ItsCalledFootball
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Buckley has offered Graham Arnold more money than the Mariners did.
Whoever they pick, he'll renig on the agreement and go coach a Russion billionaire's club side.
Then we'll pick some arrogant out of work Dutch prick who couldn't give a shit about Australian football.
Sound familiar?
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Benjamin
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RJL25 wrote:Davstar - who cares if Ben's knowledge of football is limited? Thats not his job, his job is to run the business that is the FFA and appoint head coaches and technical directors to worry about the actual game.
Edited by RJL25: 17/6/2010 12:53:30 PM I would think that a good knowledge of football would be helpful when appointing a coach for the national team and technical directors. Can you imagine him interviewing an applicant and asking how the applicant intended on playing and developing the national team... The applicant then talking of formations, styles, etc., making comparisons with other nations, players, etc. Talking of coaching systems, philosophies, etc., and all the time Ben smiling blankly back, nodding his head and thinking "sounds good, I wish I knew what he was talking about though"
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dullsville rocket
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I have a few house bricks laying around my house doing nothing! ha
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Tommycash
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Reason Quote:So you've turned on the players. You've turned on the team. You've turned on the coach. You've turned on the administration.
Who's next 442 forumites? why, Reason it's the person we've been waiting to turn on this whole time. you.
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afromanGT
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IIRC, we saw the same spiel before we hired Verbeek and he was our third choice coach after the two coaches we actually wanted turned us down. Sounds like the search is going well.
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Joffa
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Apparently Kevin Sheedy has applied... he wants to take the AFL gospel to the world.
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van der Aussie
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Andrew Johns is looking for work...
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afromanGT
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They should wait until they've seen my resume 8-[ RJL25 wrote:Davstar - who cares if Ben's knowledge of football is limited? Thats not his job, his job is to run the business that is the FFA and appoint head coaches and technical directors to worry about the actual game.
Edited by RJL25: 17/6/2010 12:53:30 PM It's not his job to hire the man in the end. The last say will go to someone with more technical knowledge anyway. We have a technical director for a reason. Quote:Give Craig Foster a go he thinks he knows all about the game Or we could hire someone with a little more coaching skill. Like a house brick.
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LeedsForever
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My Dear Lappin - Eddie Thomson Gave HARRY KEWELL his INTERNATIONAL DEBUT in a FRIENDLY V CHILE. HARRY was JUST 17.
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AussieGold
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probably another (boring) Dutchman...
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No top-class manager is going to want to do this job for four years. We're going to be choosing from the next crop, the next step down from that, the managers that have the potential and that want to make themselves into the elite managers in a decade's time. We have to sell ourselves and the manager's four year investment as a stepping stone to that goal.
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GloryPerth
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I doubt this is JUST Buckley's judgement alone - like the appointment of Fury's coach, It's LIKELY Han Berger is having a strong say in the appointment of the next coach!
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AussieGold
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Venables? LOL... I'm here in London watching his stupid singing ads on TV in between the WC games... please not Venables... anyone but Venables
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AussieGold
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why has the FFA sprung this story now? Probably to take the focus off the crap that's going on in the Socceroos camp in Sth Africa? Sounds like there's something not quite right in Sth Africa with the FFA / Verbeek / and team...
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dullsville rocket
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Reason are you Ben Buckley?
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Reason
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phutbol wrote: As I've said previously elsewhere, how many truly top level managers (in the mould of capello, mourinho, Hiddink, Mancini, benitez etc) would consider a long term position with the socceroos for the sort of money on offer? My guess would be less than 1....
That guess is based on your in-depth, intimate knowledge of football managers, is it? Based on decades of working with them at the top level, no doubt. LOL. Please.
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Lappin wrote:Cant wait for Pim to fuck off!! the most boring football brain ever seen, bring back terry venables!! the old bastard loved him! he gave harry his 1st start & im sure he would give plenty of other new boys a go.
Yeah, ask Robbie Slater about how loved Venables was... dullsville rocket wrote:Buckley nothing but a Demetriou clone. Give Craig Foster a go he thinks he knows all about the game You must be a f*cking "Heineken" clone, cause that's the most retarded comment of the day.
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dullsville rocket
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Buckley nothing but a Demetriou clone. Give Craig Foster a go he thinks he knows all about the game
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Lappin
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Cant wait for Pim to fuck off!! the most boring football brain ever seen, bring back terry venables!! the old bastard loved him! he gave harry his 1st start & im sure he would give plenty of other new boys a go.
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to put it in perspective $6 million a year would make them the second highest paid coach at the world cup, behind england's coach at $12 million. pim verbeek is currently 8th highest paid(insulting isnt it?) at 2.5
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RJL25
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Something that Craig Foster said which I agree with, which is fairly rare actually, is that it's the Australian way to die on our feet rather then live on our knees. The way Pim had us play against Germany clearly shows that he doesn't understand this mindset, and any future coach willing to take on this role does have to understand this!
We, as Australians, want to fight! we want to attack! WE WANT TO TRY AND WIN!
We do NOT want to go out there and try and flog out a sneaky draw, we're not interested in that! And our defense is simply not good enough to hold out a top team for 90 minutes anyway, it was a dumb tactic, totally outside of what Australia expects from their sports teams, which is why Pim just doesn't get it!
We outplayed and nearly beat Italy at the last world cup because we came out and said stuff you italy and your tradition and your prestige and your superstar players, we're gonna beat you blokes! It didn't work in the end, but at least we where competitive, at least we MIGHT have won, on another day we probably would have won. If we had played that way against Germany theres no fuckin way we would have lost 4 fucking nil!
Edited by RJL25: 17/6/2010 04:10:21 PM
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Just to clarify, there is nothing wrong with a 4-2-3-1.
There does, however, need to be a plan B and C. You also need a manager/coach that has confidence and belief in his charges, with the ability to make them bleed for the shirt and feel they can beat anyone on their day - which is something that Australians are notoriously good at doing. You want a manager with charisma and swagger that won't baulk at the sight of champion teams.
A bit of tactical nous doesn't hurt.
The Australian public won't tolerate lay-down Sallies.
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RJL25
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3-4-3 - with a diamond midfield no doubt?
Sure would be attacking... I think we'd leak a lot of goals though! Who would our back 3 be? Neil, Moore and Chippers? Wow that would be slow...
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Daniel1991
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Can I be the coach. I play with a 3-4-3 in a sort of diamond formation. Very attacking not defensive soft touch BS! Australia FTW!
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RJL25
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batfink - your right, you don't need a team of superstars, Greece won euro 2004 with a team that is really no better then what Australian teams can offer, its about how the team plays, the game plan, the system, etc
The old saying, a champion team can beat a team of champions any day of the week.
Heres a somewhat hopefull one - Arsene Wenger. He is out of contract with Arsenal at the end of this coming season, Japan are chasing him for their national team, if Japan could potentially sign him, why not us? Yes he has some history with coaching a Japanese club in the J-league, but still - if Japan could potentially get him, why not us???
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well glorious mentioned gerrard houllier, this is a great selection, he was responsible for the french developement program that see's many french players in the top ranked footballers in the world over the past 10 years, we have to stop being in a hurry, make the right decisions on which to build and get started,we will only be successfull once we develope some talent and a depth of talent from which to draw, those who accept pims verdict,that we have no real talented players and no pool to select from, and the a-league is shit are completely wrong, ricky herbert has proved that, he has his team playing to a good game plan, playing to their strengths and he has instilled belief in themselves, from a population of 4 million??? FFA stop looking for quick fixes and make the right decision.
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Bryan
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at least the money started talking since only a couple of days ago they had no one of interest... 6 million a year or something there abouts for the coaches wage?
One good thing that will come from this, no more bloody GA.
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RJL25
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phutbol wrote: Hiddink only took the job on the condition he didnt have to move here, and it was for a short spell in conjunction with his European gig. He wouldnt have taken a 2-3 year posting that meant moving here as well...
somewhat contradicting this statement is the fact that Hiddink took a 2 year spell with South Korea and then a full 4 year spell with Russia, neither posting could be considered particularly prestegious. Now he is about to start a spell with Turkey, again hardly the most prestegous of posings. Good coaches will take up a challange, a coach like Guus Hiddink may not want to coach England for arguments sake, many don't want to put their reputations at stake with such a high profile position whereby failure can basically destroy your reputation (Sven-Goran Eriksson anyone?) Edited by RJL25: 17/6/2010 03:07:27 PM
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phutbol
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As I've said previously elsewhere, how many truly top level managers (in the mould of capello, mourinho, Hiddink, Mancini, benitez etc) would consider a long term position with the socceroos for the sort of money on offer? My guess would be less than 1....
The fact is its not a particularly attractive position to managers that dont need the money anyway and are looking for prestigious positions at the top of the football pile.
Moving to a geographically remote football backwater (which we still are in many opinions) probably just isnt very compelling to those types.
Hiddink only took the job on the condition he didnt have to move here, and it was for a short spell in conjunction with his European gig. He wouldnt have taken a 2-3 year posting that meant moving here as well...
Unfortunately I think we need an ambitious younger manager of the Troussier type. Its more realistic. That or appoint a supersstar but have an assistant oversee the day to day running with the big gun to be around leading up to games and major comps. probably the only way we are going to snag a truly great manager. IMO of course
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Davstar
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We need to play compact direct football 4-1-2-1-2 it would suit us best i've been saying this for 12 months with Macce kewell in the front cahill behind. We have the players for it and its balanced football. PLaying to offensive is stupid despite what fozz says if u dont have players like Messi and Xavi on ur team and playing to counter attacking is boring and when playing against superior sides you are garenteed to lose. It works for italy i agree but italy have techincally skill midfielders and clinical finishers who can score with just a few chances. I've noticed alot of nations in the WC have set up defensivly with superior sides and there are getting beaten by weaker oppisition.
these Kangaroos can play football - Ange P. (Intercontinental WC Play-offs 2017)
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF FOOTBALL
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