It doesn't matter. He's list listed as the NPL TD. In black and white. Not Kenny Lowe.

Therefore, when I mentioned he was the NPL TD, guess what, that's correct!

Sorry, I don't make-believe like you.

If you have real information that's to the contrary, by all means, bring it forward.

Also:
Callum Salmon:

Branko Jelic

Brad Hassell


I think this non-reading thing is an act. No one can be this stupid twice in a row.

Edited by andytoddselbow: 23/5/2014 12:43:35 AM

Indeed. Ah well, he lasted a little longer than some would've presumed, given Arnie exited a while ago now? He's atleast benefitted from the extra long season, good standard J-League training we can only presume and now gets to have an off-season break as per the rest of the squad. He can resume pre-season training with the team, nice and early, too. So not too bad a result, not for Glory anyway? :-k

Too bad that it seems none of our Aussie/A-League people, be they coaching staff or players, have impacted with Vegalta? On that, I wonder how Michael McGlinchey is faring over there, as the last surviving A-League recruit with that club?

Edited by GloryPerth: 23/5/2014 02:39:21 AM

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Too bad that it seems none of our Aussie/A-League people, be they coaching staff or players, have impacted with Vegalta? On that, I wonder how Michael McGlinchey is faring over there, as the last surviving A-League recruit with that club?
Edited by GloryPerth: 23/5/2014 02:39:21 AM[/quote]

The Soccerway stats have McGlinchey as only making 6 appearances out of 14. Four times he came on as a sub, and the twice he started, he was subbed off. [That site has him at 60kgs, so maybe it's been too windy for him or something].
The team sounded similar to Glory, with 1 win from its first 10 games, so the coaching change didn't have an immediate effect. But now they've won 4 on the trot, and are 11th of 18.

None of these people are on The Perth Glory payroll (expection of Callum who runs 2 jobs same as last year when he coached FW Senior Skillaroos), these are not Glory Coaches. These are FW/FFA employees.

Why would Glory Head Coach be answerable to a TD who is only is in name because it is NPL requirement to list one?

This all brings us to the side debate of who should be running the NPL sides PG or FW/FFA? because at the moment it s FW/FFA and not Glory.

He's astounded because he's coming back to Perth, not that he's coming back from a failed loan.

EG's little birdies are losing their chirp it seems.

lol I see ATE. :p



Thanks for that Shanagar! Hmm that recent purple patch is probably the 'new coach syndrome' where squad motivation boosts to impress the new coach, some players given a second chance/chance etc... That's ironically what we arguably didn't quite see under Lowe (Not sustained anyway), though granted Lowe came in under stranger than normal circumstances, perhaps.

Still such a shame that Arnie couldn't settle and really build something over there. Such a shame - Arnie returning to this league has the same disappointing kick as one of our leading young talents returning to the A-League that bit too early (Like, arguably, if James Wesolowski were to return now?! :/)! But Arnie's experience better than nothing though, I guess - hopefully he get another chance to coach in NE Asia, before his coaching career is out.

Edited by GloryPerth: 24/5/2014 02:27:00 AM

The role of Technical Director is, if done properly, a potentially massive advantage for a football club.

The key is to accept that it is fundamentally as much a business administration role as it is a "technical" role (technical in the sense of treating football as a scientific or technical endeavour).

Basically... the Technical Director should be overseeing the entire performance of the football department, including coaches, players and all other support staff. They should basically be the representative of the board to ensure the performance requirements of the football department are being met.

To make a simple analogy, if you were running some kind of workshop, maintenance team, manufacturing facility, etc. you would have your shopfloor crew/s... these are the players. Then you might have your leading hand... this is your captain. Then you have your foreman... this is the coach. Above that, you might have something like an Operations Manager... THIS is your Technical Director. He needs to know how the whole thing works, but he also needs to be able to report and manage long-term performance to the "upstairs" of the business. He needs to measure performance and manage expenditure on the technical department (including salaries, transfers, etc.)

Ironically... I think Alistair Edwards might've made an excellent TD in this sense of the role.

If Glory wanted to get out of their continual short-term cycle of squad overhauls with each change of coach and continual imbalance between senior and young players in the squad, they would appoint a Technical Director. He would be largely kept out of the public eye, because as fans half of us would inherently disagree with his decisions and be calling for his head all the time. But he would be THE man for the club deciding how we build our squad, how our coaches are measured and appointed, how we spend our money and most importantly how we measure success and failure of the teams on the pitch (from deciding whether finishing 5th and winning a couple of finals is a good season for the first team to deciding whether it matters that the NPL team loses 5-0 if it gives us a chance to play young stars in roles where they can practice our chosen game-style against seasoned adults in preparation for making their way into the first-team).


But, unfortunately, someone like this is never likely to be appointed with Tony Sage owning the club because it would take away Tony Sage's chances to make his own ill-informed decisions to suit his own ego. "Technical Director says Gallas is too old, injury prone and expensive to contribute significantly to the team? But he's a superstar and he'll give us international exposure! Sign him anyway!!!"

That's a great insight and all...but what has it got to do with Naven being NPL TD and the validity of said role?

Nothing directly as such... except that there is potential for the club to significantly reorganise their structure rather than just create a job for a former player to conform to an external requirement.

ALL the coaches throughout the Glory senior and Glory NPL programmes could, in theory, be managed and monitored by an overarching senior figure within the club management structure. Instead, it is a case of finding someone with an appropriate name (i.e. that of a former player) and giving them a job, and (I presume) having no criteria or direction for that person other than to get on with everyone else important or bugger off so someone else can have the job.

Just re-reading ATE's updated 'Player Contracts' list and it seems the only player we're still to decide on is our one and only Marquee, Gallas!

What IS 'the-go' there?! Is he going, staying, an offer on the table with reduced terms...??? :?

Fair enough but from what we've seen, don't think it's realistic for Glory under Sage.

Remember Mitchell?

As I said... it will never suit a club where the owner is in it for their own ego. Glory is such a club.

In any case, Mitchell was not the right sort of person to fill the role. The TD needs to be someone who can be "the boss" when dealing with players and particularly the coach, but at the same time be "hands off" enough to let those people do their job in the required manner.

This is where I think Alistair Edwards, as a former player and coach within the FFA structure as well as a trained business administrator could've done a really good job... and at the same time would've been far enough removed from the playing squad to avoid the personality conflicts that in the end derailed his tenure.

The FFA Cup

http://www.pursuitofthecupau.com/#!howitworks/c4nz

Was trying to catch up with this and understand how it works for Glory.
[Good news is it looks like we were never destined to get knocked out by the likes of South Waroona under 13's or similar in the 1st round which had been my greatest fear]

Website says WA is down to the last 4 (Joondalup, Stirling, Subiaco, Bayswater) who play on 2nd June, with the 2 winners being WA's qualifiers in the 'Pot C' of 22 Australia wide qualifiers.
[Victoria get 4 qualifiers from their 190 clubs who entered, while NSW only get 7 qualifiers from their 100 clubs who entered, etc, but don't go there].

The 10 A League clubs [Pot A = 4 semi-finalists] and [Pot B = 6 also-rans] are then added, and the Round of 32 commences.

The Round of 32 has the Pot A teams playing a Pot C team, and the remaining Pot C teams play others within that Pot.
Us 6 also-rans in Pot B play each other, thereby getting rid of 3 immediately.
At the same time, at a minimum, 9 of the Pot C teams would progress to the next 16.

Do we assume that the 6 also-rans are listed in there Ladder position, making Glory B4?
Is there any further draws for venue, who plays at home, etc?

If not, then is it just Newcastle play Glory in Newcastle on Tuesday 12 August.
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Edited by shanagar: 26/5/2014 02:29:59 PM

I think it's a random draw.

First team selected from the pot for the fixture is the home team whilst the second team is the away team.

This for Pot B v Pot B and Pot C v Pot C.

I think it's Pot C at home to a Pot A team in the round of 32.

That way non-A League club's travel is kept to a minimum.

Edited by hotrod: 26/5/2014 03:14:04 PM

Thanks hotrod.

So a 50/50 chance we'll get a Home match 1st up - while my conspiracy theorist mate is tipping an away trip to our traditional, nearest neighbour, long time derby rivals, the Kiwis.

Perth Glory interested in Andy Keogh, apparently.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2639672/Andy-Keogh-targeted-Australian-Perth-Glory-release-Millwall.html

Another winger/striker. ](*,)

With a goal scoring rate like that, he'll suit Glory perfectly.

Also, he's from Ireland, so that's near enough to the UK.

Ticks all the boxes.

Sign him, quick.

EDIT: Lowe was AssMan to Mitchell in 2009 when Glory play Wolves. Must have had a crush on him back then. :oops:

Edited by hotrod: 27/5/2014 11:05:08 AM

Surprised no one has noticed that we've signed Diogo Ferreira from Brisbane Roar for two years. There was a members email sent out.

Members email - we have signed 24 year old defensive midfielder Diogo Ferreira from Brisbane Roar on a 2 year deal.

Moves Brandon O'Neill back down the pecking order I guess.

W.....T.....F?

No idea where we're heading ... this guy says he's happy coming to us because in part he 'likes our coaching structures'?
Didn't know they've even been sorted?
Will this mean Gallas would officially be a No, 'cause surely we can't fit anymore defenders into our squad.

Fox claiming he's a direct replacement for Burns but we have Griffiths for that. If anything if he's going to play then he's going to be in that CM position, in which case I don't think he's any improvement on Edwards and if he is at DM then where the fuck does that leave O'Neill?

4 seasons at Glory and never gotten a proper chance at his preferred position...that would be ironic.

edit: added an inappropriate 'A' to the position he'd play

Edited by andytoddselbow: 27/5/2014 02:35:06 PM

More likely that he will be competing with O'Neill for a midfield spot in starting XI, with Griffiths a definite and Nebo, De Silva, hopefully a new creative midfielder and maybe even Hersi competing for #10 spot. Cameron Edwards at LRO (left right out)

Glory love their british islanders, not that surprising though, I imagine a large chunk of Glory's fan base are british isles born.

I think I remember an article from 2000 saying 40% were English or something.

Edited by iridium1010: 27/5/2014 01:57:01 PM

Not possible, the nux play all their cup games in Australia. If anything, that's probably the best draw Glory can get.

Didn't mean he's competing for the #10 again DDS etc, it's the #8 role, CM (not CAM, my mistake) where since McGarry left the only person Glory have there is Edwards. Sure, BON could play there, in the same way Burns did to accommodate Rostyn, but he'll still be a defensive mid.

hopefully we will sign a real #10

And the way they are going it seems that it is the way its going to stay in the old days we had a mixture of all nations going to games not so much now had a lot more italians and slavs etc but i reckon they are pissed of on the coaches and players that have been mostley brittish and certainly havent set the world on fire especially the coaches weve had in Sages time .
When Tana took over he said he was going to get rid of the ethnics squoblings and bring us all together which he did and as i see it now it seems to be very brittish oriantated and is not helping the progrese of this club at all when will they learn.

What scares me is that Brisbane Roar's Mulvey may just be wanting to pull in the same direction. It would be the beginning of the end if that is the case.

Yes, but I fear with Nebo already here a new one would only affect DDS' gametime and that's the last thing we want. Would be nice for him to have a couple of games to showcase his stuff before leaving.

On the subject of De Silva, noticed that any official news about his Roma move as been strangely quiet. He was meant to have been signed, but we've no information yet that it has been a done deal.