FIFA ‘very satisfied’ with World Cup referees


FIFA ‘very satisfied’ with World Cup referees

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afromanGT wrote:
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So. When the ref gives the foul there's nothing that says he must say who the foul was against.

The crux of this presentation is that WE don't knwo who the foul was against, YOU don't know who the foul was against, None of the PLAYERS know who the foul was against, and not even the REFEREE knows who the foul was against.


The referee knows who he thinks the foul was against otherwise he wouldn't have called it. All I'm saying is that he doesn't have any obligation whatsoever to tell the players who it was against.
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afromanGT wrote:
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So. When the ref gives the foul there's nothing that says he must say who the foul was against.

The crux of this presentation is that WE don't knwo who the foul was against, YOU don't know who the foul was against, None of the PLAYERS know who the foul was against, and not even the REFEREE knows who the foul was against.


The referee knows who he thinks the foul was against otherwise he wouldn't have called it. All I'm saying is that he doesn't have any obligation whatsoever to tell the players who it was against.
and therein lies the problem, the lack of liability and the requirement to justify. too much power, not enough meaningful scrutiny.
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Simple fact of the matter is, nobody knows why he called the foul. And if you can't justify the call, there's something wrong.
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afromanGT wrote:
Simple fact of the matter is, nobody knows why he called the foul. And if you can't justify the call, there's something wrong.


He doesn't have to justify on the call on the pitch. He would have told his superiors after the match what is was for but he doesn't have to justify his decision while he's on the pitch.
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When he rules out a goal, blowing his whistle the second the ball is kicked, I want to know why.
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afromanGT wrote:
When he rules out a goal, blowing his whistle the second the ball is kicked, I want to know why.


Yeah you may want to know why as do I but does that really matter, no.

In the end as long as FIFA are happy with the reason as to why he ruled it out there's nothing else to it.

On the field all he has to tell the players is which way the free-kick is going, which he does with his hand signals. If he decided to elaborate on why the foul was given that's his choice.



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Can you or anyone else on here tell me why that goal was ruled out?
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afromanGT wrote:
Can you or anyone else on here tell me why that goal was ruled out?


Unless that referee has a relative on here then I don't think so. I can only assume it was for a foul on a Slovenian before the ball was played in.
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Well I watched the game twice, watched the various replays, watched it on youtube. And I still can't find a reason why the ref would have blown for a foul. Especailly at the time he did.
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afromanGT wrote:
Well I watched the game twice, watched the various replays, watched it on youtube. And I still can't find a reason why the ref would have blown for a foul. Especailly at the time he did.


All I can think it is, is something the Cameras didn't pick up and he hesitated a bit before blowing because he wasn't sure.

That's all I can think it could be but even that a stretching a long bow.
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The ref in the Chile vs Switzerland game was absolutely shocking.
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Lets go over these.

Last night. Switzerland: I believe a harsh red. Consequences: practically taking a Swiss win out of the equation. A big European team (Spain) and an exciting Sth American team (Chile) benefit, as they can throw their game to spain and practically still go thru with them!.

Brazil Red Card. Brazil already through to the second round. kaka on a yellow would likely be rested anyway. no real consequence. Sth American team ;)

Nzl Italy: Soft penalty helping a Big european team stay alive (my opinion 0-0 was a fair result)

Group D...

Serbia first game. DELIBRATE hand ball in the box, stopping a DEFINATE goal scoring oppotunity. ball would have fallen at feet of a Ghanian. All fair, but soft when looking at kewell incident!!!
Horrible for fifa if an african team doesnt make it thru.

Australia V Germany. Cahill off. Helps Germany and Ghana as cahill is gone from the next game.

V Ghana, Different Aussie side turns up! Australia have hope, Kewell our talisman is going alright. Sent off!! kills aussies chance at winning even thou they dominated the rest of the game. very Australian effort!



To me, if your not Sth American, or from a big Europe nation, 'things' are against you. and as i said 1 African team HAS to make it...

The disallowed goal in the USA game only helped England!!! gave them another back door at entry to the second round, Italy, England, Spain, Germany, Ghana, Chile all have had a helping hand!

Sorry we aren't from Europe or South America

Even thou Chile Deserve to be there

Edited by MaRtY-BeE: 22/6/2010 12:00:45 PM
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MaRtY-BeE wrote:
Group D...

Serbia first game. DELIBRATE hand ball in the box, stopping a DEFINATE goal scoring oppotunity. ball would have fallen at feet of a Ghanian. All fair, but soft when looking at kewell incident!!!
Horrible for fifa if an african team doesnt make it thru.

Australia V Germany. Cahill off. Helps Germany and Ghana as cahill is gone from the next game.

V Ghana, Different Aussie side turns up! Australia have hope, Kewell our talisman is going alright. Sent off!! kills aussies chance at winning even thou they dominated the rest of the game. very Australian effort!


The conspiracy theories need some reworking here in Group D, because they are apparantly helping 3 teams. Not sure why they'd do that.
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MaRtY-BeE wrote:
Lets go over these.

Last night. Switzerland: I believe a harsh red. Consequences: practically taking a Swiss win out of the equation. A big European team (Spain) and an exciting Sth American team (Chile) benefit, as they can throw their game to spain and practically still go thru with them!.

He threw his arm out. That's a red card any day of the week. Yeah the Chilean made a meal out of it but you can't throw your arms out like Behrami did. Refs love when players do that it's such an easy decision.


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Brazil Red Card. Brazil already through to the second round. kaka on a yellow would likely be rested anyway. no real consequence. Sth American team ;)


This is actually a pretty big disadvantage for Brazil. They wouldn't of rested Kaka for the next game because they don't want to lose to Portugal and risk finishing second. Ad that to the fact that Kaka is lacking match fitness and Brazil would have used the 3rd game to get him up to peak fitness.


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Serbia first game. DELIBRATE hand ball in the box, stopping a DEFINATE goal scoring oppotunity. ball would have fallen at feet of a Ghanian. All fair, but soft when looking at kewell incident!!!
Horrible for fifa if an african team doesnt make it thru.


It's not a red card though. The only way it is a red card is if the ball would have gone into the net if he didn't touch it which it wouldn't have. Wether the ball was going to a Ghanian or not is irrelevant the rules don't deal with what ifs. There's every chance the Ghanian would have missed.



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To me, if your not Sth American, or from a big Europe nation, 'things' are against you. and as i said 1 African team HAS to make it...

Slovenia are the smallest nation at this World Cup Finals and I'd say things went pretty well for them against the biggest country in the tournament the USA.


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The disallowed goal in the USA game only helped England!!! gave them another back door at entry to the second round, Italy, England, Spain, Germany, Ghana, Chile all have had a helping hand!


THis disallowed goal would only have helped England if they beat Algeria. Since they drew it doesn't help them at all. The only team it helped is Slovenia who now only need a draw to finish on top.
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The referees in this world cup have influenced the outcomes of too many games with bad decisions. That's bad refereeing. The standard is shocking for a world cup.
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