Morons.







What do you think about the FourFourTwo article FFV To Probe Bob Jane Fracas?
UPDATE: Football Federation Victoria has launched an official investigation into the abandonment of Sunday’s South Melbourne-Heidelberg United clash.

Have your say.

these people are killing our game

Bahaha no way south Melbourne ate getting into the A-League now. It's wonderful news. No ethnic club for the best team in the OFC. Congratulations you have destroyed yourselves.

Exactly why clubs like South Melbourne were NEVER going to be part of the A League.
These people aren't supporters, they're mugs.

The NSL killed the game years ago.

Stupid Greeks!!!
Kick them out of Football Federation Victoria and send them to Singapore?
Pathetic morons!!!

These morons are not fans! They are thugs who have no respect for the club or the game !

typical south melbourne supporters. these idiots should get banning orders for life

No excuses - the guys who jumped the fence and celebrated by the side of the pitch were idiots, the three tools who ran to the penalty area and had words with the keeper deserve to be forced to watch NRL for a few years.

The 3980 who weren't involved in the trouble, and who booed the pitch invaders, and the committee members who've worked near miracles over the last few months to raise the profile of the club (and who removed at least two memberships from the offending 'supporters'), will once again suffer due to the actions of a few idiots.

Sthmelb and HellasJohnny

Once again a large group of your clubs fans and officials have reinforced all the prejudices against ethnic soccer and undone all the good work. How f...ing boring is that!!.
Your club which is in its death throes anyway now should be removed permanently from the premier league and end this fiasco once and for all. If for no other reason than the club failing to control a section of its dysfunctional fans, attacking players and abusing and attacking linesman and officials which as you know are all major breaches of FFA Regulations. Your excuses for this behaviour, I dont want to hear there simply are none.

The reason why you don't hear as much about pitch invasions at HAL games is because the FFA/clubs spend thousands on security so there's loads of security and police personnel at games. But i see it all the time at Hindmarsh, MV fans jump the fence and head for the pitch but get picked up immediately because of tight security.

The FFV should invest more in stadium security... i'm assuming BJ Stadium has CCTV? Get their identities and ban them for life. Bit by bit, it will catch on amongst the other tossers when their mates can't get in anymore and they will learn quick. It needs to be done ASAP because all the club's hardwork (new stadium, Oceania award, SMFC TV, Singapore FA Cup etc) will be undone quickly. Much like the A-League has it's detractors from rival codes, these old NSL teams have their own detractors to deal with.

PS: my signature link has nothing to do with pitch invasions or this story! But check it out, still important reading!

Skinet, Your MV lot are by far the fucking worst of the lot! But i aint stupid enough to say "Ban Melbourne Victory from the HAL" for i know just as much as you, that's a stupid thing to say, just because a small minority has fkd it up for the rest of your members and fans.



Edited by redeyerob: 13/4/2010 04:29:02 PM

agree with redeye oh adelaide tonight FTW.

And they wonder why they're not in the A league

For the record - I've made it quite clear how upset I am by the idiotic behaviour of the pitch invadors - particularly the three who ran all the way to the box to verbally abuse the keeper.

However it must be made very clear - not one finger was laid on any of the Heidelberg players or the officials.

End of the day - no supporter should cross over onto the pitch, there's no excuse for it, so I'm not defending or condoning the idiots - but the facts should be clear.

As for the RedEye's comment about CCTV. Yep, it's there and the tapes are being checked. 2 memberships were cancelled in the clubrooms immediately after the game (including the clown who confronted the keeper).

A very helpful post from someone clearly in the know. Give this guy a medal, and let him take over for Archie Fraser because he is a GENIUS THAT KNOWS AND SEES EVERYTHING.

It's a real shame that South Melbourne farewelled their home in this way. I'm one of the biggest supporters of traditional football clubs in Australia but this is definitely a major backwards step at a time when South Melbourne were getting lots of positive media attention.

kiss good bye to the HAL.. well to be honest they were never going to get a ticket into the a-league.

"Stupid Greeks!!!
Kick them out of Football Federation Victoria and send them to Singapore?
Pathetic morons!!!"

I'm assuming some action is going to be taken against this post.Fair enough if you're disappointed in the antics of a select few fans as i am but there better be some consequences for the generalisations in that post.

first of all no officials or players were attacked lets make that perfectly clear, throwing out south melbourne is a bit extreme dont you think? do we throw out MV as well because they nailed a player in the head with a flare at the same venue? imo a far worse incident.

some of the opinions on this forum are downright scary such as "fcuk off greeks", im not even greek and i find that offensive, the biggest shame is the complete blowup of this incident, the only thing i'll accuse those people who ran on the field of is pure stupidity, im not gonna call them thugs or violent ppl because they never acted in that manner, if we are gonna start throwing out teams for jumping on the field to celebrate a goal well we may as well pack it up and quit, some of you posters should be ashamed of yourselves.

Edited by southmelb: 13/4/2010 05:58:16 PM

Calm down, just tongue in cheek banter... If the MV trouble makers are not as bad as AU trouble makers or SMFC trouble makers are worse than MV trouble makers... who really cares ey? Violence is violence? Right? Or are you one of those people that sees a strange difference between the "Ethnic violence" of the NSL and the current "Territorial violence" in the HAL??

And that was the point of my post... calling for a ban on SMFC from the VPL or justifying their absence from the HAL because of this is as "genius" as me or you calling for a ban on MV or AU clubs for all the trouble that has been caused between these 2 clubs.

"It just does not make sense!"
The Chewbacca Defense rests.

I agree with VicenzoGold these clowns are destroying our game, specially as Pro AFL/NRL media are circling to take a bite every time somthing like this happens

You're right. As a result of the post, South Melbourne will be changing their colours to distance themselves from Greek hooligan "fans" who are ruining the game for the rest of us.

but the fans that caused the actual trouble werent greek, now what?

One reason why we will never see the likes of south melbourne in a national league again. Good Riddance to them!!!

South was never gonna be in it anyway:oops:...and thats not the reason cos half the A league clubs would be kicked out as well.

What a shame, what a shame, what a shame.

And as predicably expected, benjamin and his troupe will come on this forum now and excuse and defend the indefensible.

What a shame.

A South Melbourne home game between 2 clubs of the same cultural background was abandoned because of crowd bad behaviour.

What a shame, what a disgrace and what an embarrassment to those working hard at FFA headquarters to convince the sporting public of Australia our game has put all this despicable shit behind it for good.

Hang your heads in shame you bastards.

TOB???

yeh what a bonus, it stops you from using the ethnic line! clubs being of the same background means nothing, especially nowadays when a lot of souths active support is non greek.

Read what I wrote:



Don't tell me what nationality they were you fucking football hater. I'm too upset on behalf of australian football to be listening to your crap tonight. Take your agenda with you and fuck off.

On the 'football hooliganism' scale I give sunday's incident a 1/10. No need to label it 'ethnic violence blah blah' just your typical organic low grade act of stupidity seen whenever MV plays Adelaide or Sydney...... A few clowns run onto the pitch to celebrate after a undeserved 91st min equaliser against the arch enemy Heidelberg at our last ever match at the old BJS, one fool gives their keeper some lip and cops a backhander, gets up and walks away with hands in the air .....It was more comedy than hard core violence. Shit like this shouldn't happen and can't be excused I realise, but every club in every league in every country has a few idiots that fuck it up for everyone.
Small scale celebratory pitch invasions are pretty common in the lower leagues, it's wrong but it happens and it's usually a case of immature teenage over exhuberance.

I feel sorry for the board and volunteers (all unpaid) at South who are doing a top job in strengthening the clubs future having to deal with this type of stupidity.

I make no excuses for sunday's incident. We'll simply have to cop it on the chin.

The 'fan' concerned has made full admission to the club and FFV. And no it wasn't me!!!!Too old for that sort of shit nowdays....

Yeh it probably fucked up our A-League chances completely now :roll:, from zero to zilch.
Still it's good to see people's venom and hostility at all things South.

How on earth is no problem when 3 wankers run onto pitch and try to assault a player mate!
How would you feel when 3 grown up man run towards you?
Would you just laugh at them or be scared?
I am pretty sure you would be shit scared when there have been ongoing violence between two clubs over the years.
Nobody is allowed to run onto pitch and assault anyone and you have rated the incident 1/10!
I think there is something wrong with you mate

im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron.

he wasnt assaulted and nobody attempted to assault him! the person mocked the keeper and the keeper retiliated by shoving him to the turf, 30 seconds later everyone was off the pitch, no kicks, punches, slaps and other rubbish that ppl have made up who werent even at the game.

I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.

This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.

indeed, but calling for the expulsion of the club as some have is silly.

you follow mv joffa, im sure you wouldnt like it if people put you in the same category as those victory fans that chucked flares aiming them at south players and hitting 1 in the head a few yrs ago would you? we are in the same situation, every club has undesireable fans.

Absolutely, every club has dickhead fans, and the actions of the few, whilst they obviously don't reflect the views of the club or the majority , they do tarnish all.

If this happened at MV I would condemn it as I would if it happened at any A-League club. I guess what we all need to understand is that these idiots are not people we want supporting our clubs...and if this type of behaviour is endemic to the State League in Victoria as some have suggested...it needs to be eradicated post haste.

The biggest problem that I see is that public consensus and discussion is now evolving towards the implementation of a second tier and a Cup comp. These types of incidents reinforce every ugly stereotype Football in Australia has had to endure.

As a sport we need to stop undermining ourselves to move forward. My biggest concern in reading some of the comments is that whist some have been over the top, each way, not all have been in condemnation of the incident.

Edited by Joffa: 13/4/2010 08:15:48 PM

i have condemned the incident from the moment it happened on sunday, i think everyone has, but i think the discussion needs a balance, as angry as i am at our fans, im sick of other ppl who most likely werent even at the game trying to make it out to be the biggest scandal ever, a bit of balance wouldnt go astray.

One hell of an own goal scored.
Security was non existent and unable to cope with any incident.
Shambles and disarray mixed with dismay.

Melbourne Knights next week!!!



Edited by oracle: 13/4/2010 08:35:50 PM

I agree.

benjamin, look.

I don't really give 2 fucks if you have the power to ban me because of what I have to say.

I have gone past caring of what you can do now that u are a moderator.

I'm fucking accusing you of using multiple aliases, including every single fucking one that has south melb in it.

Since I accused you of being johny fucking come lately that name disappeared.

Tonight you and your fucking agenda is fucked for ever.

Keep drumming up support for your agenda to fuck the A-League by lobbying for SMFC to be included in the A-League, the fucking B-League or the fucking FA Cup.

Do whatever you want to me. Edit me. Ban me. Fuck me. I don't care.

But someone up there you fucking ass is looking after our sport and what has been achieved in australian football in the last 6 years and you can't change it whether I'm here in this forum to fight you or not. Your agenda is fucked.

im not Benjamin:oops:

to be honest i hope he does ban you, wild accusations and you have been doing it for years.

I won't be banning you, I enjoy watching you continually making a fool of yourself.

*EDIT - for the record, I just checked and Johnny Come Lately's last post was 13 April 2010 10:14:21. That's... Erm... Today, isn't it?
So, as I say, continue to make a fool of yourself Tobby.

Edited by Benjamin: 13/4/2010 10:57:01 PM

Tip rat victory fans who weren't even at the game ready to stick the boot in at any chance. 10, 15 fans ran onto the pitch? 1 teased the keeper from a meter away, only to be confronted by the keeper, pushed over as he was backing away and kicked by a few heidelberg players. laser light was from a crazy heidelberg fan. Match is not officially abondoned as result still stands, ref blew for full time. investigation is under way.

Will the keeper face sanctions for pushing a fan? you guys make me sick, stupid kids who discovered the world game 5 years ago, no respect for what made soccer in this country, what produced your socceroos. Such bitter, jealousy and hate. At least at south we are members club, where as you morons are customers of a plastic franchise, owned by geoff lord the wanker. too many non football people in this A-league including you johnny come lately bandwagoners. Fuck you all

The fans of some of these old clubs remind me of Chopper Reid the way they snap and can't control their emotions. 99 times out of 100 these 3 fans wouldn't even consider acting the way they did but every now and again they do just snap and embarrass everyone who supports football in this country. Even though this a minority there is still hundreds of fans at these clubs that could at some point just snap, be overcome with emotion and do something crazy.

What will happen if you came into the A-league and all the hardcore people who don't currently attend come to the games, it would be a ticking timebomb. Sorry Jimmy your going to have to settle for the state leagues

wow suss much
ton.of.bricks has a point

He hasn't a clue, let alone a point.

The South Melbourne supporters he despises so much have all condemned those who invaded the pitch.

He's been told several times that his allegations of multi-posting are incorrect - by moderators other than me (although I suspect he probably thinks those moderators are my multis).

I'm a south fan who's gotten 100% behind the a-league n melb victory but this xenophobic, ignorant bullshit by losers who became fans after the world cup taking a claim on the game in this country make me fucking sick. Sick of this shit

So to sum it all up:

- Effniks are bad
- Effniks have destroyed football
- Effniks are at fault for global warming

Edensor, important one you missed...

- No non-Effnik has ever jumped the fence, ever, at a sporting event in Australia. EVER.

So is it only fans of ethnic clubs that have the potential to 'snap' as you called it. You are sar far from the mark it's funny. You act as if there is Jo crowd trouble in the A-League and all it's supporter are fuckig angels. Where the fuck do you get off claiming that most of the fans at 'these' clubs could snap
and become crazy and violent.

And people wonder why fans of the old NSL clubs hate the A-League and it's fans so much. It's the assumption that all these effniks are crazy and just a timebomb waiting to go off. It's that stereotyping that pisses us fans of the old NSL right off.


Edited by sydneycroatia58: 14/4/2010 12:34:58 AM

OMG. are you serious? It's spelled ETHNIC. Maybe learn to spell before you pick up your Aus passport! [-(

STFU. Is there really any need for that comment.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 14/4/2010 12:36:33 AM

Did you miss the humour, dear?

Well he is a Spura fan so it's understandable:lol: :p

Some of the crap dissed out by the racists here are amazingly wrong, frustrating and stupid.

Idiots.

Since when did a pitch invasion in a highly passionate match become an Us versus them Story.

Where were you all condeming Millwall and Westham last year? I understand that it is an great annoiance and those involved need to be sanctioned for their stupidity, but really look at yourselves, you are creating a Mountain out of a Mole hill.

I'm Pretty sure had their not been a large contingent of Australia's finest boys in Blue at SFC and Docklands that SFC fans would have loved to charge the field.
I know I wanted to at the Newy Grand Final but with Cops, Seco's and Undercover mingled you wouldn't get the Numbers for a charge before being smashed by someone.

Find the Medium and do as Bens Sig says "side by side not head to head"

I for one categorically deny making any derogatory remarks about the ethnic influences in Football in my original post.Please read it carefully. All I said and I was right there is much reactionary angst in sections of the culture of SMFC concerning rejection. The club is now struggling and is less and less relevant given the growth of other very well organised greek sponsored clubs in Melbourne who cause no trouble and have grown there own fan bases. SMFC administration is totally to blame in this case for having insufficient security at its games and must pay the penalty for this and remarks about crowds at Victory games are completely irrelevant once again reinforcing the view how much many SMFC fans hate the A-League. The reactionary behaviour of some SMFC fans just reinforce the predjudices the broader community has against this club and a section of its sometimes violent fans. I believe and it is only my opinion that it is highly unlikely that SMFC in its current form will ever grace the stage of elite level football in Australia again.

Let me start by saying I have always been and still continue to be a believe that in the long term South Melbourne in the A-league would be good for football.

However there is no doubt that the club still struggles to overcome the past. Incidents like this, while not ruinous by themselves, do expose the issues of introducing clubs that once represented the NSL back into out National Comp.

I find it amazing to see comments if not justifying the action seeking to downplay their seriousness. The fact is incidents like this just reinforce the perception that an Australian Cup style completion that mixes A-league with State league clubs is a recipe for disaster. Think how the media would react to this in a televised Victory vs South match.

It seems that sections of the SMFC fans will continue to do the club no favours and sadly that means the game continues to be held back.

One word DEREKS!

right on the money....

First half is pretty much on the money with regard to the way the club was run through the 90s - alienating people left right and center. This is something the current committee is aware of and has worked extremely hard to fix over the last year or two. Which is why Sunday was so painful - a year of hard work semi-undone by a handful of morons.

My only critisism of the club itself was that the security staff were on the wrong side of the pitch, but it's easy to say that in hindsight. One of the benefits of the stadium refit will be that jumping a 3 foot fence won't be enough to get you on the playing surface once all the work is done.

As for the reactionary behaviour of some of the fans - I'm pretty sure supporters of any club, anywhere in the world, including the 'new' Aussie sides, would react the same way if their club was critisized. You say Victory fans are badly behaved, they will say Adelaide are terrible, or that they are much better than the old clubs, etc.

No one believes that SMFC in it's current form will ever grace the A-League, which is one of the reasons that SMFC is working so hard to change its current form.

Make no mistake - that pitch invasion pissed us off far more than it pissed any of you guys off.

well done south melbourne for being such a great and professionally run club.

smfc do not listen to these morons who do not love football

Ladies and Gentlemen, Join me in welcoming back solympic=d> =d> =d> =d> =d>

Being a old Heidelberg fan from way back it appears the behaviour of some South Melbourne fans never changes. Disappointing.

dropi sou

I wouldn't let it get you down too much mate. At Adelaide United, a minor scuffle in the stands or on the street often gets blown up to ridiculous proportions. The Advertiser newspaper is reknowned for hating our sport and our team. Meanwhile 100 arseholes get thrown out of the cricket at Adelaide Oval and they'll keep it quiet and play it down. Trust me, it absolutely kills the spirit.

Unfortunately for you, some of your detractors are not only the mainstream media, but also those within our own ranks. All i can say is the initiatives that SMFC has come up with in the last 6 months is something that i am envious of - and i am an inaugural AU member. Keeping pushing forward.

Who gives a sh*t, it's South Melbourne - all but a core of unwashed, poorly behaved wankers stopped caring out them a long, long time ago.

Really great for our game - well done you clowns.

Sunday's events will have absolutely zero effect on 'our game'. The A-League isn't affected, if anything the fuss about an old 'ethnic' club having some bother strengthens the A-league's claims of being safe and wonderfully cleansed of all the 'negative' elements.

What we are seeing here, in a microcosm, is a classic example of what has kept football down over the years. A few nuggets do something stupid and inexcusable, then the media over-reacts, then 'outsiders' who don't know what actually happened run with it and make out it was something far worse than it actually was.

I was walking down the road when I saw this bright shiny package on the pavement with a label that said "New Football". I picked it up and underneath was this writhing mess of creepy crawly maggots all shouting "Old Soccer".

Was the package plastic and empty?

I've watched the A League for 5 years, barely mising a home game at the Mariners and I have never seen any violence and only once saw fans try to invade, and that was the last home game of the season. I have great sympathy for the old NSL supporters and the like and can understand the frustration at the disconnect between them and the A League but this minor incident does nothing to dispel the notion that old ethnic clubs cannot be a part of the future.

Peopel who rip flares, Throw Computer parts around and generally try and pick fights with families and lads just off to the game for a good time are the exact same lads that jump on to the pitch and cause havoc.

Could peole who are lookng down their noses at the "old soccer" supporters please climb down off of your high horses as your teams are not immune.

I remember SFC and other A-League supporters jumping on the moral high horse when 20 odd West Sydney Rovers Supporters causes a bit of Stick after the SYD V Perth game in Feb.

Same type of incident yet no one called for the removal of Rovers and such that is being bandied about on this forum at the momment.

:)The package was empty only if you don't embrace the change in football brought about by the Crawford Report. It was full of promise for me...

:)The package was empty only if you don't embrace the change in football brought about by the Crawford Report. It was full of promise for me...

Ignore people trolling you Ben.

Nah, I was just having a bit of fun. I thought my response was pretty quick. ;)

There's no one on this forum that could post anything more upsetting to me than the site of those dickheads running onto the pitch - or of them trying to justify their actions as they were escorted from it.

As you said earlier, there's plenty of bother at A-league games - none of it worth discussing though because it's all "meh". Same with Sunday's incident - f*cking stupid behaviour, but no one was hurt and nothing was broken. The FFV will deal with the incident.

Is that the Crawford Report which explicitely called for an independant national competition, run completely separately from the governing body?

Good that everyone took notice of that isn't it?

Thankfully due to us being part of the AFC we are required to have this become a reality due to our desire to continue participating in the ACL!

We're also required to have a system for promotion/relegation, I can't see that happening too soon.

I suspect that there will be a lot of fiddling with structures to find a way that the FFA can maintain control of the A-League whilst it 'appears' to be an independant competition - but the situation with Archie Fraser and Ben Buckley this week demonstrates clearly that there is currently no division between the two entities what-so-ever.

The fact is that everytime someone does something like this at an old "ethnic" club, all the old jealousies and stigmas will resurface. If you are an "ethnic" club, surely people will, rightly or wrongly, understand that. If it was an A League game, the media will just call them soccer hooligans. If its South, or Sydney United, or Bonnyrigg etc, it takes on the racial slant.
Not saying its right, but thats the way it is.

Krijoz said:''Stupid Greeks!!!
Kick them out of Football Federation Victoria and send them to Singapore?
Pathetic morons!!!''

Mate,they aren't stupid.They're just typical greek football fans and that was nothing:just check videos from greek football games :D

so when sydney fc fans went and smashed a pub in melbourne everything is ok with that????

and they deserve to be in the a-league stop it now

if you people are football people you will stop with the crap

and i must say FFT im disgusted as a football fan to see ur website is the only one reporting this about the game

and i have spoken to people from smfc who have explained fft was not at the game so please explain this

Weren't you banned solympic?

I was joking (a little bit).Now let's be serious:you can't ban so harsh a club because of a small minority of the fans.

Thank god the FFA didn't except Sth Melbourne bid to join the A-League. Fucking losers have hammered the last nail into the SM coffin. Well done you boys!!! I hope you are proud!!

And he is again.

Why the fuck does race have to be bought into everything on this forum. FFS..!

These idiots did not run onto the field (to the best of my knowledge) yelling "Greece for eva!!" or even "NSL Rulz".

Sounds like the actions of a few morons. Every club has morons who support them, no matter the background of the club.

I love the A-League, and I thank the football gods every day that it was started, but loads of A-League clubs have had problems with their fans (Middleby incident, pub smashing by MV supporters, CCM supporters crashing threw the fencing etc) yet people like Ton of Bricks choose to ignore them so they can continue their passive racism.

The biggest issue facing football in this country is ‘the enemy within’. Not every supporter of non A-League clubs are like solympic, believe it or not, many are just football supporters who have stayed loyal to clubs they have been following for a lifetime.

If we want to achieve anything in this country with our sport, the olive branch (no pun-intended) needs to sought. When the FFA launched the A-League they used the motto “Uniting the Tribes”, well I don’t think anything but a widening gap as occurred.

Ignore idiots like solympic, even his own fellow Olympic fans think he is an idiot, and try not to turn everything into us vs them…….we are all football fans after all.

haha need more of this and less hatamoto BS!!

Shouldn't have given away all those free tickets to the game! ;)

Great post.

So where was this reported in the local press? Nowhere. ](*,)

+ 1=d> =d> =d>

+2

And another.

Side by side.

well said keysor.

Your right I over reacted out of frustration when I read the article, we have these people that can't control themselves at A-league clubs as well, just not as many and they are better controlled by both their peers and security.

It is just so frustrating that a club that knows it and its supporters are under so much scrutiny still has this sort of behaviour. I think most supporters at all levels want a cup competiton and also a second divison but as long as this sort of shit keeps happening it just won't be possible.

Seeing the posts from a few of the supporters of the old clubs they seem to condone this sort of behaviour by saying that it is just passion, this minority needs to be shut out of these clubs or there will continue to be problems.

Just think how the SMFC Club Committee feel and how supporters like myself feel who try to do the right thing. With 3,000 crowd and 10 or so idiots wreck it for us all.

Hopefully they are banned for life, hopefully we can all get over the bull shit stereotyping as pointed out by sydneycroatia58 and keysor

you're a chammpion - if ever there was a person determined to destroy a club - even if it meant damaging the game in the process - your it

Don't worry TOB's there will be firm action from the club as a result of this

TOB's fuck off - you're just a nuisance - the stat that bothers you the most was the attendance 4,000 - I reckon 2,000 were greek, meaning the other 2,000 were non greek

must feel like a dagger in the heart for you

How can you make such an an outrageous demographic assessment? Did you count them? Who or What were the other 2000 non greeks at the game, gremlins or bitalonians?