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BusbyBabe
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If it was anyone else they would be calling for it.
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SlyGoat36
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He shoots, he cums all over Harry's bum its Jermaine Defoe!!!
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dizzy_red
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benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:Look, Mike Jones being a cunt aside, we can't ignore Mike Jones being a complete and utter cunt. We'd probably enjoy some consistency, so if Adam was going to get a yellow for tugging Modric's shirt, then Kaboul's on Suarez on the edge of the box was a yellow. For example.
That was hardly even a free kick, Suarez is a sack of shit who should have got a red at half time, did he miss the "respect" message. I wouldn't call it a card when it was just a free kick with Suarez simulating. What was Liverpools problem? They lost it completely with discipline. Lost a heap of respect for Lucas, every time Pool got a free kick he was in the referees face demanding cards. Get over it sweetheart. He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway. Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played. Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
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benelsmore wrote:Also to add to my new found dislike of Suarez, what kind of low life elbows another player in the throat? Lucky boy to stay on the pitch after that sort of nonsence. Kenny needs to sit him down and destroy his ego a bit because imagine if Liverpool went down to 8? http://i56.tinypic.com/2llm178.pngparker indicating to suarez he would destroy him later after suarez elbowed him in the throat. parker > suarez.
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melihserbest wrote:benelsmore wrote:Also to add to my new found dislike of Suarez, what kind of low life elbows another player in the throat? Lucky boy to stay on the pitch after that sort of nonsence. Kenny needs to sit him down and destroy his ego a bit because imagine if Liverpool went down to 8? http://i56.tinypic.com/2llm178.pngparker indicating to suarez he would destroy him later after suarez elbowed him in the throat. parker > suarez. Looks more like Parker's going up to the ref, "It was him sir, book him sir, it was him!" But yeah, didn't see it, but Suarez is a prick.
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dizzy_red
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BusbyBabe wrote:If it was anyone else they would be calling for it. Well, you're fundamentally, and horribly, wrong - and the main reason is that there's only one manager, with one of the shortest stays ever, who wasn't wanted and was put in place as a yes-man by owners desperately trying to cling onto the club, who received that treatment. And he's just been thrashed 3-0 by Swansea and produced a team with consistently poor performances. There was more spirit in the players than any kind of skill in the wins that Hodgson produced. Every other manager since Kenny's last spell has managed us until their natural end and received the support of the fans: Souness, Evans, Houllier, Rafa - they've all been given a fair chance because they had the blessing of the fans. Besides which, this is the first game where we've actually played badly. Regardless of the result at Sunderland (inexperienced RB giving away his zone) or the failures at Stoke (failure to convert, but dominated the game), this is the best we've looked since the 2008 start.
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BusbyBabe
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dizzy :roll:
I was having a laugh mate.
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dizzy_red
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:melihserbest wrote:benelsmore wrote:Also to add to my new found dislike of Suarez, what kind of low life elbows another player in the throat? Lucky boy to stay on the pitch after that sort of nonsence. Kenny needs to sit him down and destroy his ego a bit because imagine if Liverpool went down to 8? http://i56.tinypic.com/2llm178.pngparker indicating to suarez he would destroy him later after suarez elbowed him in the throat. parker > suarez. Looks more like Parker's going up to the ref, "It was him sir, book him sir, it was him!" But yeah, didn't see it, but Suarez is a prick. Parker gives as good as he gets. Suarez wasn't even looking where he put the elbow. Bad luck. In an era of footballers who go down like a sack of shit when they're breathed on and act like children with grazed knees, frankly it's great that we have a bit of the Souness back in our team.
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dizzy_red
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BusbyBabe wrote:dizzy :roll:
I was having a laugh mate. I can't ever tell with you. :o
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Dang... must have been a painful game to watch. :( Top 4 is a must.
Edited by ryan2008: 19/9/2011 12:19:35 PM
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BETHFC
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dizzy_red wrote:
He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway.
Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played.
Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
Thats because he goes down way too easy. Really his own problem. I disagree with Adam's first yellow, it was only a free kick. His second well i've seen straight reds for less.
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We had 9 fouls for 6 yellows, they had 10 fouls for 1 yellow. Make of that what you will.
No excuse for the poor performance, but I thought Jones had a bit of a mare.
At least they'll all be back for the game v Wolves. Especially hope Kelly is back.
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imnofreak wrote:We had 9 fouls for 6 yellows, they had 10 fouls for 1 yellow. Make of that what you will.
No excuse for the poor performance, but I thought Jones had a bit of a mare.
At least they'll all be back for the game v Wolves. Especially hope Kelly is back. ill admit, the ref was very card happy in the first half. they must have told him to calm down at half time or something. i dont think though its any justification for the tackles, they were quite bad. performance was a shocker. I was impressed with Coates though. For a first timer he looked right at home, the others need to pull weight. Skrtel is not a right back, especially not against Bale. And im just saying, but Carroll is shite. He may have been good at newcastle, but he does not fit the liverpool system and the way liverpool should play. if i was kenny i would have played Gerrard and Aqua infront of Lucas. Not Adam and Gerrard and not Henderson and Gerrard. Adam has not impressed me at all.
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BETHFC
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How can you attack Carroll after a match where he went closest to scoring and had absolutely zero service?
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benelsmore wrote:How can you attack Carroll after a match where he went closest to scoring and had absolutely zero service? for 35 mill i expect the lad to be banging in goals and not coming close. even when he has the ball at his feet, he just looks poor. so many times last night he lost the ball and just looked so awkward on the field. its not just last night, its most of the game. Edited by zimbos_05: 19/9/2011 03:14:15 PM
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afromanGT
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imnofreak wrote:We had 9 fouls for 6 yellows, they had 10 fouls for 1 yellow. Make of that what you will.
No excuse for the poor performance, but I thought Jones had a bit of a mare.
At least they'll all be back for the game v Wolves. Especially hope Kelly is back. I've already expressed my disdain for the refereeing this season, no surprise that the week after KD publicly complains about the refereeing we cop the short end of the stick again. That doesn't excuse the performance as a whole though. So many of the side were poor and we just looked gutless for most of the game.
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dizzy_red
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benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:
He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway.
Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played.
Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
Thats because he goes down way too easy. Really his own problem. I disagree with Adam's first yellow, it was only a free kick. His second well i've seen straight reds for less. Yeah, so it's okay for officials to be intentionally biased against a player because of a perception that he goes down too easily? On the other hand, he's so annoyingly good in the box, he actually gets taken down a lot. Nani and Berbatov both go down like sacks of shit when they get breathed on - much worse than Suarez. Why aren't they subjects?
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BusbyBabe
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Nani has had countless cautions for dives and rightly so.
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Gooner4life_8
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dizzy_red wrote:Gooner4life_8 wrote:melihserbest wrote:benelsmore wrote:Also to add to my new found dislike of Suarez, what kind of low life elbows another player in the throat? Lucky boy to stay on the pitch after that sort of nonsence. Kenny needs to sit him down and destroy his ego a bit because imagine if Liverpool went down to 8? http://i56.tinypic.com/2llm178.pngparker indicating to suarez he would destroy him later after suarez elbowed him in the throat. parker > suarez. Looks more like Parker's going up to the ref, "It was him sir, book him sir, it was him!" But yeah, didn't see it, but Suarez is a prick. Parker gives as good as he gets. Suarez wasn't even looking where he put the elbow. Bad luck. In an era of footballers who go down like a sack of shit when they're breathed on and act like children with grazed knees, frankly it's great that we have a bit of the Souness back in our team. And Suarez is that? The same Suarez that puts his elbow into player's necks, the same Suarez that dives and bites people?
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Suarez can elbow and bite as many people as he wants, just as long as he scores goals
As for Carroll, I didn't think he played that badly yesterday, we were playing with 9 men! I agree with what Bozza said after the match, KD should play the same 11 (minus Adam and Skrtel obviously) against Brighton and try get some confidence back.
Edited by parle_ku: 19/9/2011 09:23:00 PM
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BETHFC
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dizzy_red wrote:benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:
He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway.
Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played.
Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
Thats because he goes down way too easy. Really his own problem. I disagree with Adam's first yellow, it was only a free kick. His second well i've seen straight reds for less. Yeah, so it's okay for officials to be intentionally biased against a player because of a perception that he goes down too easily? On the other hand, he's so annoyingly good in the box, he actually gets taken down a lot. Nani and Berbatov both go down like sacks of shit when they get breathed on - much worse than Suarez. Why aren't they subjects? No disagreements, i'd add Hernandez, Nasri, Bale and Wallcott to that list. I feel its something that needs to be stamped out of the game. Perhaps a yellow for simulation every time would do the trick.
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benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:
He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway.
Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played.
Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
Thats because he goes down way too easy. Really his own problem. I disagree with Adam's first yellow, it was only a free kick. His second well i've seen straight reds for less. Yeah, so it's okay for officials to be intentionally biased against a player because of a perception that he goes down too easily? On the other hand, he's so annoyingly good in the box, he actually gets taken down a lot. Nani and Berbatov both go down like sacks of shit when they get breathed on - much worse than Suarez. Why aren't they subjects? No disagreements, i'd add Hernandez, Nasri, Bale and Wallcott to that list. I feel its something that needs to be stamped out of the game. Perhaps a yellow for simulation every time would do the trick. A yellow card for every single dive would ruin matches. There would continually be games abandoned because of teams not having enough players on the pitch.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:benelsmore wrote:dizzy_red wrote:
He grabbed his shirt when he was turning and pulled him over. Watch the replay. It was exactly the same situation as Adam's shirt pull - the attacker had bettered the defender and was going to get away, so he got his shirt pulled. The only difference was that Suarez was in a scoring position, and Adam was close to halfway.
Suarez has a reputation that precedes him. Referees have a problem with him, and they have done since the first game he played.
Edited by dizzy_red: 19/9/2011 11:30:27 AM
Thats because he goes down way too easy. Really his own problem. I disagree with Adam's first yellow, it was only a free kick. His second well i've seen straight reds for less. Yeah, so it's okay for officials to be intentionally biased against a player because of a perception that he goes down too easily? On the other hand, he's so annoyingly good in the box, he actually gets taken down a lot. Nani and Berbatov both go down like sacks of shit when they get breathed on - much worse than Suarez. Why aren't they subjects? No disagreements, i'd add Hernandez, Nasri, Bale and Wallcott to that list. I feel its something that needs to be stamped out of the game. Perhaps a yellow for simulation every time would do the trick. A yellow card for every single dive would ruin matches. There would continually be games abandoned because of teams not having enough players on the pitch. Pretty much like if every player who showed dissent got a yellow card...
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dizzy_red
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BusbyBabe wrote:Nani has had countless cautions for dives and rightly so. Countless... you can't count them because they don't exist? Nani has had FOUR cautions (and two reds) in his entire EPL career. And do we really have to go back to this? [youtube]WlSA0Xmh174[/youtube]
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BusbyBabe
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dizzy_red wrote:And do we really have to go back to this? We don't have to but your obsession with United seems to take you back to these things.
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dizzy_red
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BusbyBabe wrote:dizzy_red wrote:And do we really have to go back to this? We don't have to but your obsession with United seems to take you back to these things. Well, except it's evidence of the countless cautions Nani has received for diving... ...you said it, bro. Countless cautions for diving. Where are they? Oh, except it doesn't happen. Protip: it's not an obsession if it's the one leaping out at you.
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BusbyBabe
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Ok maybe not cautions but he is regarded as one of the biggest divers in the league. He gets more shit than anyone but you don't agree?
Suarez had one or two dives and people called him on it. That is life, it doesn't mean he cops more than Berbatov and Nani.
(Please tell me you googled the number of cautions, because if you knew that off the top off your head you have problems:d)
EDIT: Just looked it up, he has had 12 yellows.
Edited by busbybabe: 20/9/2011 10:02:05 AM
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dizzy_red
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I do think he gets a lot of shit, yeah... but unfortunately, not from the right people. I think the standards are far too subjective. Remember when Ozil took a dive in the WC and got a card? More of that, please.
Suarez is nowhere near as bad as Nani. I have yet to see the rolling around on the floor or multiple Klinsmanns that Nani does.
And yes, I looked up the cautions on Soccerway. :P
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dizzy_red
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BusbyBabe wrote:
EDIT: Just looked it up, he has had 12 yellows.
Edited by busbybabe: 20/9/2011 10:02:05 AM
Er, not even on the official site does he have that many. http://www.premierleague.com/page/PlayerProfile/0,,12306~34211,00.html
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