkt

If the a league survives i hope they dont go back to playing 34 year old foreign journeymen again

The very old saying every cloud has a silver lining.

The errors of the past management of the APL are well stated and recorded. The result  as well all know, is a huge reduction in funding from the broadcast deal.

What this will do is force clubs to change the way they operate.

The Mariners have always sold players to stay afloat, more recently so have Adelaide.

JJ has spoke at length about clubs needing to develop transfer fees as a regular part of their operating model.

Two things I think will emerge, all clubs will start to play younger players which will be slightly cheaper, but if each club developed one player per year who was sold overseas and we had 14 clubs.

That is 14 players, off to Europe, Japan, MLS or wherever to further develop. Over time we could have over 100 locally developed players playing overseas.

That will be very good for National sides, arguably cheaper to run, and many good players in their mid teens staying in Football rather than take up league or AFL.

The news is not good, but it may force change at club level administration.