Thanks Teza :d :d :d

Edited by diego's son: 26/6/2010 10:36:15 AM

Hopefully the bandwagoners get along to some Phoenix games.

And all get shirtless. :D

agree with villaboy to an extent.

i thought bahrain were the better side in manama and it was quite fortuitous that they didn't manage to score a couple of goals, as with the penalty in wellington.

however, I thought we were better in wellington and in the latter stages of the game were unlucky to not push the score to 2-0 or 3-0.

having said that, I think bahrain would have been eaten alive in south africa. the determination and heart shown by our players was the factor missing from bahrain in the playoffs.

I also believe that our game will progress nicely, as for the first time ever, our age group teams have become competitive. Despite players like reid and smith being quite raw at the moment (smith especially) we have a solid base to build on. Barring injury, i expect these players will be crucial at WC 2018 in australia =)

No you get slammed on the Fever site because sometimes like us all (including myself) you are a knob:)

i agree moxstar...

but big ups to all them who have sat back and got a wee bit excited and smiled at how well we have done...

What the fuck is with all the bitter anti New Zealand shit in this thread/forum ??

Granted the vast majority of people here are saying congrats to new zealand and good on them..

But i dont see the need for the arrogant comments saying how shit they are (Granted its the same people everytime)

Guessing the same people thought it was a joke when they made it into the world cup.. and thought they would get thrashed by 6 goals every game...

Their team was made up of mainly A-League/Phoenix players.. ONE? Prem player .. 2-3 ? without clubs.. hell one of their players had to get time off from his work as a banker to play in the world cup.

And they played with more heart and soul than probably any team in the group stages

And to think that a few months ago I was slammed on Yellow Fever for raising this very idea.

Well there you go.

I have no problems if NZ and the rest of Oceania went to North or South America.

Flying Auckland to (say) Los Angeles or Buenos Aires would be less travel time than say Auckland to Damascus, Syria.

Edited by diego's son: 26/6/2010 04:10:51 AM

and the time difference to South america concacaf is better, ie we would not be playing at bedtime... thats half the reason the nux, breakers and the warriors + the netball girls are mediocre on their travels

north Korea may have tried to push up and score against portugal... tatically inept, maybe they need a dutch coach

10+ years i said

and yeap we would get smashed just like we were sposed to by Italy papraguay and slovakia...

I mean shit NZ vs Japan or korea or NZ versus Mexico or Brazil hmmmm not much difference to travel and alot better quality of football

you asians are so arrogant

Come on, guys.

NZ are an increasingly quality side - who will consistently challenge the fifth place Asian side if the system stays the same every four years.

I can't see too many fifth place Asian sides being as weak as Bahrain, however. Saudi Arabia & Iran missed out this time - would they again?

Ahhh, a voice of reason. :d

So you agree that you were not the better team?? I am not trying to put anyone down. I am very proud of the way NZ handled themselves after being written off by everyone, but it sounds to me like cuzzy is trying to say that NZ are better than Bahrain and Nth Korea. Unless I have just fed the troll.......again.

I'm very pleased with the results of the Kiwis during the WC. However, their future lies in not only re-vitalising their local football culture, but structurally playing in a competitive confederation.

When Aust had to qualify over the many previous campaigns through the hard South American 5th place stage (and I went to see losses against Argentina [yes when Diego was still playing at the Sydney Football Stadium playoff], then a failed campaign vs Uruguay with the final 2005 triumph over the same said team, Aust were sick of the lottery system of play-offs. A move to a competitive confederation is the only way forward. Asia was the way forward.

Oceania is a non-entity in the World Cup stage. The Kiwi's can rely on play-offs with a 5th place team, but you don't get to really progress unless your domestic players play week in week out in the best leagues and you need real competition in the international stage. I think playing 5th placed Bahrain is much better than a South American qualifier, but who knows what the rules will change in the future. It might change back to South America especially if South America features well in this World Cup, their federation may negotiate a further seat at Brasil 2014 and beyond AND maybe a playoff with the Oceania winner.

it was bahrain's inability to neither park the bus nor get lucky which stopped them going thru.

North Korea had as good a show as you guys against Brazil. They only got spanked against Portugal because they tried to push up to score.
On the balance of play, Bahrain were better than you guys. Once again you parked the bus and got lucky.
Dont get me wrong, I took massive enjoyment watching you guys frustrate the hell out of opposition that did not rate you, but please, try to talk sense.

WHAT??!! For starters, do you really think it will take 10 years for NZ to be of Cantral or South American standard?? And what do you mean "go for central america or south america"?? In what geographical sense are you going to play in either central or south america?? What does NZ have to offer SA or CA so that they might accept this??
Top 4 in SA go through to the cup. Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile.
Top 3 go through go through to the cup. Mexico, USA, Honduras.
5th place SA, play 4th place CA to go through. Uruguay V Costa Rica. Uruguay won, so went through.
Teams that missed out - CA - Costa Rica, El Salvador, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica.
SA - Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru. The only SA nation without WC experience is Venezuela.

In most, if not all, of these countries, football is even bigger than Rugby is in NZ. Why would they want NZ??? Do you really think NZ has a qualification path through either of these confederations??

CONCACAF does have some weaker sides, but, as I said before, in what geographical sense could you possibly play in this confederation. And even if by some miracle, it was allowed
YOU WOULD STILL GET SMASHED!!

It is not a 2 legged play off, or one off games that you can play for pride (draws, whatever you want to call them). It is a long qualification process starting with 35 teams.

NZ have already shown that they can be competitive against Asian opposition. Integrating Oceania into Asia is the only realistic way that NZ can get a higher number of competitive football games, and have a CHANCE at consistantly qualifying for the Cup.

NZ have no hope when it comes to CONMBOL qualifiaction, and only a slight hope with the geographically unrealistic CONCACAF.

obviously North Korea are not up to it and we did Fifa a favour by beating Bahrain, the 5th best asian team may have had Isner/Mahut type of score against them...

Sorry to all sain aussie fans out there... just poking the stick back at master maradona

settle down little chief, you seem to be taking potshots at new zealand more than anything. while you may not like the delivery, my point is true in stating that while our qualification route may have been too easy for your liking in comparison to australia's, both teams have met their demise at the same stage. I believe our boys showed the world that we deserved our spot, and as a result our dependence on the A-League is weakening.

Why would you want us out of the HAL anyway? NZ seems to be the only country willing to give the league's players an opportunity at international level.

Considering that FIFA dates allow 2 games (i.e. Saturday and Wednesday) then the 'third game' you are proposing above wouldn't work. And anyway, considering NZ takes a pot shot at every opportunity at Australia, why the f..k would we want to help you out. Look at your first sentence being in asia clearly got you far further than us, didn't it? well if that's the attutude you guys have for us, then f..k you, why should we assist.

Form your own professional league, even your Chairman wants out of "Australia's shadows" as he put it the other day. If that's the case then sever all relations and the Phoenix can play in a local professional comp that you guys set up.

regarding qualification, it's not our fault that we got to the world cup. being in asia clearly got you far further than us, didn't it?

concerning NZ vs Australia, i believe that instead of playing each other more regularly, we should use our proximity to eachother as a method of pulling big sides by offering a 2 for 1 kind of deal. Take argentina for example. Instead of NZ not being able to afford to bring Argentina out, NZ and Aus should work together to get NZ vs Argentina in NZ, then Aus v Arg over in australia a few days later. then, a NZv Aus could tie it up nicely, if we felt like making a tri-series of it.

Australia topped its groups in both phases...

Still the circumstances between 2005 (for Aus) and 2009 (for NZ) were completely different, which is the true point of my post.

Your right, beating the 5th placed Asain side in a playoff is a ridiculously easy route. How did you guys go with that path again?

kings of football.

I'm really happy for all the Kiwis on this forum. Well done!

i think i have recovered... I agree with Ryan.. I am gutted...

we are not the best or the prettiest team going but we can compete...

yawn re asia, go for central america or south america, I would rather we spent ten years + getting to their standards than go to asia...

and all them people who say about NZ vs Australia, sometimes a neighbour is all you have got when you live in the middle of nowhere...

All Whites v Socceroos ought not to be played very often at all as neither has anything to learn from the other. Both nations need to be playing against European, African and South American teams whenever they can.

Yet never thrashed 0-4 ?

We played Uruguay, you played Bahrain.

We had 4 days between games,and to get played from Montevideo to Sydney in between. You had 1 month in between games.

Not your fault, that lies with the powers that be.