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YerNathanael wrote:El Toro wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:As highlighted by Mulvey and Dobson, things changed when Mckay became available. Our budget was actually a bit lower than what we are using on wages. The club had to dip in to the marketing budget to support the signing of Matty.
So i think on our limited budget, we were always only going to get a state league player. Well then the Bakries ownership is about as useless as tits on a bull It wouldn't matter if we had Roman Abramovich as our owner. We only have little cap space left so therefore we can only afford a player with low wage demands. Not talking about cap space, talking about using the marketing budget to pay the marquee wages outside the cap. Surely the Bakries can sanction Matty's wages without the club dipping into other areas! What's the point of rich owners if the club is run on a shoestring budget?
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El Toro wrote:YerNathanael wrote:El Toro wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:As highlighted by Mulvey and Dobson, things changed when Mckay became available. Our budget was actually a bit lower than what we are using on wages. The club had to dip in to the marketing budget to support the signing of Matty.
So i think on our limited budget, we were always only going to get a state league player. Well then the Bakries ownership is about as useless as tits on a bull It wouldn't matter if we had Roman Abramovich as our owner. We only have little cap space left so therefore we can only afford a player with low wage demands. Not talking about cap space, talking about using the marketing budget to pay the marquee wages outside the cap. Surely the Bakries can sanction Matty's wages without the club dipping into other areas! What's the point of rich owners if the club is run on a shoestring budget? Signing a marquee player is also a strategy of marketing. If we were penny pinching why on earth would we have two marquees and the salary cap almost full?
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El Toro
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:El Toro wrote:YerNathanael wrote:El Toro wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:As highlighted by Mulvey and Dobson, things changed when Mckay became available. Our budget was actually a bit lower than what we are using on wages. The club had to dip in to the marketing budget to support the signing of Matty.
So i think on our limited budget, we were always only going to get a state league player. Well then the Bakries ownership is about as useless as tits on a bull It wouldn't matter if we had Roman Abramovich as our owner. We only have little cap space left so therefore we can only afford a player with low wage demands. Not talking about cap space, talking about using the marketing budget to pay the marquee wages outside the cap. Surely the Bakries can sanction Matty's wages without the club dipping into other areas! What's the point of rich owners if the club is run on a shoestring budget? Signing a marquee player is also a strategy of marketing. If we were penny pinching why on earth would we have two marquees and the salary cap almost full? No point signing a marquee player if nobody hears about it. All I'm saying is that it would be great if we sign the marquee player AND still be able to market on billboards/papers/radio/tv etc. Bakries have the ability to do this but seem disinterested in doing so. And for what it's worth I still doubt that our marquees, as much as I love them, are the type of players the marquee system was introduced for. We just use it for cap manipulation.
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Roar #1
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El Toro wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:El Toro wrote:YerNathanael wrote:El Toro wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:As highlighted by Mulvey and Dobson, things changed when Mckay became available. Our budget was actually a bit lower than what we are using on wages. The club had to dip in to the marketing budget to support the signing of Matty.
So i think on our limited budget, we were always only going to get a state league player. Well then the Bakries ownership is about as useless as tits on a bull It wouldn't matter if we had Roman Abramovich as our owner. We only have little cap space left so therefore we can only afford a player with low wage demands. Not talking about cap space, talking about using the marketing budget to pay the marquee wages outside the cap. Surely the Bakries can sanction Matty's wages without the club dipping into other areas! What's the point of rich owners if the club is run on a shoestring budget? Signing a marquee player is also a strategy of marketing. If we were penny pinching why on earth would we have two marquees and the salary cap almost full? No point signing a marquee player if nobody hears about it. All I'm saying is that it would be great if we sign the marquee player AND still be able to market on billboards/papers/radio/tv etc. Bakries have the ability to do this but seem disinterested in doing so. And for what it's worth I still doubt that our marquees, as much as I love them, are the type of players the marquee system was introduced for. We just use it for cap manipulation. A player who was there on day one, club captain who lead the team back to back, current Socceroo with 40 odd caps and could go to the WC as a contracted Roar player, me thinks that's Marquee material. Also Broich, hailed as the best ever import, I think that's marquee material to. Edited by roar #1: 11/9/2013 12:31:35 PM
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El Toro
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Roar #1 wrote:El Toro wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:El Toro wrote:YerNathanael wrote:El Toro wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:As highlighted by Mulvey and Dobson, things changed when Mckay became available. Our budget was actually a bit lower than what we are using on wages. The club had to dip in to the marketing budget to support the signing of Matty.
So i think on our limited budget, we were always only going to get a state league player. Well then the Bakries ownership is about as useless as tits on a bull It wouldn't matter if we had Roman Abramovich as our owner. We only have little cap space left so therefore we can only afford a player with low wage demands. Not talking about cap space, talking about using the marketing budget to pay the marquee wages outside the cap. Surely the Bakries can sanction Matty's wages without the club dipping into other areas! What's the point of rich owners if the club is run on a shoestring budget? Signing a marquee player is also a strategy of marketing. If we were penny pinching why on earth would we have two marquees and the salary cap almost full? No point signing a marquee player if nobody hears about it. All I'm saying is that it would be great if we sign the marquee player AND still be able to market on billboards/papers/radio/tv etc. Bakries have the ability to do this but seem disinterested in doing so. And for what it's worth I still doubt that our marquees, as much as I love them, are the type of players the marquee system was introduced for. We just use it for cap manipulation. A player who was there on day one, club captain who lead the team back to back, current Socceroo with 40 odd caps and could go to the WC as a contracted Roar player, me thinks that's Marquee material. Also Broich, hailed as the best ever import, I think that's marquee material to. Edited by roar #1: 11/9/2013 12:31:35 PM I can see your point about Matty, only because Aus football has no true marquees left except maybe Cahill. But he has lost some lustre since joining MLS. Thomas- on the field definitely marquee, off the field no chance. The rule was really for Kewell and ADP type signings. FFA may need to revise and update. oh and Matt Smith was Captain for the 2012 GF. Matty did not lead us to back to back championships :)
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Also must be noted. Happy days at hitting the 5k mark finally. Whilst we still need more, good to know its still climbing.
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I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
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Nahaz99 wrote: I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
I'd love to have McGrath but surely he'd want to be a starter. Can he play out wide?
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Nahaz99 wrote: I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
I'd love to have McGrath but surely he'd want to be a starter. Can he play out wide? I think it's getting to a point where he should take anything he could get. We are only weeks away from a league kick off and all teams are well into preseason and finalizing lineups. The worst thing he could do would be to sign for someone the week before season kickoff, he needs time to work with his team. I'd take him instead of Murray. And it would boost our Socceroo count which is nice for the dick measuring between clubs.
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Roar #1 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Nahaz99 wrote: I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
I'd love to have McGrath but surely he'd want to be a starter. Can he play out wide? I think it's getting to a point where he should take anything he could get. We are only weeks away from a league kick off and all teams are well into preseason and finalizing lineups. The worst thing he could do would be to sign for someone the week before season kickoff, he needs time to work with his team. I'd take him instead of Murray. And it would boost our Socceroo count which is nice for the dick measuring between clubs. I think Mulvey wants Murray because he's an experienced Striker at 28. In our system you need to be smarter then your average youngster so imo I would like to have murray just for that reason.
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Mfrendin_Roar wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Nahaz99 wrote: I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
I'd love to have McGrath but surely he'd want to be a starter. Can he play out wide? I think it's getting to a point where he should take anything he could get. We are only weeks away from a league kick off and all teams are well into preseason and finalizing lineups. The worst thing he could do would be to sign for someone the week before season kickoff, he needs time to work with his team. I'd take him instead of Murray. And it would boost our Socceroo count which is nice for the dick measuring between clubs. I think Mulvey wants Murray because he's an experienced Striker at 28. In our system you need to be smarter then your average youngster so imo I would like to have murray just for that reason. I don't think age necessarily brings experience, Ferreira has played 50 odd games in the a league and I'd say he is more experienced then Murray even though he is much younger. Same with the og monster when he made his Socceroos debut at 31? I would say he is less experienced in that situation then the 24,25 year olds already in the squad . I think that saying you are bringing in a 28 yr old visa from the state leagues who has had a journey through the 5th div in England for his "experience" is just ridiculous
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Roar #1 wrote:Mfrendin_Roar wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Nahaz99 wrote: I noted Socceroo striker Brent McGrath has not been offered a deal by Heart for the upcoming season. This should be a player we go for, particularly as we have little depth in that position.
If it's a choice out of McGrath or Murray, I'd take McGrath, but ideally i'd like to have both at the club.
I'd love to have McGrath but surely he'd want to be a starter. Can he play out wide? I think it's getting to a point where he should take anything he could get. We are only weeks away from a league kick off and all teams are well into preseason and finalizing lineups. The worst thing he could do would be to sign for someone the week before season kickoff, he needs time to work with his team. I'd take him instead of Murray. And it would boost our Socceroo count which is nice for the dick measuring between clubs. I think Mulvey wants Murray because he's an experienced Striker at 28. In our system you need to be smarter then your average youngster so imo I would like to have murray just for that reason. I don't think age necessarily brings experience, Ferreira has played 50 odd games in the a league and I'd say he is more experienced then Murray even though he is much younger. Same with the og monster when he made his Socceroos debut at 31? I would say he is less experienced in that situation then the 24,25 year olds already in the squad . I think that saying you are bringing in a 28 yr old visa from the state leagues who has had a journey through the 5th div in England for his "experience" is just ridiculous good point. But I don't think division 5 means anything he IS tearing up the NPL and should be given a chance. He was also trialing with Ange in 2011 but got an injury so he's been on the radar for a while .... Also ur point that we shouldn't waste a visa spot, were not, we have no cap space to use on a decent foreigner.:?
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Roar #1 wrote:I think that saying you are bringing in a 28 yr old visa from the state leagues who has had a journey through the 5th div in England for his "experience" is just ridiculous + 1
In a resort somewhere
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I don't think we have to rush at all, take our time and make the right signing. It's really the final piece of the puzzle. It's only for a backup role as well.
Murray has been with the club for several weeks now so in his case its not going to matter if we sign him tomorrow or one day before the start of the season.
I also agree with Mfrendin in terms of the experience aspect, he's only going to be used off the bench or unless Berisha is injured/suspended. For this role I'd prefer an old head than a youngster.
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Quote:Roar edge Victory after late Yeboah winner
A late goal from Kwame Yeboah proved the match winner as Brisbane Roar defeated Melbourne Victory 1-0 in a pre-season fixture at North Ipswich Reserve.
The Roar enjoyed the lion’s share of possession throughout the afternoon but couldn’t break through until the 83rd minute.
The away side had the first real opportunity of the match but Victory striker Andrew Nabbout sent the ball high after rounding Brisbane goalkeeper Michael Theo.
But the Roar enjoyed most of the attacking chances of the first half with the Victory relying strongly on their counter attacks.
There were screams for a Roar penalty when Besart Berisha came crashing down in the box but the cries were in vein and the score remained at nil all at the break.
Berisha caused a few headaches for the Victory defence but his half chances at goal were handled well by opposition goalkeeper Nathan Coe.
A number of near misses had frustrated Kwame Yeboah all afternoon but in the dying minutes he was able to smartly control a chipped ball, before curling the ball past the out stretched Victory keeper to break the deadlock.
The striker’s relief at finally scoring was evident as he showed off his acrobatic skills in celebration.
The win continues the Roar’s fine preseason form, after recent victories over Central Coast Mariners and Melbourne Heart.
Over 2,500 fans were in attendance at North Ipswich Reserve - an impressive number considering the match coincided with a number of major sporting finals throughout the city http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/brisbaneroar/news-display/Roar-edge-Victory-after-late-Yeboah-winner/74864
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http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/brisbaneroar/news-display/Ken-Stead-appointed-Brisbane-Roar-Football-Director/75061Quote:Brisbane Roar has made a major investment in the future of football development in Queensland with the appointment of Ken Stead to the position of Football Director.
Stead played a key role in the Roar’s successful 2010/11 and 2011/12 seasons that saw the club break new ground as the first back-to-back Hyundai A-League Champions and will now overlook the club’s expanding football department.
In recent months, Brisbane Roar’s football department has grown to integrate the Brisbane Roar W-League team and has plans to expand its responsibility for the development of young Queensland footballers.
Stead will be the driving force behind building the club towards long-term football sustainability and success by utilising his methodical and scientific-based management style.
“I’m honoured and privileged to be the Football Director,” said Stead, who has also worked professionally as a conditioning coach and academy development consultant in the United Kingdom and the Middle East.
“As the only Hyundai A-League and Westfield W-League club in the state, we take the responsibility of inspiring young Queenslanders to play, enjoy and succeed in football very seriously.
“My role will be to ensure this continues to happen while developing both male and female footballing talent and protecting and progressing Brisbane Roar’s characteristic style of play and philosophy.”
Managing Director Sean Dobson explained the appointment was a result of an ongoing strategic review of the football department.
“With Ken’s expertise, experience and contacts, we can ensure that the men’s, women’s and youth programs have strong and equal support,” Dobson said.
“Ken shares our football philosophy with Head Coaches Mike Mulvey and Belinda Wilson which will keep Brisbane Roar’s style progressive and ahead of the pack, as shown in our pre-season results so far.”
Stead’s appointment is effective immediately. Sounds like Stead may be looking after the Academy?
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So seeing as McKay was selected for the Socceroos, he'll miss our round 1 and 2 clashes. How does everyone think we'll replace him? Probably our best two options at the moment: Bes Brown Broich Franjic Miller Brattan
Broich Bes Yeboah Miller Franjic Brattan
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Roar #1
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:So seeing as McKay was selected for the Socceroos, he'll miss our round 1 and 2 clashes. How does everyone think we'll replace him? Probably our best two options at the moment: Bes Brown Broich Franjic Miller Brattan
Broich Bes Yeboah Miller Franjic Brattan Id like to see the first set up. Brown has been on fire and scoring in the pre season so I think he deserves a shot, even if its just for the first 2 weeks.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:So seeing as McKay was selected for the Socceroos, he'll miss our round 1 and 2 clashes. How does everyone think we'll replace him? Probably our best two options at the moment: Bes Brown Broich Franjic Miller Brattan
Broich Bes Yeboah Miller Franjic Brattan I have a feeling it may be the second one. I'd like to be able to keep Broich out wide and I think that's more likely to happen.
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Interesting to note that from our 20 women squad for the W-league, 19 of those players are Queenslanders.
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BRFC_92 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:So seeing as McKay was selected for the Socceroos, he'll miss our round 1 and 2 clashes. How does everyone think we'll replace him? Probably our best two options at the moment: Bes Brown Broich Franjic Miller Brattan
Broich Bes Yeboah Miller Franjic Brattan I have a feeling it may be the second one. I'd like to be able to keep Broich out wide and I think that's more likely to happen. Is Petratos fit ?
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We could go with: Bes Broich Miller Yeboah Brattan
I think that would work, but the only issue I have is the flexibility in the middle bit. Mulvey spoke about how there would be this freedom for the 3, Broich, Miller and Mckay to roam around and switch spots with Brattan most likely being the holding. So im thinking when Matty is back we will see. So im going off that thinking and seeing how we go. Edited by zimbos_05: 25/9/2013 01:18:30 PM
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zimbos_05 wrote:We could go with: Bes Broich Miller Yeboah Brattan
I think that would work, but the only issue I have is the flexibility in the middle bit. Mulvey spoke about how there would be this freedom for the 3, Broich, Miller and Mckay to roam around and switch spots with Brattan most likely being the holding. So im thinking when Matty is back we will see. So im going off that thinking and seeing how we go. Edited by zimbos_05: 25/9/2013 01:18:30 PM Who is next to Brattan?
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imo it will be franjic playing cm that's what he's been doing in preseason.
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I'd like to see our team line-up as: Theo
North Donachie Smith Stef
Brattan
Franjic Miller
Henrique Berisha Broich
Subs: Yeboah, Brown, Hingert, Ferreira
The question then is, who do we drop when McKay is back? Does Franjic drop back to being a defender? We seem to have allot of depth, so Mulvey has to work out what to do with it.
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Nahaz99 wrote: I'd like to see our team line-up as: Theo
North Donachie Smith Stef
Brattan
Franjic Miller
Henrique Berisha Broich
Subs: Yeboah, Brown, Hingert, Ferreira
The question then is, who do we drop when McKay is back? Does Franjic drop back to being a defender? We seem to have allot of depth, so Mulvey has to work out what to do with it.
That'll be far from the starting line up. It'll be more like: Theo Hingert North Smith Stefanutto Brattan Miller McKay Franjic Berisha Broich Bench: Acton, Ferreira, Petratos/Yeboah, Donachie, Brown. First game and maybe second game I think you'll see Franjic in the middle with Yeboah or Petratos out wide.
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Henrique is out injured he won't be back until at least round 3. If Petratos doesn't play in our last pre-season match I doubt he'll be starting in round 1 as well.
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I'd like to see:
Theo North Donachie Smith Steff Brattan McKay Franjic Miller Broich Berisha
Very strong starting XI with Yeboah, Hingert, Brown, Petratos, Ferreira and Henrique providing backup - imagine if we had Danning and Lambda fit. Have a lot more depth than I thought we would. If we don't make the six, Mulvey is hopeless.
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theinsider wrote:I'd like to see:
Theo North Donachie Smith Steff Brattan McKay Franjic Miller Broich Berisha
Very strong starting XI with Yeboah, Hingert, Brown, Petratos, Ferreira and Henrique providing backup - imagine if we had Danning and Lambda fit. Have a lot more depth than I thought we would. If we don't make the six, Mulvey is hopeless. We were talking about potential options for McKay as he'll be away with the Roos for the first few rounds of the Season.
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Our squad depth is way better this season ( except for a 2nd specialist striker) even with the few injuries we are looking strong
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