Thanks.

What I was referring to is one of our FFE role model players, 15 years of age, who just represented Australia at the world Viking futsal championships, was told by his club coach in the under 19s, that players who enjoy football don't win!!!!
:-s

The same coach, R, has been instructing his team to run for 50 minutes without the ball, then do 25 minutes tactical work.
Where are the SSGs?

No matter that the team is wining a lot of games, his team's players are disillusioned. Ironically, another of the prospective FFE coaches is a mate of his and suggested he come to FFE to help.
No way!!!!! He is part of the problem, not the solution!!!

There are other coaches at other senior clubs who are giving young players no game time for any team, sitting on the bench, whilst others are playing for three different teams.
](*,)

Sometimes the good work done by junior coaches (under 12 and downwards) is being undone by coaches in senior clubs (under 13s to seniors).

It is difficult for FFA through Han Berger to police this.

We want our state TD to observe some of these inappropriate practices to realise some of the bad practices occurring. Unfortunately he is very busy and is always moving up and down the state from south to north.

Edited by Decentric: 26/5/2011 03:09:47 PM

Agreed, and moved.

I don't think it is necessarily a negative, but they need to be provided with resources which make their own inexperience relatively irrelevant - especially if it included a DVD which showed how things should look when done properly.

This post has been a source of a massive polemic between a NTC (institute) coach and me on another blog.

I hope this is not a wind up, STFA Striker, because I've taken it at face value!!!

:roll:

I wonder if one of the mods could move this thread to the Performance section as it w could be revisited over time. GA has suggested the value to Performance section before. I agree with him.


This subject may be less topical here now.



Due to circumstances I've had quite a lot to do with FFA state branch since this thread started.

In response to your comment, GA, I think some suburban junior coaches with a good attitude, who know little about football, may be better for the game than some of the knowledgeable coaches taking youth/senior teams with the wrong attitude.

How?

Some knowledgeable youth/senior coaches who pursue winning at all costs, can discourage players' enthusiasm for football. Enjoyment and playing with friends is very important for people wanting to continue to play football.

That's an ignorant statement. The best teacher's are usually those who set our to teach to begin with.

why are u people talking about this still ! ffs

It is not a question of accountability.

Nor is it a question of money. I may have an adequate retirement pension.

If one coaches a squad of 16 players in season, one has limited access to players within the football community.

The development option is one we've undertaken to access many more players during a season. We would like to think we are providing players with the medium to take what they learn in FFE, back to their clubs/junior teams and mates in the playground. This is a dissemination of knowledge and skills.

Han Berger's lieutenants see it the same way too.

Massive salary. Must be up there amongst the biggest earners in strayan sport. Second biggest snout in the FFA trough. I'm simply keen to understand if the strayan sockah communtity ae getting value for their money.



Too hard to quantify. Paper shuffling jobs are a bit like that. Ask any public servant.



The $64 unanswered question.

The feedback you received does indicate one thing; no one exactly knows what Boultbee does between the hours of 9 to 5 Mon to Fri. Certainly matches the info passed on to me from my well-informed sources.

Edited by judy free: 13/5/2011 11:14:45 AM

I think our local TD and his two assistants are probably doing a great job. The first time guys in these positions at state FFA have done a great job. These guys are on no gravy train. They are working with missionary zeal to enhance the reputation of FFA local branch, even admitting image problems in the past. They are moving ever forwards, not backwards. Community football stakeholders are blown out by the new coaching regime's enthusiasm and willingness to assist.

Having said that a goalkeeper on this forum hasn't heard from Football Federation Victoria for over a year regarding a Tony Franken keeping workshop. He has applied repeatedly for the workshop.


What I was hoping for is more of a specific job description to answer Barca 4 Life's questions.

Boultbee's role within FFA can be subdivided into three issues.

1. His remuneration,
2. How hard he works.
3. His job description.

He could be a great fixer/problem solver. None of us know a definitive answer and can only speculate.

The way life works is that some may adhere to principles of altruism, benevolence and philanthropy. Obviously you don't believe in them.

Not everybody is out to exploit others and make money out of everything at other people's expense. There are concepts such as egalitarianism, assimilation and humanism. Some see football as a vehicle to promote these principles.

I do.

:d

You honestly didn't believe that some remotely located fellow rider of the FFA gravy train was gonna dump on his mainland mates, did you?

All these blokes just wanna get on with life without making waves. They'll keep flying under the radar, collecting their pay cheques and telling anyone who cares to asks how great a job they're all doing.

It's the way life works, decentric.

The information I received today was no real explanation of John Boultbee's role, other than he is a bit of a fixer in all areas in FFA.

Good point.
':)


It would be great for someone from FFA to provide an answer to your questions, Barca4Life.

According to our state FFA TD, Han Berger is totally transfixed on technical development to the exclusion of everything else.

In terms of implementation of it, I don't know. I'll ask the state TD if he knows who does what, as we will be meeting with him on Thursday.





Edited by Decentric: 12/5/2011 10:15:41 PM

Kenny Dalglish, Brian Robson, Terry Venables, John Toshack, Kevin Keegan, Ronald Koeman, Frank Rijkaard, Riuud Gullit, Marco Van Basten, and Johan Cruyff were all quality players who enjoyed success as football coaches.


Being a former top player and being a successful coach doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

The lack of accountability is right up your alley decentric as is the money making potential.

Shouldnt your daughter be a matilda by now?

Excellent that you've done those menial chores, not known about by people who haven't done them. All associations, clubs, need this type of person to make things function. This is why to me, the social player enjoying football is just as important as the elite player. A number of them become referees, administrators and general helpers when they retire from the game.

A number of coaches like the development option. That is where there is no pressure on winning games, being hassled by disgruntled parents, omitting players from squads, having to try and control deviant parents at matches (my pet hate), etc.

I've never enjoyed coaching as much as I am at this point in time.


In terms of accountability/success evaluation by others, I can see why Baan and Berger have focused on the elite first. Apparently only about half of one percent of footballers across the globe, graduate to playing at a level higher than their local league.

In this state this equates to a premier league. This is analogous to a state league dichotomy - one in the north and one in the south. That figure was quoted by the last Tassie TD.
It means less than one percent will play at a higher level than the local premier leagues. This figure gets down to one out of every two or three hundred players playing at a higher level.

Those 199 or 299 players who don't make it are important.



Edited by Decentric: 10/5/2011 12:39:19 PM

Ok I've gone through the John Boltbee thread and how it explains that he has more responsibility for the "technical" reforms of the game, so does Han Berger still have a say in that or not??? Does hes role change? Does he still have a say with the implantation of the FFA ciriculum???

Those who can do ... those who can't teach/coach. Seems accurate

I've never been interested in coaching. I've done my bit as a player, and done my bit at doing the nitty gritty things that keep grass roots football going- marking out pitches, putting up nets, washing shirts, etc. Happy to be an observer and a fan now.

Coaching has always seemed a bit of a hassle to me... even when you are winning things, there is always someone, somewhere, not happy or whingeing about something. Credit to those of you who do coach, of course, but it is not for me.

What I'm now seeing is a welcome zeal by a new coaching regime in our new state branch of FFA. They are working flat out to assist Berger's implementation of the new FFA coaching programme and to educate, train and assist local coaches.

I suppose what also pleases me is that they perceive our Football For Everyone school as being part of that plan. The fundamental tenets under which FFE was conceived was in response to lackadaisical Tassie FFA branch coaching regimes of the past. Tassie FFA intend to assist us with equipment and public liability insurance.

Although essentially commercial, they are also bringing Brazilian Soccer Schools and Coerver under loose Tassie FFA jurisdiction too.

':d'





Edited by Decentric: 12/5/2011 10:13:43 PM

chips brings the :lol: :lol: :lol:

Umm, never gonna happen.

People like decentric prefer to live in that unaccountable fairyland under the guise of a "player development" coach. A land were you can crap on about text book bollox until your nose bleeds. A land where you can associate yourself with current football trends and fashions and feel as an equal to Ferguson, Jose, Pep and Arsene. A land where you can theorise from dawn to dusk but never challenged to prove anything on the park. A land where league tables are non existant. A land where you can always find some tenuous link to a player doing well and claim said player as a product of your coaching. A land where you can never ever lose.

The KNVB match analysis training helps considerably for live matches.

Ultimately, I coach best with a co-coach or assistant who has had a great deal of experience.

Vast experience fused with thorough tactical training in formations and match analysis training is a potent combination.

Han Berger is not wasting money, but setting out to train many well trained coaches.

Edited by Decentric: 9/5/2011 03:41:11 PM

Localstar, just as you are perplexed at my passion for theory, I am also perplexed by your lack of interest in coaching football.

You are a passionate fan at live matches.

You must have been a decent footballer, having played at senior state league level.

You are a consistent visitor to football forums.

If you did a a coaching course too, you would probably be a valuable asset for young footballers. Just what Han Berger would like in the system.

Of course I can't judge you on your ability to handle kids though, although one can always seek advice on child management.

This is a very sage post.


We need you coaching GA.

There seems to be a level of confusion here. Though kids can learn things on their own via trial and error, is it not more conducive to help them by teaching them? If you must rely on every top level footballer to reinvent the wheel every time then they are wasting valuable developmental potential on things they can be taught as opposed to discover. Berger appears to be trying to cause a push towards this situation, ie techniques and skills that are teachable are taught, the kids then apply these techniques in game situations where they must adapt them to the real world in order to be successful, there by reinforcing sound practices through situational discovery.

Note I am not taking sides here in the ongoing debate but looking at how Berger could be looking at changing the focus of youth player development in Australia in general.

Edited by General Ashnak: 9/5/2011 02:53:49 PM

Ill give Decentric this, his commitment to books and attending training courses is second to none. Probably wouldnt be a bad bloke to have as backroom staff if your were head coach.

At the end of the day the proof is in the pudding an did love to see his performance on match day and how he would deal with issues across the park

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On the contrary.

These brazalian techniques were created on the streets.



Your point?