Ljubo at that pre-season game had some fantastic passing and positioning, his downfall on the night he could not pick up with the pace and gave away too many silly free kicks whilst trying to chase a player. I reckon he would've been a version of Lucas Neill if he was playing now.

And the outstanding Ljubo was quickly snapped up by which club?

You are obviously trolling, but I feel like being a condescending twat. So, let me try and put this into an analogy you may be able to understand.

A brewer makes a delicious beer called Ljubraü. This beer tastes amazing, gets you pleasantly drunk and leaves you with the mildest of hangovers the next day. The only problem is, when you drink it you violently shit yourself. The brewer claims that the Ljubraü recipe has been tinkered with and you will no longer have the unfortunate bouts of rectal explosion, some of the original customers are sceptical and opt not to buy the new Ljubraü however new customers who have heard of the amazing benefits decide to trust the brewer's claim that the problems are gone. To the new customers dismay, the explosive shit is worse than ever and they quickly abandon the product. The brewer once more waits a while and comes back with sample market research showing a happy consumer base in a small location with no problems. A group of customers are having real problems with conventional beers and hesitantly try Ljubraü on this new information. Unfortunately, the problems are still there and Ljubraü is (literally) dumped again. A core group of Ljubraü loyalists still exist and want it back, adamant their bowels can handle it.

A product can be great but if there are too many recurrent negative side effects, or the market is saturated, it won't find a buyer. Ljubo was walking a fine line when Glory signed him, however he provided evidence that he was able to be stable at a eastern states state league club and Glory were in a situation where they had one senior CB and one junior CB with no specialist cover. It was a risk, but one that could have come out fantastic for Glory. Once it didn't though, the risk factor for other clubs to sign Ljubo flared up and in a saturated CB market he became an unappealing target despite his obvious ability.

I think you need to lay off the beer.

Edited by All For Goals and Glory: 29/12/2013 06:16:00 PM

Gallas not traveling over east for the double header but the Edwards devotees do not believe he is a dud signing. ](*,)

http://soccerstoppagetime.podbean.com/2013/12/28/soccer-stoppage-time-23-december-2013/

Tony Sage is on the start, highly recommend to listen.

-Vukovic and Thwaite started the meeting with Edwards followed by Mcgarry and later Burns
-Edwards sons were on bonus game contracts and plus other bonuses with cars/housing which Sage didn't confirm or deny.
-Alistair rejected the idea of having to have the CEO sign off on player contracts
-Glory coaches have free reign with contracts except marquees
-Jacob Burns agreed to apologise to Alistair
-Sage said he put Burns on the bench to humiliate him and make a point
-Players mad about Panteledis, he did not want to go.
-SST allege Edwards leaked info to SBS and bullied players
-New rule that no family members ever again
-Sage warned about signing Ljubo
-A lot of big names have applied for the coaching job and Lowe has to earn it, Lowe has watched and been to every game this season
-Nagai out for 4-5 weeks
-looking for injury replacements
-Gallas should be available for Newcastle game
-Membership up 20% 3rd in the league, crowds up %10, not a basket case
-Would of broken even had we not brought William Gallas
-Sage has been away for 150 days this year, not involved with everything
-SST allege Gallas failed 2 medicals before coming to PG

David Davutovic on at about 34mins, talking about PG, claims Edward sons on about bare minimum, SST say 70k and 90k.

Thanks for the info iridium. Unfortunately just makes it harder to tell what the hell is going on in the club. Seems like the tangle of webs involved in the mess just bigger the more is known.

If you do listen just be aware that's sst are the biggest dickheads going around.



yw

Edited by iridium1010: 29/12/2013 09:56:09 PM

SST's little birdies singing a different tune to Benjamin's little birdies. :roll:

It's all a case of smoke and mirrors and people claiming knowledge when they have none...or when they have the knowledge (ie Sage), warping it to their own means so that things are even murkier.

You believe that Edwards was the instigator of bringing Gallas to Perth? I suppose you also believe that Burns deserves to be in the starting 11 and a contract extension too.

Edited by soil: 29/12/2013 08:22:55 PM

Edited by soil: 29/12/2013 08:23:38 PM

Don't think I can be bothered listening. Is there any more information concerning the injury replacements? Or did he just state that they were looking for them and that's all...

Like all your comments, an observation made with no basis in fact or reason. I don't drink alcohol at all, your posts just indicate you operate on some level of permanent intoxication so it seemed like an analogy you would understand.

mmmmmmm, beer......

Had a listen. A LOT of vitriol and accusations from the SST guys. Would find it more believable the SST interviewer didn't admit during the program that he manages a number of Glory players and this thing didn't have the smell of a player revolt. SST really went out of their way to try to justify the actions of the players and paint Edwards as totally in the wrong. "Its not about Burns, its about insulting the club captain, that's an attack on the club"! Give me a break.

Edwards may or may not have been a good communicator, and he may have been a bit naive about being backed by the owner in the situation he put himself in, but the whole 'case against Edwards' seems to me to be well overcooked.

In the end, seems that Sage thought Edwards did very well tactically (esp with all the injuries). This accords with what most on here believe.

Hope that from here, Lowe can continue the good work without creating a shitstorm. Not 100% convinced, as Lowe has to prove himself for the gig and Sage is talking injury replacements - which in the past has sometimes been code for older hacks. We do have Jamo, Risdon, Nagai all out injured for a bit, but Woodcock and Davies have done ever so well and we do have Smeltz, Cernak and Gallas (maybe) back shortly. We are loaded with players who can play wide, so we can cover Nagai. Hope we only go for injury cover if we are looking for class players who will be around next season, or players who won't push out the kids who are doing well.

Haven't they heard of nepotism and vested interests. :lol:

Lost me on credibility.

I rarely bother with alcohol myself TBH.

SST have an agenda against Edwards, wouldn't bother with them.

Also, in better news to most (apart from Rooster),Thwaite has signed on for two more years.

Excellent.

Maclaren is out with groin injury.

After listening to Tony Sage no wonder Ali has not offered anything up, bang to rites. Well done Tony looks as though he is getting the club turned around.

Forget to switch accounts?

LOL](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Harold might actually get a game as a striker instead of a winger.

Edited by thomasemiliodavies: 30/12/2013 06:49:16 PM

Yeah I would like to see that. Probably Makeche gets a start there though, and Harold on the wing.

Thwaite re-signing is another good thing too. though there is some worry there.

Everything aside, Thwaite, Vuka, Jamieson are the sort of Easterners you'd like at the club, those who are capable A-League players and raise the bar at the club. Maclaren too, is a good youngster you'd hope to see develop here. Then you just need the Sandgroper to now develop like Neville/Risdon (whilst at the club). One thing we do need to aquire though is another quality CM, but that doesn't look like happening.

The problem is that the club is re-sigining players (like Thwaite, Sidnei, Clisby, Harold) is that they are doing this without an actual coach so who's running the show? Doesn't say much to prospective coaches when players are being re-signed before they even have a coach. Next pre-season he's just meant to twiddle his thumbs because the "Club" have signed his squad?

Nothing in it really gives you hope...

sorry thought remark was aimed at me, apologies

So we're now apparently trying to keep Smeltz...also Clisby signed a new 2 yr deal.

Hard to know where to go with Smeltz, and accept that injuries can happen to anyone.
Reading all things factual (ie, Wiki among others), gives some A League stats:
Before Glory, 77 games - 49 goals.
Glory season one, 26 games - 17 goals.
Glory seasons two and three, 23 games - 7 goals.
And worser, those 23 games from a possible 40 after today.
If he went elsewhere, and factor in the obligatory 50% improvement of anyone leaving Glory, I guess he'd be star again.
So which way do we gamble given our current over abundance of strikers?
(We're ahead of Heart in goals scored this season).

I would presume it would be a drastically reduced contract for Smeltz so that would be a plus. I would still be trying to get a goal scorer in regardless.

I'm really not keen to keep him, hardly brilliant last season and has been plagued by injury.