FFV To Probe Bob Jane Fracas [FFT Article]


FFV To Probe Bob Jane Fracas [FFT Article]

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Edited by chris: 15/4/2010 03:46:37 PM
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Welcome aboard Guest - all we have to do is remove that black and white heart of yours and you'll be a thoroughly useful member of society.

Oh, I forgot, you want to be a lawyer - better get rid of that as well.

;)

Edited by Benjamin: 15/4/2010 09:26:56 AM
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Hell I have a SMFC membership and I am not Greek.
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skinet wrote:
How can you make such an an outrageous demographic assessment? Did you count them? Who or What were the other 2000 non greeks at the game, gremlins or bitalonians?


why are people so scared when someone mentions that people without greek heritage watch smfc

for starters their were 300 juniors there on the day all of a wide range of backgrounds with their parents, grandparents or guardians

guys its ok - you can refer to south as a club trying to appeal to a broader audience - please don't be afraid

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chris wrote:

TOB's fuck off - you're just a nuisance - the stat that bothers you the most was the attendance 4,000 - I reckon 2,000 were greek, meaning the other 2,000 were non greek

must feel like a dagger in the heart for you


I reckon they were 99.9% Australian citizens.
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How can you make such an an outrageous demographic assessment? Did you count them? Who or What were the other 2000 non greeks at the game, gremlins or bitalonians?
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ton.of.bricks wrote:
southmelb wrote:
im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron.

benjamin, look.

I don't really give 2 fucks if you have the power to ban me because of what I have to say.

I have gone past caring of what you can do now that u are a moderator.

I'm fucking accusing you of using multiple aliases, including every single fucking one that has south melb in it.

Since I accused you of being johny fucking come lately that name disappeared.

Tonight you and your fucking agenda is fucked for ever.

Keep drumming up support for your agenda to fuck the A-League by lobbying for SMFC to be included in the A-League, the fucking B-League or the fucking FA Cup.

Do whatever you want to me. Edit me. Ban me. Fuck me. I don't care.

But someone up there you fucking ass is looking after our sport and what has been achieved in australian football in the last 6 years and you can't change it whether I'm here in this forum to fight you or not. Your agenda is fucked.


TOB's fuck off - you're just a nuisance - the stat that bothers you the most was the attendance 4,000 - I reckon 2,000 were greek, meaning the other 2,000 were non greek

must feel like a dagger in the heart for you
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ton.of.bricks wrote:
What a shame, what a shame, what a shame.

And as predicably expected, benjamin and his troupe will come on this forum now and excuse and defend the indefensible.

What a shame.

A South Melbourne home game between 2 clubs of the same cultural background was abandoned because of crowd bad behaviour.

What a shame, what a disgrace and what an embarrassment to those working hard at FFA headquarters to convince the sporting public of Australia our game has put all this despicable shit behind it for good.

Hang your heads in shame you bastards.



you're a chammpion - if ever there was a person determined to destroy a club - even if it meant damaging the game in the process - your it

Don't worry TOB's there will be firm action from the club as a result of this
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Clinton wrote:


It is just so frustrating that a club that knows it and its supporters are under so much scrutiny still has this sort of behaviour. I think most supporters at all levels want a cup competiton and also a second divison but as long as this sort of shit keeps happening it just won't be possible.



Just think how the SMFC Club Committee feel and how supporters like myself feel who try to do the right thing. With 3,000 crowd and 10 or so idiots wreck it for us all.

Hopefully they are banned for life, hopefully we can all get over the bull shit stereotyping as pointed out by sydneycroatia58 and keysor
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Clinton wrote:
The fans of some of these old clubs remind me of Chopper Reid the way they snap and can't control their emotions. 99 times out of 100 these 3 fans wouldn't even consider acting the way they did but every now and again they do just snap and embarrass everyone who supports football in this country. Even though this a minority there is still hundreds of fans at these clubs that could at some point just snap, be overcome with emotion and do something crazy.

What will happen if you came into the A-league and all the hardcore people who don't currently attend come to the games, it would be a ticking timebomb. Sorry Jimmy your going to have to settle for the state leagues


So is it only fans of ethnic clubs that have the potential to 'snap' as you called it. You are sar far from the mark it's funny. You act as if there is Jo crowd trouble in the A-League and all it's supporter are fuckig angels. Where the fuck do you get off claiming that most of the fans at 'these' clubs could snap
and become crazy and violent.

And people wonder why fans of the old NSL clubs hate the A-League and it's fans so much. It's the assumption that all these effniks are crazy and just a timebomb waiting to go off. It's that stereotyping that pisses us fans of the old NSL right off.


Edited by sydneycroatia58: 14/4/2010 12:34:58 AM


Your right I over reacted out of frustration when I read the article, we have these people that can't control themselves at A-league clubs as well, just not as many and they are better controlled by both their peers and security.

It is just so frustrating that a club that knows it and its supporters are under so much scrutiny still has this sort of behaviour. I think most supporters at all levels want a cup competiton and also a second divison but as long as this sort of shit keeps happening it just won't be possible.

Seeing the posts from a few of the supporters of the old clubs they seem to condone this sort of behaviour by saying that it is just passion, this minority needs to be shut out of these clubs or there will continue to be problems.
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well said keysor.
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RedEyeRob wrote:
sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Edensor2176 wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.


Great post.


+ 1=d> =d> =d>


+2


And another.

Side by side.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Edensor2176 wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.


Great post.


+ 1=d> =d> =d>


+2

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Edensor2176 wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.


Great post.


+ 1=d> =d> =d>
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OzHammer wrote:
I agree with VicenzoGold these clowns are destroying our game, specially as Pro AFL/NRL media are circling to take a bite every time somthing like this happens


So where was this reported in the local press? Nowhere. ](*,)
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.


Great post.
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Shouldn't have given away all those free tickets to the game! ;)
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haha need more of this and less hatamoto BS!!
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Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.

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General Ashnak wrote:
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so when sydney fc fans went and smashed a pub in melbourne everything is ok with that????

and they deserve to be in the a-league stop it now

if you people are football people you will stop with the crap

and i must say FFT im disgusted as a football fan to see ur website is the only one reporting this about the game

and i have spoken to people from smfc who have explained fft was not at the game so please explain this

Weren't you banned solympic?


And he is again.
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Thank god the FFA didn't except Sth Melbourne bid to join the A-League. Fucking losers have hammered the last nail into the SM coffin. Well done you boys!!! I hope you are proud!!
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I was joking (a little bit).Now let's be serious:you can't ban so harsh a club because of a small minority of the fans.
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Olympic1957 wrote:
so when sydney fc fans went and smashed a pub in melbourne everything is ok with that????

and they deserve to be in the a-league stop it now

if you people are football people you will stop with the crap

and i must say FFT im disgusted as a football fan to see ur website is the only one reporting this about the game

and i have spoken to people from smfc who have explained fft was not at the game so please explain this

Weren't you banned solympic?

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so when sydney fc fans went and smashed a pub in melbourne everything is ok with that????

and they deserve to be in the a-league stop it now

if you people are football people you will stop with the crap

and i must say FFT im disgusted as a football fan to see ur website is the only one reporting this about the game

and i have spoken to people from smfc who have explained fft was not at the game so please explain this
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Krijoz said:''Stupid Greeks!!!
Kick them out of Football Federation Victoria and send them to Singapore?
Pathetic morons!!!''

Mate,they aren't stupid.They're just typical greek football fans and that was nothing:just check videos from greek football games :D
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The fact is that everytime someone does something like this at an old "ethnic" club, all the old jealousies and stigmas will resurface. If you are an "ethnic" club, surely people will, rightly or wrongly, understand that. If it was an A League game, the media will just call them soccer hooligans. If its South, or Sydney United, or Bonnyrigg etc, it takes on the racial slant.
Not saying its right, but thats the way it is.
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General Ashnak wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Is that the Crawford Report which explicitely called for an independant national competition, run completely separately from the governing body?

Good that everyone took notice of that isn't it?


Thankfully due to us being part of the AFC we are required to have this become a reality due to our desire to continue participating in the ACL!


We're also required to have a system for promotion/relegation, I can't see that happening too soon.

I suspect that there will be a lot of fiddling with structures to find a way that the FFA can maintain control of the A-League whilst it 'appears' to be an independant competition - but the situation with Archie Fraser and Ben Buckley this week demonstrates clearly that there is currently no division between the two entities what-so-ever.
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Benjamin wrote:
roy law wrote:
:)The package was empty only if you don't embrace the change in football brought about by the Crawford Report. It was full of promise for me...


Is that the Crawford Report which explicitely called for an independant national competition, run completely separately from the governing body?

Good that everyone took notice of that isn't it?

Thankfully due to us being part of the AFC we are required to have this become a reality due to our desire to continue participating in the ACL!

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roy law wrote:
:)The package was empty only if you don't embrace the change in football brought about by the Crawford Report. It was full of promise for me...


Is that the Crawford Report which explicitely called for an independant national competition, run completely separately from the governing body?

Good that everyone took notice of that isn't it?
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General Ashnak wrote:
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Was the package plastic and empty?

Ignore people trolling you Ben.


Nah, I was just having a bit of fun. I thought my response was pretty quick. ;)

There's no one on this forum that could post anything more upsetting to me than the site of those dickheads running onto the pitch - or of them trying to justify their actions as they were escorted from it.

As you said earlier, there's plenty of bother at A-league games - none of it worth discussing though because it's all "meh". Same with Sunday's incident - f*cking stupid behaviour, but no one was hurt and nothing was broken. The FFV will deal with the incident.
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