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On the 'football hooliganism' scale I give sunday's incident a 1/10. No need to label it 'ethnic violence blah blah' just your typical organic low grade act of stupidity seen whenever MV plays Adelaide or Sydney...... A few clowns run onto the pitch to celebrate after a undeserved 91st min equaliser against the arch enemy Heidelberg at our last ever match at the old BJS, one fool gives their keeper some lip and cops a backhander, gets up and walks away with hands in the air .....It was more comedy than hard core violence. Shit like this shouldn't happen and can't be excused I realise, but every club in every league in every country has a few idiots that fuck it up for everyone. Small scale celebratory pitch invasions are pretty common in the lower leagues, it's wrong but it happens and it's usually a case of immature teenage over exhuberance.
I feel sorry for the board and volunteers (all unpaid) at South who are doing a top job in strengthening the clubs future having to deal with this type of stupidity.
I make no excuses for sunday's incident. We'll simply have to cop it on the chin.
The 'fan' concerned has made full admission to the club and FFV. And no it wasn't me!!!!Too old for that sort of shit nowdays.... Yeh it probably fucked up our A-League chances completely now :roll:, from zero to zilch. Still it's good to see people's venom and hostility at all things South.
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SMFC and proud wrote:On the 'football hooliganism' scale I give sunday's incident a 1/10. No need to label it 'ethnic violence blah blah' just your typical organic low grade act of stupidity seen whenever MV plays Adelaide or Sydney...... A few clowns run onto the pitch to celebrate after a undeserved 91st min equaliser against the arch enemy Heidelberg at our last ever match at the old BJS, one fool gives their keeper some lip and cops a backhander, gets up and walks away with hands in the air .....It was more comedy than hard core violence. Shit like this shouldn't happen and can't be excused I realise, but every club in every league in every country has a few idiots that fuck it up for everyone. Small scale celebratory pitch invasions are pretty common in the lower leagues, it's wrong but it happens and it's usually a case of immature teenage over exhuberance.
How on earth is no problem when 3 wankers run onto pitch and try to assault a player mate! How would you feel when 3 grown up man run towards you? Would you just laugh at them or be scared? I am pretty sure you would be shit scared when there have been ongoing violence between two clubs over the years. Nobody is allowed to run onto pitch and assault anyone and you have rated the incident 1/10! I think there is something wrong with you mate
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ton.of.bricks wrote:southmelb wrote: yeh what a bonus, it stops you from using the ethnic line! clubs being of the same background means nothing, especially nowadays when a lot of souths active support is non greek.
Read what I wrote: ton.of.bricks wrote: And as predicably expected, benjamin and his troupe will come on this forum now and excuse and defend the indefensible. Don't tell me what nationality they were you fucking football hater. I'm too upset on behalf of australian football to be listening to your crap tonight. Take your agenda with you and fuck off. im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron.
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southmelb
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krijoz wrote:SMFC and proud wrote:On the 'football hooliganism' scale I give sunday's incident a 1/10. No need to label it 'ethnic violence blah blah' just your typical organic low grade act of stupidity seen whenever MV plays Adelaide or Sydney...... A few clowns run onto the pitch to celebrate after a undeserved 91st min equaliser against the arch enemy Heidelberg at our last ever match at the old BJS, one fool gives their keeper some lip and cops a backhander, gets up and walks away with hands in the air .....It was more comedy than hard core violence. Shit like this shouldn't happen and can't be excused I realise, but every club in every league in every country has a few idiots that fuck it up for everyone. Small scale celebratory pitch invasions are pretty common in the lower leagues, it's wrong but it happens and it's usually a case of immature teenage over exhuberance.
How on earth is no problem when 3 wankers run onto pitch and try to assault a player mate! How would you feel when 3 grown up man run towards you? Would you just laugh at them or be scared? I am pretty sure you would be shit scared when there have been ongoing violence between two clubs over the years. Nobody is allowed to run onto pitch and assault anyone and you have rated the incident 1/10! I think there is something wrong with you mate he wasnt assaulted and nobody attempted to assault him! the person mocked the keeper and the keeper retiliated by shoving him to the turf, 30 seconds later everyone was off the pitch, no kicks, punches, slaps and other rubbish that ppl have made up who werent even at the game.
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I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.
This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.
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Joffa wrote:I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.
This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.
indeed, but calling for the expulsion of the club as some have is silly. you follow mv joffa, im sure you wouldnt like it if people put you in the same category as those victory fans that chucked flares aiming them at south players and hitting 1 in the head a few yrs ago would you? we are in the same situation, every club has undesireable fans.
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southmelb wrote:Joffa wrote:I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.
This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.
indeed, but calling for the expulsion of the club as some have is silly. you follow mv joffa, im sure you wouldnt like it if people put you in the same category as those victory fans that chucked flares aiming them at south players and hitting 1 in the head a few yrs ago would you? we are in the same situation, every club has undesireable fans. Absolutely, every club has dickhead fans, and the actions of the few, whilst they obviously don't reflect the views of the club or the majority , they do tarnish all. If this happened at MV I would condemn it as I would if it happened at any A-League club. I guess what we all need to understand is that these idiots are not people we want supporting our clubs...and if this type of behaviour is endemic to the State League in Victoria as some have suggested...it needs to be eradicated post haste. The biggest problem that I see is that public consensus and discussion is now evolving towards the implementation of a second tier and a Cup comp. These types of incidents reinforce every ugly stereotype Football in Australia has had to endure. As a sport we need to stop undermining ourselves to move forward. My biggest concern in reading some of the comments is that whist some have been over the top, each way, not all have been in condemnation of the incident. Edited by Joffa: 13/4/2010 08:15:48 PM
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Joffa wrote:southmelb wrote:Joffa wrote:I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.
This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.
indeed, but calling for the expulsion of the club as some have is silly. you follow mv joffa, im sure you wouldnt like it if people put you in the same category as those victory fans that chucked flares aiming them at south players and hitting 1 in the head a few yrs ago would you? we are in the same situation, every club has undesireable fans. Absolutely, every club has dickhead fans, and the actions of the few, whilst they obviously don't reflect the views of the club or the majority , they do tarnish all. If this happened at MV I would condemn it as I would if it happened at any A-League club. I guess what we all need to understand is that these idiots are not people we want supporting our clubs...and if this type of behaviour is endemic to the State League in Victoria as some have suggested...it needs to be eradicated post haste. The biggest problem that I see is that public consensus and discussion is now evolving towards the implementation of a second tier and a Cup comp. These types of incidents reinforce every ugly stereotype Football in Australia has had to endure. As a sport we need to stop undermining ourselves to move forward. My biggest concern in reading some of the comments is that whist some have been over the top, each way, not all have been in condemnation of the incident. Edited by Joffa: 13/4/2010 08:15:48 PM i have condemned the incident from the moment it happened on sunday, i think everyone has, but i think the discussion needs a balance, as angry as i am at our fans, im sick of other ppl who most likely werent even at the game trying to make it out to be the biggest scandal ever, a bit of balance wouldnt go astray.
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One hell of an own goal scored. Security was non existent and unable to cope with any incident. Shambles and disarray mixed with dismay.
Melbourne Knights next week!!!
Edited by oracle: 13/4/2010 08:35:50 PM
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southmelb wrote:Joffa wrote:southmelb wrote:Joffa wrote:I'm not a hater of South Melb, in fact i have been quietly impressed with how they seem to go about their business, but the reality is this type of behaviour can't be condoned or minimised. The reality is idiots entered the field, an incident occurred with the goalkeeper and the match was stopped.
This was no doubt by a few idiots who I'm sure don't represent the club or the majority of supporters...Unfortunately for the game this reinforces every fear, misconception, fact or untrue about 'ethnic' clubs....it is always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else.
indeed, but calling for the expulsion of the club as some have is silly. you follow mv joffa, im sure you wouldnt like it if people put you in the same category as those victory fans that chucked flares aiming them at south players and hitting 1 in the head a few yrs ago would you? we are in the same situation, every club has undesireable fans. Absolutely, every club has dickhead fans, and the actions of the few, whilst they obviously don't reflect the views of the club or the majority , they do tarnish all. If this happened at MV I would condemn it as I would if it happened at any A-League club. I guess what we all need to understand is that these idiots are not people we want supporting our clubs...and if this type of behaviour is endemic to the State League in Victoria as some have suggested...it needs to be eradicated post haste. The biggest problem that I see is that public consensus and discussion is now evolving towards the implementation of a second tier and a Cup comp. These types of incidents reinforce every ugly stereotype Football in Australia has had to endure. As a sport we need to stop undermining ourselves to move forward. My biggest concern in reading some of the comments is that whist some have been over the top, each way, not all have been in condemnation of the incident. Edited by Joffa: 13/4/2010 08:15:48 PM i have condemned the incident from the moment it happened on sunday, i think everyone has, but i think the discussion needs a balance, as angry as i am at our fans, im sick of other ppl who most likely werent even at the game trying to make it out to be the biggest scandal ever, a bit of balance wouldnt go astray. I agree.
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southmelb wrote: im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron. benjamin, look. I don't really give 2 fucks if you have the power to ban me because of what I have to say. I have gone past caring of what you can do now that u are a moderator. I'm fucking accusing you of using multiple aliases, including every single fucking one that has south melb in it. Since I accused you of being johny fucking come lately that name disappeared. Tonight you and your fucking agenda is fucked for ever. Keep drumming up support for your agenda to fuck the A-League by lobbying for SMFC to be included in the A-League, the fucking B-League or the fucking FA Cup. Do whatever you want to me. Edit me. Ban me. Fuck me. I don't care. But someone up there you fucking ass is looking after our sport and what has been achieved in australian football in the last 6 years and you can't change it whether I'm here in this forum to fight you or not. Your agenda is fucked.
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ton.of.bricks wrote:southmelb wrote: im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron. benjamin, look. I don't really give 2 fucks if you have the power to ban me because of what I have to say. I have gone past caring of what you can do now that u are a moderator. I'm fucking accusing you of using multiple aliases, including every single fucking one that has south melb in it. Since I accused you of being johny fucking come lately that name disappeared. Tonight you and your fucking agenda is fucked for ever. Keep drumming up support for your agenda to fuck the A-League by lobbying for SMFC to be included in the A-League, the fucking B-League or the fucking FA Cup. Do whatever you want to me. Edit me. Ban me. Fuck me. I don't care. But someone up there you fucking ass is looking after our sport and what has been achieved in australian football in the last 6 years and you can't change it whether I'm here in this forum to fight you or not. Your agenda is fucked. im not Benjamin:oops: to be honest i hope he does ban you, wild accusations and you have been doing it for years.
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Benjamin
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ton.of.bricks wrote:southmelb wrote: im a football hater? thats news to me, tob you arent upset, you are delighted because you have the opportunity to stick the boots into smfc once again, i dont condone what happened, but im sure as hell not gonna take crap from people who were not at the ground and didnt see what transpired, and no i didnt jump on the field, and im happy to go into nationality because you simply had to point out the background of both clubs didnt you? moron. benjamin, look. I don't really give 2 fucks if you have the power to ban me because of what I have to say. I have gone past caring of what you can do now that u are a moderator. I'm fucking accusing you of using multiple aliases, including every single fucking one that has south melb in it. Since I accused you of being johny fucking come lately that name disappeared. Tonight you and your fucking agenda is fucked for ever. Keep drumming up support for your agenda to fuck the A-League by lobbying for SMFC to be included in the A-League, the fucking B-League or the fucking FA Cup. Do whatever you want to me. Edit me. Ban me. Fuck me. I don't care. But someone up there you fucking ass is looking after our sport and what has been achieved in australian football in the last 6 years and you can't change it whether I'm here in this forum to fight you or not. Your agenda is fucked. I won't be banning you, I enjoy watching you continually making a fool of yourself. *EDIT - for the record, I just checked and Johnny Come Lately's last post was 13 April 2010 10:14:21. That's... Erm... Today, isn't it? So, as I say, continue to make a fool of yourself Tobby. Edited by Benjamin: 13/4/2010 10:57:01 PM
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Tip rat victory fans who weren't even at the game ready to stick the boot in at any chance. 10, 15 fans ran onto the pitch? 1 teased the keeper from a meter away, only to be confronted by the keeper, pushed over as he was backing away and kicked by a few heidelberg players. laser light was from a crazy heidelberg fan. Match is not officially abondoned as result still stands, ref blew for full time. investigation is under way.
Will the keeper face sanctions for pushing a fan? you guys make me sick, stupid kids who discovered the world game 5 years ago, no respect for what made soccer in this country, what produced your socceroos. Such bitter, jealousy and hate. At least at south we are members club, where as you morons are customers of a plastic franchise, owned by geoff lord the wanker. too many non football people in this A-league including you johnny come lately bandwagoners. Fuck you all
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The fans of some of these old clubs remind me of Chopper Reid the way they snap and can't control their emotions. 99 times out of 100 these 3 fans wouldn't even consider acting the way they did but every now and again they do just snap and embarrass everyone who supports football in this country. Even though this a minority there is still hundreds of fans at these clubs that could at some point just snap, be overcome with emotion and do something crazy.
What will happen if you came into the A-league and all the hardcore people who don't currently attend come to the games, it would be a ticking timebomb. Sorry Jimmy your going to have to settle for the state leagues
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Daniel1991
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wow suss much ton.of.bricks has a point
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Benjamin
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Daniel1991 wrote:wow suss much ton.of.bricks has a point He hasn't a clue, let alone a point. The South Melbourne supporters he despises so much have all condemned those who invaded the pitch. He's been told several times that his allegations of multi-posting are incorrect - by moderators other than me (although I suspect he probably thinks those moderators are my multis).
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I'm a south fan who's gotten 100% behind the a-league n melb victory but this xenophobic, ignorant bullshit by losers who became fans after the world cup taking a claim on the game in this country make me fucking sick. Sick of this shit
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So to sum it all up:
- Effniks are bad - Effniks have destroyed football - Effniks are at fault for global warming
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Edensor, important one you missed...
- No non-Effnik has ever jumped the fence, ever, at a sporting event in Australia. EVER.
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Clinton wrote:The fans of some of these old clubs remind me of Chopper Reid the way they snap and can't control their emotions. 99 times out of 100 these 3 fans wouldn't even consider acting the way they did but every now and again they do just snap and embarrass everyone who supports football in this country. Even though this a minority there is still hundreds of fans at these clubs that could at some point just snap, be overcome with emotion and do something crazy.
What will happen if you came into the A-league and all the hardcore people who don't currently attend come to the games, it would be a ticking timebomb. Sorry Jimmy your going to have to settle for the state leagues So is it only fans of ethnic clubs that have the potential to 'snap' as you called it. You are sar far from the mark it's funny. You act as if there is Jo crowd trouble in the A-League and all it's supporter are fuckig angels. Where the fuck do you get off claiming that most of the fans at 'these' clubs could snap and become crazy and violent. And people wonder why fans of the old NSL clubs hate the A-League and it's fans so much. It's the assumption that all these effniks are crazy and just a timebomb waiting to go off. It's that stereotyping that pisses us fans of the old NSL right off. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 14/4/2010 12:34:58 AM
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Edensor2176 wrote:So to sum it all up:
- Effniks are bad - Effniks have destroyed football - Effniks are at fault for global warming
OMG. are you serious? It's spelled ETHNIC. Maybe learn to spell before you pick up your Aus passport! [-(
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NuggetsMcGreggor wrote:Edensor2176 wrote:So to sum it all up:
- Effniks are bad - Effniks have destroyed football - Effniks are at fault for global warming
OMG. are you serious? It's spelled ETHNIC. Maybe learn to spell before you pick up your Aus passport! [-( STFU. Is there really any need for that comment. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 14/4/2010 12:36:33 AM
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Benjamin
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NuggetsMcGreggor wrote:Edensor2176 wrote:So to sum it all up:
- Effniks are bad - Effniks have destroyed football - Effniks are at fault for global warming
OMG. are you serious? It's spelled ETHNIC. Maybe learn to spell before you pick up your Aus passport! [-( Did you miss the humour, dear?
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Benjamin wrote:NuggetsMcGreggor wrote:Edensor2176 wrote:So to sum it all up:
- Effniks are bad - Effniks have destroyed football - Effniks are at fault for global warming
OMG. are you serious? It's spelled ETHNIC. Maybe learn to spell before you pick up your Aus passport! [-( Did you miss the humour, dear? Well he is a Spura fan so it's understandable:lol: :p
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Some of the crap dissed out by the racists here are amazingly wrong, frustrating and stupid.
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Idiots.
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Since when did a pitch invasion in a highly passionate match become an Us versus them Story.
Where were you all condeming Millwall and Westham last year? I understand that it is an great annoiance and those involved need to be sanctioned for their stupidity, but really look at yourselves, you are creating a Mountain out of a Mole hill.
I'm Pretty sure had their not been a large contingent of Australia's finest boys in Blue at SFC and Docklands that SFC fans would have loved to charge the field. I know I wanted to at the Newy Grand Final but with Cops, Seco's and Undercover mingled you wouldn't get the Numbers for a charge before being smashed by someone.
Find the Medium and do as Bens Sig says "side by side not head to head"
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I for one categorically deny making any derogatory remarks about the ethnic influences in Football in my original post.Please read it carefully. All I said and I was right there is much reactionary angst in sections of the culture of SMFC concerning rejection. The club is now struggling and is less and less relevant given the growth of other very well organised greek sponsored clubs in Melbourne who cause no trouble and have grown there own fan bases. SMFC administration is totally to blame in this case for having insufficient security at its games and must pay the penalty for this and remarks about crowds at Victory games are completely irrelevant once again reinforcing the view how much many SMFC fans hate the A-League. The reactionary behaviour of some SMFC fans just reinforce the predjudices the broader community has against this club and a section of its sometimes violent fans. I believe and it is only my opinion that it is highly unlikely that SMFC in its current form will ever grace the stage of elite level football in Australia again.
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Let me start by saying I have always been and still continue to be a believe that in the long term South Melbourne in the A-league would be good for football.
However there is no doubt that the club still struggles to overcome the past. Incidents like this, while not ruinous by themselves, do expose the issues of introducing clubs that once represented the NSL back into out National Comp.
I find it amazing to see comments if not justifying the action seeking to downplay their seriousness. The fact is incidents like this just reinforce the perception that an Australian Cup style completion that mixes A-league with State league clubs is a recipe for disaster. Think how the media would react to this in a televised Victory vs South match.
It seems that sections of the SMFC fans will continue to do the club no favours and sadly that means the game continues to be held back.
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