I'm not saying that the club shouldn't be criticised, and the players should be, but 'Seriously' lacks credibility even when it comes to issues about Newcastle and most of his stuff he is spouting crap, like Kewell, wtf that was about 3 years ago before we challenged for the title in 09 and Riise was shit at the back end of his career and he was saying that's why Liverpool are shit? like the guy is talking crap... like criticise but actually have some logic and proper reasoning behind the criticism

=d> =d> =d>

now that really is out of the blue... brilliant and bizarre

Perception is everything in football:

Crouch
- 22 goals from 85 games @ Liverpool = Failure
- 8 goals from 45 games @Tottenham = Success

Also:
- Liverpool qualify for CL 3/4 years after 25m transfers in 4 years = Failure
- Tottenham quality for CL 1/4 year after 80m transfers in 4 years = Success

This is absolutely true.

I wouldn't call any of those players 'quality'. None of those players would bring anything to the club and Richards will stay at City because he's their only HG player who sees any kind of match time.

Liverpool right now need to re-build. They've got Meireles in to replace Alonso in terms of style of play. But no Mascherano replacement is obviously proving problematic. No adequate holding midfielder is creating a schism between the midfield and attacking players because the midfield has to sit deeper.

A bid for Rooney, although definitely not legitimate would definitely ruffel some feathers and announce some kind of ambition from the club. It's not like it could further undermine Hodgson's integrity either.

Joe Hart, Wayne Bridge, Joleon Lescott, James Milner, Adam Johnson and Gareth Barry not seeing enough game time for your liking :lol:

The whole farking team is sitting so deep. You can tell the emphasis is on sitting back and knocking it around, and as clubs know we are weak right now, they put us under pressure and don't let us do that, naturally. We need to go out there and do the pressing. We need to go out there and attack and push forward and create chances. We have scored FOUR goals from open play all farking season. We can afford to have defensive frailties as long as we are scoring up the other end.

ATTTAAAAAACK. For gods sake.

That's great. How many of those were trained by the club? You know, in the outside chance that they manage to control their excessive losses enough to qualify for the champions league...

They'll cross that bridge when they get to it somehow. Probably won't come to that what with their spending and all.

We're making concessions for Mascherano's absence and sitting deeper, almost playing how Fulham used to under Hodgson. However we're paying the price for a clear lack of attacking cohesion and we really need to up our game. We need a decent holding midfielder come January and we need to bring in that second striker. ASAP.

It would make more sense to make allowances for it now, rather than go 'oh shit, waht do we do now?' next year.

Well apart from Richards they do have Joe Hart, Nedum Onohua and Michael Johnson as well as Kelvin Etuhu and Shaun Wright Phillips. As well as Vladimir Weiss. The players are there just not consistent starting XI players

Second striker is extremely important. We need someone to take the focus off Torres. Someone like Carlton Cole....

Someone who can't even get into the West Ham starting XI:lol:

Michael Johnson doesn't count yet. And why would they include players like Weiss, Etuhu and Onouha who don't get game time when Richards does?

Neither could Javier Mascherano. Jus' sayin' :-"

That was more down to discontent as opposed to not being good enough.

I'm not saying they would include them, just saying that they do have the players if they need to in a pinch.

Not really. He wasn't playing well for them and wasn't making the grade. It was cause and effect.

Well Vladimir Weiss is on loan at Rangers with an option to buy. They'll probably take it. Ditto Onouha at Southampton.

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Poulsen, fanfucking tastic. Lucas and Meireles have been left out too.

---------Ngog-------
Jova------Cole-----Maxi
---Poulsen---Shelvey
Kon--Skrtel-Carra-Kelly
---------Reina

What a shcoking team.

----Babel----Ngog----
----------Cole---------
Jova---------------Maxi
---------Poulsen

Maybe like that.

Bringing across the page.

Edited by imnofreak: 20/10/2010 08:29:43 PM

Goalkeepers: 3
Defenders: 7
Defensive Midfielders: 3
Attacking midfielders: 6
Strikers: 1

If Poulsen starts in this game AND on the weekend I will cry.

get Jonjo in there... as someone said previously about Carlton Cole i will seriously go skitso if we sign him, like he's struggling in a struggling team, the question i have is what sort of player upfront do we need to sign, a second striker similar to say a Luis Garcia role, an out and out striker like Carlton Cole, or a big target man like Crouch...

personally I'd love to have Llorente, Crouch isn't realistic because he wouldn't leave Spurs under Arry and while playing Champions League football in London... Llorente gives us an aerial option and decent on the ground too, ideally i'd have Llorente AND a second striker/poacher/natural goalscorer, although a few come to mind i don't see them as a realistic option in the short term

hopeful at best

You're missing the bic picture here.














How are we supposed to win without LUCAS!?!?

In answer to your question about a striker, I think we need a big, strong, quick player. Somebody who will hustle and bustle the defenders and wreak some havoc.

Tevez :-k :lol:

to think Lucas is an important cog in this team now is baffling

Just read some of the debate on the previous page having posted a jesus wept comment after reading the first page

Roy's system is very much as described there - two banks of four - sitting back and waiting for teams to come on to them

the problem is the squad hasn't been built for that - to cope with sitting back and letting a team coming onto to you need (i) pace to cope with switched play and teams passing around and through you (ii) tacklers to win the ball back without pressing (iii) aerially dominant centre backs to cope with the inevitably higher amount of crosses you will receive into the box

we have a dearth of these - our central midfielders might put the foot in, but gerrard and mereiles won't do it consistently, and neither lucas or poulsen will get across the ground as quickly as mascher would

our usual wide players have no pace at all and at least one of our full-backs was bought to work in a high-pressing, high possession pressure team

skrtel and agger have never really convinced me in the air, and carra and greek who are both decent in that area are both slow and are used to getting better protection from midfield and a compact 4-5-1 than they get at present

the team as currently constituted needs to go back to the high-pressing, high possesion control-the-game type play that we've done well for the past 5 years and less of this 'concede ground in the middle, sit back and wait for them to come at you, and hit the big man when you get the ball type tactic'

I mean if by some miracle we did get 4th in the next season or two under roy can anybody seriously see that working in the champions league - we'd be a laughing stock and the copenhagens and bate's of this world would be looking forward to having a real go at us (because we would let them)

Saw this on LFC... great post I think.

Sorry, I forgot to add the LOL JKS