Well with the friendlies starting in a couple of weeks its looks to be a bumper year in the 2010 NSW Premier League.

South Coast Wolves - future b-league side now playing out of win stadium, have a massive major sponsors, reconnecting with the community and looking for big crowds

Sydney Olympic FC - "The Revolution" as they are calling it at the club is on with the club looking to bring back all their old supportters back to the games, massive entertainement is planned, a strong board, their facebook page has over 2,500 members and hoping for a bumper crowd of over 5000 for the first home game versus Sydney United at the faboulous Belmore Sports Ground. Definately one side for the b-league for the b-league to be a success

Bonnyrigg White Eagles - The big spenders looking for crowds around 2,000 playing in a melting pot of a stadium , Brad Boardman, Bomer Brown the coach wanting to bring home the titles.

Sydney United FC - Strong squad retained from last year, Milicic gone to the heart, still not connecting with their old fans well see what happnes donw at Edensor Pakr another B-league hoepfull.

Manly United FC - if they could capture the northenr beaches as they have the administration and the facilities could give football another hot spot!

Sutherland - In the same boat as manly need to capture the hearts of the shire a quality marketing manager is in order.

Bankstown - With Peter Tsekenis as coach will alwasy be competitive suprising he hasnt been hit up for an a-league assistant role. Crowds of around 850.

Rockdale Ilinden - Playing out of OKI Jubilee hoping for big crowds of over 1,000 recruitment has been slow back to regulation is my bet.

Blacktown Demons - Poor crowds, indiferent squad most boring team in the comp.

West Sydney Berries - In the same boat as Blacktown

Marconi - Top class facilities, Top class players and coaches, good funding but no supportters

APIA - PLaying out of Leichhardt Oval, will battle for regulation along with rockdale


Your thoughts?

Blacktown have always been a strong contender, the richest history of any NSW club featuring the likes of sir bobby Charlton. Now that funds and stadium issues are under control they will step back up to where they rightfully belong. Also where the Rovers will begin their poaching.

Rockdale will be interesting to see but I cant see a large turn out from them in either the game or fan stakes.

United, Olympic, BWE and Marconi to step back up with regular fans since the rovers have kick started [peoples passion in the west for football and always entertaining (United and BWE to go toe to toe again and both end up relegated) the rest are the rest. no fans mediocire football and always good to make up the numbers.


See you all at Lilly holmes Stadium aka Gabbie

It will be interesting to see what crowds these clubs do get. If Sydney United get crowds of 5000 then they are on par with HAL's GCU?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck with the rovers thingy my mate, Olympic, Bonny, Sutho, Wollongong to have large crowds watch this space!

Sydney Olympic now has an official fan group called the "Olympic Ultras" massive recruitment is happenign with all the talk in the local streets of Belmore, Earlwood, St George Area being about Olympic revolution.

Belmore Sports Ground well be going off this season.

If you have not heard get on facebook.

Gaurantee Blacktown well not make the semis and will not get a bigger crowd than 500 at the home games.

What's your idea of massive recruitment?
What's your idea of big crowds?

ForestMan, big crowds when you have no media whatsoever is anything over 2000 people.

When interent sites, newspapers television the governing body no one promotes the game under the a-league a crowd of over 2000 is massive!

So when teams like wollongong & Olympic reach crowds over that with no media imagine what they can do with it?

Should au.fourfourtwo.com not be doing match reports and match previews on the NSW Premier league its the second biggest competition in the country i thought that is what a website liek this is for? Promoting and talking about the game? correct me if im wrong

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[pS]=1256994000&tx_ttnews[pL]=2591999&tx_ttnews[arc]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3117&tx_ttnews[backPid]=455&cHash=142e6866df

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3159&tx_ttnews[backPid]=78&cHash=1df992aa92

http://www.sydneyolympicfc.com/content/view/221/1/ ( Sydney FC only has 1500 members on their facebook group)

Blacktown will be very please to get 500 through the gates. Just remember for all your recruitment you have to travel to be an Ultra.

Will be great to see the old Olympic Army at it again. Back in the NSL they were quite good.

recruitment means getting in touch with old fans

You're wrong.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/newslist.aspx?CIaNCID=79

The average crowds in state league games are something between 100 and 700 people.

Anyone who disagrees with that, doesn't attend state league games.

Go and have a look. Attend a game. It'll be an eye-opener for you.

and usually on time too. This was the reason i first started coming to 442 in the first place.

BCD 2148

And you'll get to have some great curry and chips, or polish sausage, or a kebab, plus some full strength beer- all at a great price!

I like my state league games. You buy stuff from there, you know you're helping your club... I just wish the same was true of the A-League :(

One article a month is not considered coverage guys.

In a month of the a-league their is probably what over 100 articles or so and the second division of the country gets 1 articles a month? is that right?

How do you then expect the game to progress?

I agree with yoru figues of 100 - 700

But lats year olympic had from 500 - 1800 so your figures arent exactly right.

Yeah, but he was talking about the average crowd. Olympic aren't really your run-of-the-mill state league team. There'll be shitty teams with shitty crowds to balance them out.

F1 DAVE what do perth state league teams average

*Patience running thin.*

No, you are still wrong.

You wanted a preview and review of each round. Look at that link. Aha! A preview and review of each round.

i personally do not care about what paoktzi is saying .. i do believe though that his threads belong in the "Grass Roots Football" forum

Don't have a heart attack over it!!! The Mods will move it if they deem it necessary.

moderate read the posts sir.

1 - how can you call first grade squads grass roots? are you feeling ok?

2 - a match preview of the big games and match reviews of the big games not a weekly preview and round up from footballnsw website? that is not journalism thats copy the link? surely fourfourtwo is not that busy in the a-league offseason?

If you ban me for the post than so be it but it is a fair call, shows you have no respect for your readers and their opinions

Grand final between Perth SC and Western Knights saw a touch under 2000 attend. That's a decent crowd though owing it to being a big game- grand final and all.

Typical crowd at my local club (ECU Joondalup) would probably be approx 200? 300?

Someone like Perth SC would get more, but other teams would get less.

i cant believe people actually think that these teams should be in the b-league.

the b-league should be franchised in the same way as the a-league. only way it would work.

sorry to burst your bubble. but these teams deserve 4th level of the future australian pyramid at best.

what my friend you can honestly say the a-league os working?

brisbane, adelaide owned by the ffa, north queensland backer walks

the rovers dont have a backer

poor crowds across the board well see who walks next??

o media coverage apart from fox, are you joking now are what?

this is a serious post and factual, love to see what you all have to say.

I love how you all take offence to these post but when someone says teams that have 52 plus years of history and have built football in this country deserve to be in the 4th division is not a football fan

The NSWPL is a corrupt league

please read my comment here -

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23049


tell me what you think?

i would like to hear.

Edited by Blackmac79: 3/12/2009 07:11:38 PM

Edited by Blackmac79: 3/12/2009 07:12:57 PM

I think looking at the average crowds for the 2009 NSWPL season was about 500-1k depending on whose playing.

Teams like Manly United and (then Wollongong Community Football club, now South Coast United) got regualar crowds of approx. 500, although Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Bonnyrigg always used to pull a decent crowd.

A westie would say it's down to West Sydney being the epicenter of football in this country, but i'd put a tenner on the fact that the "ethnics" who currently root for Olympic and United, and all those Ethnic based teams won't suddenly jump up and start supporting rovers.

Well if Rovers go out and show these 'ethnics' that they are a club for the community like they will then they will get the old NSL supporters on board.

i look forward to the rovers. more games for the jets close to home

watch blacktown. we will make the semis. genc is back. our staduim issue is solved, as with our financial issues. yes we may get crowds around 200-300 but watch us. your selling us very short mate

think i will be going to blacktown games this season.

Yeah, but i can't see all the Croats, Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, etc etc etc etc etc who live out ------> that way all suddenly coming together and Uniting under the one team, with a cup of tea, and a quick sorry and pat on the back.

sure not all will, but some will.

its the new generation of these peoples who have come together.

this is how i think the ladder will look at the end of the season
1. manly
2. sutherland
3. bonnyrigg
4. sydney united
5. blacktown
6. sydney olympic
7. marconi
8. bankstown
9. APIA
10. west sydney
11. south coast
12. rockdale

winner of tiger turf cup: final will be bonnyrigg vs olympic. olympic to win it

rockdale to get relegated, with Parramatta Melita geting promoted

I agree to a point.

I do go to the occassional state league top of the table game too and I do enjoy my 2 souvlakis and a few cold beers while I'm there.

But you are talking to the converted and I think I'm also talking to the converted by the sound of it.

What about the uncorverted though? How is this game going to attract new fans to the state leagues while the overwhelming impression out there among the existing A-League followers is that state league soccer, after 5 years of the A-League revolution, is still mono-ethnic club soccer? How are we going to entice them to come to the games? By tempting them with tasty souvlaki, great polish sausage, kebabs and hot chips?

How is it ok for me or anybody else like me to express delight at the pleasure I get out of the spicy snacks and cold drinks I enjoy at state league games when I know deep inside that the reason there's only 200 people at the game is because fans of a nationality other than that of the club I follow feel excluded and won't come?

I look around me mate, I see the same old faces I have been seing all my life at these sort of games, people of the same nationality as me and my state league team and I feel sad this type of mono-ethnic soccer is still promoted in 2009 like it's a good thing for our game and its future.

And then we'll turn around again in a few weeks time and blame everybody else for the shambles the state leagues are in except the real culprit.

It's really sad.

Most Croats and Serbs get along anyway most went to school together it's just the minority that think they have to hate each other because of their nationalities and therefore everyone thinks us Croats and Serbs all hate each other.

TBH, I just think that people don't go to the state leagues because it's not 'the best'. For the same reason many aussies don't go to the A-League because it's not the EPL.

I took some mates down to an ECU match or two, and they liked their chips and gravy and whatnot, but at the end of the day they didn't come back because "it's shit".

Now, I don't agree with that, but then again I'm a lover of the game no matter what level. I'd watch (and will watch, soon enough) Conference matches in the UK if they were on near me.

State leagues suffer the same affliction that the WAFL, the Skywest Basketball League, and the WACA Grade Cricket League suffer over here. As far as I'm concerned (in WA anyway) it's not mono-ethnic cultures that are keeping people away from the 2nd tier matches... it's the fact that they're second tier matches!

WACA attendance for the Aussies v South Africa in a one-dayer? ~20,000 people.
WACA attendance for WA vs Victoria in a one-dayer? ~2,000 if you're lucky
WACA Smokefree League attendance? Maybe 50 plus some officials?

Well :-k...they do say a photo says a thousand words...







I'm not trying to shitstir, but it'd be awful if state league football once more turned into scenes like the old NSL...:?

That's only a minority though. Most of the oldies get along go too the club together. Most of the young ones get along it's just the small group that think they are fucking heroes and have to hate each other. The two countries get along now aswell.

Plus that doesn't happen in the state league because the two sets of fans are locked out because the NSW Police and Football NSW want too seem like they are being safe when it's just stupid.

Is that were the kicked in the chest video came from?

wollongong only got 150-200 to there home games last year

sutho averaged 800-1000 per home game

Correct me if I am wrong but they look like the fights from the tennis a couple of years back.....


Team     Hosted    Average    Highest    Lowest    Total
Sydney Olympic FC    12    859     1,763     350    10,313

love your photos unfortunately their not from football matches.

Massive propaganda buddy

comp is looking good

Milicic coach of sydney united

Heineken what dodgey evidence you show. You may as well show the Cronulla riots and say that all Aussies hate "wogs" and whenever they are in the vicinity of eachother there is violence.

Carry on about the NSWPL rather than these tired old arguments about nothing.

nope. its zdrilic. he was just appointed. not suprising really.
http://www.footballnsw.com/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3180&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=1abfd5e5b8

also interesting to note his player/manager. nothing new with the NSWPL but juts curious to see how he goes.

Edited by mltezr: 4/12/2009 01:19:07 PM

yes yes my error

Milicic is now one of the Melb Heart assistant coaches.

PAOKTZI

make sure u let me noe exactly what date the OLympic V united game is on yee
ill be there for sure :D
been following united for 14 years, since i was 2 :)

ITS round two buddy going to be a massive derby!!!

over 5000 expect olympic has their shit in order now and were talking to united all the time to make things work for both clubs as we are giants of the game in this country and deserve better treatment than were getting.

Olympic now has an official supportters group that will rival the cove and were calling all our old supportters back and "THE REVOLUTION" is on Olympic is back

Spread the word sydney united its time to wake up yoru old supportters now!!!

Round two going to be a massive crowd well see what fourfourtwo does for the game?

haha we going to have to hear TOB saying it was a shit game shit quality who cares, and most of his 442 counterparts, but u and me and about 6000 other ppl noe it is one of australias only true footbal derbies :D

cant wait

and dont hold your breath about 442, there most probly wont even get a mention

fourfourtwo australia's racist soccer website!

Now you're just being a dickhead. Bye.

kevin didnt have to go that far

but a big LOL at PAOKTZI :L

lol:lol: =d> :lol: =d> you gave him enough chances

kevin just said what alot of people were thinking=;

He just worked himself up for no good reason. I get that the NSWPL holds are real significants to many including mysels but it is not the be all and end all of Australian Football.

Lets hope they and SMFC make it to the Be league.

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3188&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=65d83893f4


GET READY FOR MASSIVE CROWDS FROM BONNYRIGG THIS YEAR

THE OFFICIAL SYDNEY OLYMPIC YOU TUBE CHANNEL

http://www.youtube.com/sydneyolympic1957

Hey mate, couple of points...

When you've got long URLs like that, they won't display properly on here because of the square brackets. Instead, take them to www.tinyurl.com, paste them in the text box, click "Make Tiny URL" and he presto, you end up with:

http://tinyurl.com/yzw9zg4

Which links to the story just fine.

Also, try not to 'speak' all in caps...

sorry bout the caps but im a passionate physcho

Sorry, we never actually figured that out...:roll:

Pes ta Paoktzi.

sad really - the state of the game in Australia - how sad is it - well let's look at it this way

Q. How do you double state league Crowds???
A. Play In summer

Q. How do you halve A-League Crowds???
A. Play in winter

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Olympic youth played Sydney United youth on sunday.

No loses for olympic

big wins for:

Under 13's olympic 7 - 2 sydney united
Under 14's olympic 2 - 1 sydnye united
Under 15's olympic 4 - 0 sydney united
Under 16's olympic 1 - 1 sydney united
Under 18's olympic 2 -2 sydney united

olympic is back get ready for a bumper season!!!!

ALSO waiting on a FFT article on the massive frinedly between olympic and bonnyrigg on the weekend

This thread is still going!!

It will keep going as long as there is a State league to talk about.

And when there is not there will be a new thread Bring back the state league.

As long as there is Blacktown City to talk about there will be a tread to do it in!

Are you sure you dont want to apply for a 442 post?

hahaha love it

BOOM!!!!

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3193&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=02fd7c1f3c

Friendly worth checking out

Blacktown City FC v APIA Leichhardt Tigers - Lily Homes Stadium - 7pm january 30th

Adam Biddly has also resigned according to the Blacktown Advocate.

Now that we have a new owner I hope he gets the website going and gets some advertising happening. looks like a lot of Saturday evening action to look forwrd to.

Edited by Rocknerd: 8/12/2009 03:22:52 PM

Blakctown couldtn get over 1000 people if they were offering free beer to their games

and so.................

What is your point????

At least they are getting people to the games. For a club with little support we still out class you in club history and Trophies won.

Once again Sir Bobby Charlton (the Manchester United Legend for those who are daft) played For Blacktown.

Support will build again for Blacktown just as soon as we get going again.

Over the last few months we have finally got a new owner and manager of Gabbie now Lilly homes Stadium. The Owner has also taken over the club and is in the process of rebuilding the resaurant and giving the club a face lift.


You Have your revolution, well ours is coming, its just going to take a little longer.

yeah we have 4 friendlies iirc.
one against manly, syd united, apia and spirit fc. all on saturday afternoons and all at home, except for the syd united game. so will be a good chance to see the team

http://blacktown-advocate.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/photos-best-players-in-premier-league-call-blacktown-home/

im telling you we will have a very strong team this year and will cause alot of teams problems

Edited by mltezr: 8/12/2009 04:37:29 PM

blacktown to be in the regulation zone

genc is not a coach

I'll try and get along to a couple of Leichhardt games at Leichhardt Oval. But Balmain FC will be in the Premier League in a few years. Were currently 2 div lower in State League 1, but we've moved 6 divisions in like 8 years.

Not bad for a semi-proffesional coach.

Really???

Then how did he win coach of the year in 2007 bringing BCD the Premiership and guiding the team to win the Grand Final as well???


You are clearly blinded by the Blue Tint in your glasses.

just wait for it buddy

Wait for what????

Is SO "IT" is that what we are waiting for???

comments like that just show stupidity.

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3194&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=56ee962273

Edited by PAOKTZI: 9/12/2009 12:19:00 PM

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3194&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=56ee962273

Edited by PAOKTZI: 9/12/2009 12:18:42 PM

Did APIA lose against Dulwich Hill? If not when is the friendly on?

I dont know about the APIA game but if you look at 2nd line all is explained.

Peter Zorbas - sydney united
Paul O'Grady - APIA
Vass - APIA

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3215&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=90dcfadc39

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3205&tx_ttnews[backPid]=389&cHash=a2d87cde68

Sydney United have also signed Sean Mitchell, Shane Lyonsand Michael Cindric(former Olympic defender:p :p )

Also Ivo Bosnar, Mitchell Thompson, Vedran Janjetovic, Elsid Barkhousir, Ricky Perinich, Roger Galayini, Peter Markovic, Luka Glavas, Todd Brodie and Daniel Rezo have all signed new deals.

Looks to be a good season.

rockdale 1 - 1 olympic

rockdale is ripe for the wooden spoon mark my words, useless

olympic played with their 20's

dont write rockdale off

did melita end up getting promoted or were they disallowed ?


coz they would be a team to watch

dont write them off based on what players they have?

rockdale got promote and penrith relegated the rest the same

I thought Sydney FC were agreeing a deal with Janjetovic to replace Bolton if he does defect to Melbourne or go to Asia. It'd make sence as he was the Sydney FC #1 Youth Keeper last season.

As seen in the Blacktown Advocate http://blacktown-advocate.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/goodbye-blacktown-demons-hello-blacktown-fc

Is Matt Mayora still playing for Sydney Olympic?

I know he had an unsucsessful spell in Indonesia where he came close to signing for several clubs. But haven't hear a squeak outta him yet.

Well those players have only signed one year deals so depends what happens after this season. Weather he goes to Sydney FC or waits for Rovers:p

You gonna come to the SFC V MV game on Valantines? Or do you currently have a missus to look after?

At this point in time ill be there.

If I didn't know any better I'd think he was asking you out! Suttle but effective approach used by Heineken there.

=; I think you're mistaking me for Socceroos_Fan, :lol:. And there's nothing wrong about a couple of guys going to the football together is there 8-[

I think its referred to as a Man-Date. you don't have to screw but you are required to pay for a few drinks.