Cheers mate, respect.

No probs.

Another one from Yowie :lol: =d>

So true these are the type of games that anyone watching for the first time will never forget and hopefully encourage them to come to games.

Any time we can convert the casual fan is always good, I never understand why people like to give it to bandwagoners. All I see is the potential for our crowd base to increase, we all have to start somewhere.

Reports coming out on twitter John Aloisi has offerred Hervas an upgraded two
Year contract.

What the fuck. What does he see in him. Yes clut has his flaws in defense but he is young and shown a fair bit in attack.

We need a lb.

For anyone that didn't already hate Nichols.



No class at all and to think I used to stick up for him.

On the game, I wouldn't wish this on any other fan. To go up 3 nill and to concede some really bad goals was just depressing. Reminded of that game against Perth ](*,) Would have rather lose 4 nill than get my emotions up. At least they came back and got level with WSW as I really didn't think we had anything left.

Think I have had enough football for one day, With Everton losing in shit fashion this morning as well it really has drained the life out of me.

Got a link vandyborg1?

Wow. And i always held him in a high regard. Thought he was better than that.

Please tell me this is a joke.A visa player that can't make the first team ,but once all year?
Where is he going to play.
Oar,McKay,Broich already fighting for left spots.We need a new Broich,a right sided midfielder,a defensive midfielder,a striker,etc..etc..
Petrat may have improved this season,but as a midfielder he still is missing during the tough pressing of opposition teams.I can't recall him running to recieve the ball in midfield to help get the team out of trouble .McKay and Corona were under the pump.But where was the rat?
I am afraid Aloisi is up against his glass ceiling.He needs help.
I didn't see anything in the way of tactical changes after the the Roar was pumped a few times in away games.,weeks ago.Just more cautious defence and more long balls.
A third finish was still a good result.But what is Aloisi going to do to improve the team?



Edited by crimsoncrusoe: 24/4/2016 09:34:42 PM

Just type in Hervas on twitter and do a search.
The outrage is incredible.
The last game he played was 24 march for 16 mins.
2 mins before that on 12 march
And 3 mins on 6 march.
The most important game of the season and he was the first sub.
What justification does Aloisi have for this decision.

I was impressed with Oar tonight.
Shows what he might be capable of next year with some match fitness under is belt.

But i still want clut at glory.

It's probably unfair to payout on a player who has played out of position all season.I have seen far worse players playing in other teams.Plus no player can get in form unless they play regularly.
Having said that,Aloisi is responsible for hiring the wrong players and playing players out of position.
Corona has not been playing his best position all season.He is not a defensive midfielder..Hervas on the right.Oar on the right.
The bottom line is Hervas is not needed.

As others have said, the real test for John Aloisi will be in this off-season and what he does with his squad and how he wants to play next season. Looking back, particularly over the last few weeks, I think Brisbane have over-achieved this season when you look at their players and how they played. Their playing style has deteriorated markedly over the past couple of months - it is little more now than hoof it upfield for MacLaren and sometimes Borello to chase, while defensively (Hingert apart) it is always a lottery. What happened to the possession-based style that we were still pretty much using up to a few months ago?

We need a new keeper, while Young is a reasonable shot-stopper he still gives away too many goals through his other deficiencies (he should have done much better for at least three of yesterday's goals), while his kicking, especially from (not so) long goalkicks invariably puts us under immediate pressure as they struggle to get over halfway and apart from Broich we have no one up front who can win the ball in the air.

We need a couple of new defenders, hopefully DeVere will come back well next season. Hingert was a revelation this season, but Donachie was generally poor (he needs to look at Topor-Stanley to learn what a clearing header under pressure is meant to be), North is too old and is more interested in arguments with opposing strikers and giving away silly fouls, and while Brown has improved towards the end of the season he is still short of being a reliable player.

Corona is not a defensive midfielder, as others have said, and he has not been able to use his talents as well as he might have done. McKay is still magnificent in patches, but the long ball style does not suit him and he struggled to influence games in the last few weeks as a result. And Hervas?? - what does Aloisi see in him, and why is he played on the right when his right foot is clearly only good for standing on, and even on his left his passing reliability is poor. What happened to Lustica, he is a much better option than Hervas for Roar's possession game.

Petratos, while much improved in some games towards the end of the season, still drifts in and out of games and takes far too many touches on too many occasions. I actually think that Lustica is possibly a better option in that attacking midfielder role. Broich, like McKay, is completely under-utilised in a long ball game, but I think still has another season in him if the right style is employed.

MacLaren, Borrello and Oar can be very good if used effectively, Henrique is the best super-sub in the league. But in my view the jury is still out on Aloisi as a coach. I suspect he may be a good motivator, but I am less sure of his technical abilities. I hope he can succeed, but part of me thinks that Brisbane's relative success this season might have been due to things other than Aloisi's coaching.

Brisbane has to look at a moving the ball faster and not move to far away from keeping possession at all cost. But what needs to happen if we are being pressed is to draw the opposition in and have our wingers wide then do the long ball it should be in space. Our wingers are far to narrow.

I disagree with your views of young I don't see the need to replace him. I think another season he will deal with the pressure better. Last night goals where all defense fault nothing to do with him. Watch borello in the wall for the first goal. There was only the time he ran out and then back tracked.

Fully agree with your views on Brisbane keeping possession, and also using wide wingers for a long ball when being pressed.

I agree that the defence was also at fault for the goals yesterday, and I agree on Borello's failure in the wall, but my rationale for partly blaming Young is:

Goal 1 - while the wall was abysmal, Young has to take some responsibility in how it was set up. You could tell that Young had no confidence in it which he why he stepped to the left (behind the wall) immediately before the shot, and the shot went to the side of the goal that he should have been covering.

Goal 2 - no doubt Young should have come outside his area and cleared that, in fact his starting point when the through ball was played was well outside the area. Donachie's subsequent defending on Santalab was poor though, I thought he should have done much better.

Goal 4 - an average punch from the free kick (although Broich's half-hearted challenge didn't help), watching it live I thought he was going to catch it which I think he probably should have done. Following that Young couldn't have done much about Castellan's shot.

Goal 5 - I thought Young should have caught Vidosic's initial shot, which was well within his dive's reach, was at a good height and wasn't hit so hard. Failing that his parry should have been to push it well wide or even out for a corner. Instead it was a relatively weak parry allowing the WSW player to immediately get the ball well within the penalty area under little pressure, to cross it for Vidosic.

And I fully stand behind what I said about his kicking, it is continually putting Brisbane back under pressure. Last night a couple of his early goalkicks weren't too bad as he followed through when he kicked the ball instead of hitting the ball with a part stabbing motion which is what he usually does, but later in the game the poor goalkicks were back. Having said that, if Brisbane's defenders and midfield were better at keeping possession in their own half (as we used to be), I think Young would have more confidence that a short goalkick could be used much more often.

Good to have the discussion though.

All I saw in Oar was an international player with years of experience in decent European leagues come on fresh and completely fail to have an influence. Given others had played for 2 hours he should have been dominating by the end or at least taking the pressure off others. Would far rather we'd signed a LB.

There wasnt one available at the time and he was.
Should have looked for a swap deal of Clut for Galloway tbh. Both off-contract and Vucks couldve used DC in the ACL.

Oar just looked like he was in his own world.Some really dumb moves inside with a poor cross/shot.He seemed to have no idea how to link with other players.
Having someone like him who can cross the ball and no one but a short arse to head it was pointless.
Borrello had a poor year.So much was expected .He hasn't improved at all.
Petrat improved.But is still playing in a new position,which could be played better by a proper midfielder.His workrate is too inconsistent.
Broich too old to outpace anyone.
Donachie at times looks like a cart horse.That Santalab goal,he could have forced Santalab to stay near the goal line where Young had the near post covered .
Brown hung in there but still not a good defender.
Hingert does good things. But struggles against forwards one on one.
North still probably the best defender but makes mistakes a lot more.
I wonder if a good defensive midfielder would help improve the defenders jitters .
Lack of height is a big issue for Roar.All those set plays in defence are a nightmare and continually result in goals.

RE: keeper66

I guess the only issue i have with your points are it is a mix of both goal keeper and defensive unit, if you want to replace him who would you do it with?

If we could biri that would be fantastic, but i wouldn't really go for any current GK in the A league, eugene i can see is getting a little slower, vuka had a dreadful season. We have some younger keepers warming the pine in europe but would they be any better? going by stats this season young was in the top 3 gk in the league with biri and eugene.

Unless aloisi comes and says very quickly we are going to have a transition year the expectation for next season is basically winning the comp. I am certain we can't do that with a young inexperience keeper.

Oar was absolutely shot. He was huffing and puffing . That is natural when you first come on in a game like that but he was like that the whole time he was on. A few times when tracking back he was struggling big time.He is not fit.
I am not a huge fan of his but I expected more. He has had plenty of training and game time now . Hopefully next season he gives me some reasons to change my view of his abilities.
I do think he should be played on the left though . He would just have to learn to cross low and hard as Mc Laren is no Tim Cahill.

Lolitsbigmic

I agree with what you say about other A League keepers, Birra or Galekovic are the only ones I would choose, but I suspect Birra is more likely to go overseas than go to another A League club and I can't see Galekovic coming to Brisbane.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh on Young, he did do some good things this season, but his poor distribution and lack of ability with his feet often puts the team under a lot of pressure.

I definitely agree with his distribution, but i feel another off season he will be better. Young 2016 is a lot different from young 2015. He is a different player. I feel its better to spend time and resources in sorting out the defense and getting the midfield sorted out because i feel young will be even better on the ball next season.

Does anyone if we are still going after zullo? Although i do have mix feeling about him because of his defense, but he seems to be better than brown.

Also are we getting rid of polenz and solozano? we could really do with those visa spots.

and predictably he is gone, can't blame the guy. Well done JA. :roll:

How Clut wasn't used as a sub more often I will never know.
I get the feeling Aloisi hired Hervas and tried to use him to justify his decision.Most times Hervas replaced Petrat on the right and Clut plays on the right .
This is a case of our poor defenders not being able to allow Clut to play with his superior attacking,but inferior defending abilities.

There was a rumour going around on Twitter that Hervas is about to sign a new two year deal #-o

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Brisbane Heart here we come.
Oar can be the new Mifsud.
Then the team can learn to lose most away games .:-k :-k :-k

Hervas is a left footed DM, Clut is a right footed attacking midfielder/10. The two are not competing for a squad spot. I've heard the same rumours on Hervas, it looks like he is staying but I wouldn't be worried about that, he's a decent ball winner just don't friggin play him on the right Aloisi !!

I do agree he is playing on the wrong side. Until McKay is injured or away with the NT we won't get to see him properly in the LCM position.

Clubs are beginning to announce who they're releasing, so I'm wondering when ours will come?

Hervas is not a defensive midfielder.He has not played that position and has no particular skills for that position other than passing to opponents.
If we was a DM ,he would be playing as one,because it's what we lack.
How is it possible a visa player who can only make the first team once in a whole season be given a new contract?
Aloisi will lose all credibility if he is resigned.