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Seven deadly Gillard sins

Robert Gottliebsen30 Apr, 8:22 AM96
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If the only mistake the Gillard government had made was creating a deficit out of yet another set of bad Treasury numbers then the likely next prime minister, Tony Abbott, and his looming treasurer Joe Hockey would face a straightforward task.

But the current government’s mistakes go much deeper and will require an entirely different approach. This morning I will list my seven deadly Gillard economic sins and invite readers to comment and add to them via conversation. Tomorrow I will list the actions Tony Abbott must consider with the same invitation to readers.

– Sin number one is rarely mentioned in mainstream commentary: A dedicated and vicious campaign against small business, which is the main private employment creating sector of the economy. This was done via the Australian tax office which attacked small operators and refused to give many ABN numbers. [size=7]Thousands of complex but useless regulations were introduced at the same time as the Gillard government promoted union dominated industrial relations laws that were designed for large business and made staff flexibility in small business much tougher. Independent contracting was actively discouraged [/size](See: The cost of Labor’s contractor carnage, April 24; Paralysed in a tax office trap, April 24; and Call off the small business attack dogs, April 19).

– Sin number two: Actively fan the greatest government employment binge in Australia’s history. As the above link pointed out, the Institute of Public Affairs estimates that since the global financial crisis public sector industries have lifted their employment by 406,000. In fairness, not all the 406,000 people are employed by Canberra by increasing regulation, red tape, state government requirements and duplication, but the Gillard government was the main driver.

– Sin number three: Allowed the export of gas from Queensland, which under present extraction rules we did not have. Some of the export gas will now come from gas that was earmarked for Sydney and will help send NSW and later Victorian and Queensland domestic gas prices sky-high. The higher gas prices will be further boosted by actions of the NSW government. It’s a total mess (Leaky gas progress could lead to a NSW exodus, April 16).

Sin number four: Encourage the return of cartel-style agreements between big builders and building unions in the commercial building sector sending the cost of building the new mines and government projects up substantially (Lend Lease and Leighton need a new toolkit, April 8).

– Sin number five: Pay no need heed to productivity in health. It’s all about handing out money. Rising heath expenditure is a key underlining reason for the deficits.

Sin number six: Decide to be completely remote from business. Treasury took the same view. As a result Canberra had no idea what was happening in the business arena (particularly in mining) and most of the treasury business forecasts were wrong. Worse still, they spent the money that they incorrectly anticipated receiving. The strategy was modelled on the Keystone Kops.

– Sin number seven: Carbon was another Keystone Kops style fiasco. The Gillard government saddled Australia with an uncompetitive carbon price at the same time as a high dollar and rising electricity prices. They used much of the carbon money for social welfare and then later effectively slashed future carbon revenue, but did not cut back the spending. The carbon mess had little effect on emissions.

One of the reasons why so many big mistakes were made was that Julia Gillard turned out to be another Kevin Rudd. Rudd could not run a cabinet and Gillard’s supporters thought this would be her greatest asset. Instead she followed the Rudd decision making process on too many occasions.



Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/30/politics/seven-deadly-gillard-sins#ixzz2TOpvkhER

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Budget 2013: Tony Abbott says not everyone will be better off under his plan


Lol.

Anyone who believes this fuckwit is going to improve their lives is an idiot.


same as anyone who beleives that Gillard the fuckwitt has......is a fuckwit


How is your life worse off under Gillard, please.


I think the political mood and confidence in our leaders pretty low right now. Look at Labor trying to institute all these fantastic policies like Gonski and NDIS and yet they are still hated. They've basically stolen billions from the Australian tax payer to fund unaffordable progrmas and create a false legacy based on lies and fiscal incompetence.

Labor is so incredibly hopeless managing the economy, they are basically the political equivalent of Osieck, everything they touch turns to shit but they are convinced they're doing a good job.

The next Liberal government will be another 3 term one cleaning up this mess.


Your perception is at odds with economic reality, as confirmed by the IMF, leading world economists & Nobel prize winners... I as well as former Prime Minister John Howard.

Please explain.



John Howard also said that this last budget is "SABOTAGE" ;) ;)
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Joffa wrote:
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I think the political mood and confidence in our leaders pretty low right now. Look at Labor trying to institute all these fantastic policies like Gonski and NDIS and yet they are still hated. They've basically stolen billions from the Australian tax payer to fund unaffordable progrmas and create a false legacy based on lies and fiscal incompetence.

Labor is so incredibly hopeless managing the economy, they are basically the political equivalent of Osieck, everything they touch turns to shit but they are convinced they're doing a good job.

The next Liberal government will be another 3 term one cleaning up this mess.


Can you provide any evidence to support your claims? There is plenty of evidence out there confirming exactly the opposite in regards to the economic credibility of the Gillard Government....it might also be worth remembering it is a minority Government, so if as you alledge they're so bad....doesn't some of the blame lay at Abbotts feet by definition?



the only evidence you have that the Gillard government is a good economic manager is

"Australia is in better shape than most other economies".....while the truth of the matter is that our economy should be way ahead of where it is....the best terms of trade in yonks, a mining boom and a host of other great conditions and the best we can do is an $18 billion dollar deficit for this year and next year and debt at record highs.............and employment is low because we have record high public sector jobs and Gillard is at odds to as why the books don't balance????????

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I also want to see why the general John Doe is so worried about a deficit?

One that is one of the lowest of all OECD countries, one that hasn't changed our AAA credit rating etc.

Labour have always traditionally spent money whereas Liberals have saved money.

History always repeats itself, so why are people that concerned about it?

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
I also want to see why the general John Doe is so worried about a deficit?

One that is one of the lowest of all OECD countries, one that hasn't changed our AAA credit rating etc.

Labour have always traditionally spent money whereas Liberals have saved money.

History always repeats itself, so why are people that concerned about it?

-PB


fair point and i would agree....

personally i don't fear a deficit as such, but more the size of it given that the NBN is not included in the balance sheet and the principle that up until January the government were adamant that they would produce a surplus.......albeit a slender one....

so what confidence can you take out of them continuing to promise anything when they have failed to deliver on so many fronts?????

the government keep telling us that they have had a huge drop in revenue, but when i check the figures available they have actually remained stable with a modest increase of some 5% which is around 3% Less than expected i will admit..... but it's more so the case that they have chosen to spend "predicted tax revenue" from the carbon tax and the mining tax and found once again that there forecasts were wrong.

when i check my COGS & overheads at work, relative to the past 4 years there has been a 3-5% increase on average across the business every year, from electricity,ctp insurance, workers comp,Public liability, wages have leaped a massive 11% and in a aggressively competitive construction sector its little wonder so many firms are in deep shit.......and liquidations are prevalent...i can tell you that the current enviroment is way worse than it was during the recession in 1992 and the lull after the olympics.....







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Robert Gottliebsen30 Apr
– Sin number seven: Carbon was another Keystone Kops style fiasco. The Gillard government saddled Australia with an uncompetitive carbon price at the same time as a high dollar and rising electricity prices. They used much of the carbon money for social welfare and then later effectively slashed future carbon revenue, but did not cut back the spending. The carbon mess had little effect on emissions.

Hey Rob, leave the science of global warming to the more intelligent, not to those who obtain piss easy degrees in business & finance
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ozboy wrote:
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Robert Gottliebsen30 Apr
– Sin number seven: Carbon was another Keystone Kops style fiasco. The Gillard government saddled Australia with an uncompetitive carbon price at the same time as a high dollar and rising electricity prices. They used much of the carbon money for social welfare and then later effectively slashed future carbon revenue, but did not cut back the spending. The carbon mess had little effect on emissions.

Hey Rob, leave the science of global warming to the more intelligent, not to those who obtain piss easy degrees in business & finance


can't see where he states global warming isn't real....


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Labor will not increase GST: Shorten

May 18, 2013 - 12:28PM

Bill Shorten has vowed that Labor will keep its hands off the goods and service tax, following revelations that Tony Abbott could include the GST in a review of the tax system if the Coalition is elected.

The issue is looming as a major battleground in the lead up to September’s election.

Mr Shorten, the Minister for Financial Services and Superannuation, said on Saturday that Labor will not increase the GST.

He said Labor favoured a mining tax rather than slugging ‘‘mums and dads’’ with a GST increase.

‘‘If Tony Abbott was elected he would give money back to the world’s richest mining companies, but he is saying to the mums and dads doing their shopping on a Saturday, ‘I want you to pay more for tax’. These are crazy priorities.

‘‘The Liberals are saying vote for us, give us a blank cheque, we’ll set up a number of committees and then we will work out different ways for mum and dad to pay more money ...

‘‘I think a mining tax makes more sense than a GST (increase) and I think putting a price on carbon pollution makes more sense than GST.

‘‘Tony Abbott, you do not need to increase the GST, just make sure mining companies pay their fair share. It’s fairly simple.’’

Mr Abbott has said that any changes to the taxation system, including the GST, would be taken to voters before being implemented.

Mr Shorten also attacked the Liberal proposal to delay superannuation increases.

‘‘Superannuation should be a political no go zone, it should be a safe haven and not subject to new taxes.’’

He said that under the Liberal proposal 8.5 million Australians would have less money in their super when they retire.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-will-not-increase-gst-shorten-20130518-2jszk.html#ixzz2TcEPdgKS
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Seeing sense as end nears

May 2013

The federal budget has prompted a good measure of old-fashioned responsibility on both sides of the political fence.

Labor's budget this week is like the pyramid of an Egyptian pharaoh, says one of the party's federal MPs: "Gillard is building the monuments for her legacy, and she's sacrificing us slaves in the process."

The Prime Minister has certainly contemplated her political mortality with an election in just 120 days. It has concentrated her mind on her legacy, but also on getting her financial affairs in order.

Labor has now accepted that it is very likely that it will lose.

After years of plans and strategies, tricks and stunts, bribes and baffles, the sort of political games that Paul Keating might have called "tricky-poo politics," the Gillard government's federal budget delivered a good measure of old-fashioned responsibility.

"We had to," said one of her inner circle in total frankness. "We had nothing else to run with."

Yes, the deficit is budgeted to blow out by nearly $21 billion this year, producing a deficit of $19 billion this financial year and $18 billion next. But it could have been much, much worse.

Unlike a standard election-year budget, this one resists the politician's urge to buy his or her way back into office with cash splashes, handouts, and bonuses. There is no "fistful of dollars."

Indeed, it actually starts to withdraw some of the handouts it had pledged earlier. Labor's latest budget cancelled a round of tax cuts, called off a promised increase in family payments, and ended the baby bonus.

The MP who likens his leader to Cleopatra is unhappy at this abandonment of standard political behaviour. He wanted Gillard and her Treasurer, Wayne Swan, to persist with handouts, in the belief that this might help him hold his seat on the day of reckoning.

But the crass old handoutism certainly didn't work for John Howard in 2007, it certainly hadn't worked for Gillard to now, and it's hard to comprehend how some fiscal irresponsibility could improve the government's fortunes with an electorate that seems so implacably set against it.

Until this budget, Labor pursued the narcissism of activism. "Surely the people will come to love us if only we find the right way into their affections, so we must keep trying."

That's how we got the last years of Labor's constant campaigning with unaffordable spending, class warfare, xenophobia over 457 visas, misogyny and everything else.

But Labor has now accepted that it is very likely that it will lose. The clearest evidence of the onset of this realism is that the party's national executive has drawn up Labor's internal budget on the basis that it will win 32 per cent of the primary vote at the election. That equates with about 46 per cent of the two-party vote. In other words, a wipeout.

If so, it means that Gillard will go down in history as a prime minister who held power for over three years but never won an election, and Swan will go down as a treasurer who delivered six budgets but never delivered a surplus.

But now, according to Gillard's unimpressed MP, we see the narcissism of legacy-building. What are her modern-day pyramids and sphinxes? One is the national disability insurance scheme that Gillard has labelled DisabilityCare.

The other is the school funding formula that used to be known as Gonski until Gillard's plan for financing it - by cutting university funds - was disowned by none other than Gonski himself. And it's true that the budget did make room for the financing of both.

It appears that only one of them will survive a change of government. Tony Abbott supports DisabilityCare and so do the states. But Abbott has doomed the schools funding plan formerly known as Gonski. Only one state, NSW, has signed up for it, and Abbott says this means it cannot be a national scheme and he will not persist with it.

Yet the moment of mortal reckoning has also brought Gillard and Swan to make an effort to put their finances in order, and this creates the possibility for Labor of a dignified departure. Labor's last-minute conversion to budget responsibility is good news for the national interest.

But Abbott also declared a "budget emergency," and Joe Hockey has described it as a "major crisis." How could that be good news?

Their hyperbole is helpful if it gives the Liberals the political elbow-room to enact responsible budgeting of their own. But in the short run at least, it's nonsense. Labor talked a lot of nonsense this week too, but consider the Liberals' overheated propaganda first.

Abbott does have a gift for lampooning Labor. This is from his budget reply: "The government originally said that the deficit was 'temporary.' With seven in a row, the Second World War was more temporary than this government's deficits."

And this one: "The Treasurer now says that there will be a surplus in four years' time. That's four years after the Treasurer and the Prime Minister said that it had already actually been delivered and spent tens of thousands of your dollars boasting about it in letters to their constituents. If a public company made these sorts of claims its directors would most likely face serious charges rather than asking to be re-elected."

But the Liberals' alarmism is thoroughly overdone. Compare Abbott's "budget emergency" with the assessment by the US-based credit rating, Moodys.

After seeing the budget, Moodys reaffirmed the Australian government's Aaa credit rating, the highest possible, and so did the other two major international ratings agencies. Moody's senior vice-president for sovereign risk, Steven Hess, sent out a client briefing note that said although the budget deterioration was a "credit negative development," "the projected deficits are relatively small as a percentage of GDP.

"As a result, the ratio of government debt to GDP will rise only marginally before beginning to decline, and Australia will remain among the few Aaa-rated sovereign debt issuers with a low level of debt. Australia's main vulnerability remains its dependence on external capital markets for finance, but this is not a major risk to the government's financial position unless global capital markets turn against Australian borrowers."

Even after adding the debts of all three tiers of government in Australia, Moodys couldn't really see how you could turn this into an emergency: "Including state and local government debt, consolidated government debt is approximately 25 per cent of GDP, still a low figure compared with other Aaa-rated countries.

"The median level for the 14 sovereigns that we rate Aaa is 50 per cent, and Australia has the lowest debt level of any Aaa-rated sovereign with the exception of Luxembourg."

Labor has been guilty of its own self-serving nonsense. Wayne Swan told us ad nauseam that he was unable to deliver the "guaranteed" surplus because of "massive write-downs" of revenues.

This is Treasury talk for "massively wrongheaded forecasts." The revenue was not "written down." It was never coming. It never existed and was never in prospect. The anticipated tax revenues were only ever expected under a fictitious scenario that the Treasury called a "forecast." Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard have both tried to explain the cause as an historically unusual development which Gillard told audiences this week was "incredibly technical".

No it's not, Prime Minister. It's incredibly simple. She and Swan love to go on about a divergence between two different ways of measuring economic growth - real gross domestic product growth and nominal GDP growth - as the core explanation. Far too complex for mere taxpayers, voters and citizens to understand.

But the simple reality is that there is only one measure that counts, and there has only ever been one. We earn our wages and buy our groceries and pay our electricity bills with the money that passes through our hands. This may be the thing the economists tell us is part of the "nominal" economy, but it's the one we all live in. It's the one that taxes are extracted from. We understand this, Prime Minister. We live in that world. We are, in fact, the ones who pay those taxes. The Treasury merely messed up its forecast.

It pitched a figure - it said growth in this "nominal" economy would be 5.1 per cent. And it turns out to be 3.25 per cent. For each missed percentage point, the Tax Office collects about $5 billion less, according to Stephen Anthony of the consultancy Macroeconomics. The anticipated money was a figment of the Treasury economists' imagination, but in Wayne Swan's mouth this turns into a "write-down."

So what has the Treasury done in this budget? It's pitched 5 per cent again. And 5 per cent or more in the three following years as well. Sigh. As the budget papers themselves explained in statement four, the good ol' days of Howard-era roaring revenues are not coming back. They're history.

So the Treasury got its guess wrong, and Swan then compounded the error by constructing his "iron-clad" surplus commitment on the basis of it. Now the Treasury is doing it again, and Swan is doing it again. He now promises a surplus in four years.

But this time, Swan probably won't be around to have to deal with the consequences. It's likely to be Joe Hockey's problem.

And just as political mortality sobered the Gillard government into some budget responsibility this week, the looming reality of the prime ministership has led Abbott to take a step towards some budget responsibility of his own on Thursday. Abbott's budget reply kept open the option of retaining any and all of Labor's spending cuts: "We reserve the right to implement all of Labor's cuts, if needed."

Including ones he called "objectionable," like dumping the Howard brainchild, the baby bonus. The Coalition shadow cabinet had baulked at this idea only months ago. Why the change?

Joe Hockey showed his shadow cabinet colleagues a slide on Monday night, the night before the budget. It listed spending cuts or tax increases that the Gillard government had announced, but not yet legislated. In other words, an Abbott government would very likely have to legislate them. They tallied to $28 billion.

Hockey warned his colleagues that the government would be announcing more the next night. "If we don't accept Labor's spending cuts, we will have to find spending cuts ourselves, plus find our own" to cut the deficit below the level they would inherit from Labor.

This so daunted the shadow cabinet that it gave in-principle support to the idea of accepting all the Labor spending cuts. It was the transforming power of impending ownership of the problem.

And in the longer run, Australia's public finances will be a problem. As the population ages, we face decades of severe strain and a future akin to Europe's present. It was a happy week for Australia because both sides of politics contemplated having to take responsibility for their decisions.

You have to start somewhere.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/seeing-sense-as-end-nears-20130517-2jrwb.html#ixzz2TcUf25Tb
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May 2013

The federal budget has prompted a good measure of old-fashioned responsibility on both sides of the political fence.

Labor's budget this week is like the pyramid of an Egyptian pharaoh, says one of the party's federal MPs: "Gillard is building the monuments for her legacy, and she's sacrificing us slaves in the process."

The Prime Minister has certainly contemplated her political mortality with an election in just 120 days. It has concentrated her mind on her legacy, but also on getting her financial affairs in order.

Labor has now accepted that it is very likely that it will lose.

After years of plans and strategies, tricks and stunts, bribes and baffles, the sort of political games that Paul Keating might have called "tricky-poo politics," the Gillard government's federal budget delivered a good measure of old-fashioned responsibility.

"We had to," said one of her inner circle in total frankness. "We had nothing else to run with."

Yes, the deficit is budgeted to blow out by nearly $21 billion this year, producing a deficit of $19 billion this financial year and $18 billion next. But it could have been much, much worse.

Unlike a standard election-year budget, this one resists the politician's urge to buy his or her way back into office with cash splashes, handouts, and bonuses. There is no "fistful of dollars."

Indeed, it actually starts to withdraw some of the handouts it had pledged earlier. Labor's latest budget cancelled a round of tax cuts, called off a promised increase in family payments, and ended the baby bonus.

The MP who likens his leader to Cleopatra is unhappy at this abandonment of standard political behaviour. He wanted Gillard and her Treasurer, Wayne Swan, to persist with handouts, in the belief that this might help him hold his seat on the day of reckoning.

But the crass old handoutism certainly didn't work for John Howard in 2007, it certainly hadn't worked for Gillard to now, and it's hard to comprehend how some fiscal irresponsibility could improve the government's fortunes with an electorate that seems so implacably set against it.

Until this budget, Labor pursued the narcissism of activism. "Surely the people will come to love us if only we find the right way into their affections, so we must keep trying."

That's how we got the last years of Labor's constant campaigning with unaffordable spending, class warfare, xenophobia over 457 visas, misogyny and everything else.

But Labor has now accepted that it is very likely that it will lose. The clearest evidence of the onset of this realism is that the party's national executive has drawn up Labor's internal budget on the basis that it will win 32 per cent of the primary vote at the election. That equates with about 46 per cent of the two-party vote. In other words, a wipeout.

If so, it means that Gillard will go down in history as a prime minister who held power for over three years but never won an election, and Swan will go down as a treasurer who delivered six budgets but never delivered a surplus.

But now, according to Gillard's unimpressed MP, we see the narcissism of legacy-building. What are her modern-day pyramids and sphinxes? One is the national disability insurance scheme that Gillard has labelled DisabilityCare.

The other is the school funding formula that used to be known as Gonski until Gillard's plan for financing it - by cutting university funds - was disowned by none other than Gonski himself. And it's true that the budget did make room for the financing of both.

It appears that only one of them will survive a change of government. Tony Abbott supports DisabilityCare and so do the states. But Abbott has doomed the schools funding plan formerly known as Gonski. Only one state, NSW, has signed up for it, and Abbott says this means it cannot be a national scheme and he will not persist with it.

Yet the moment of mortal reckoning has also brought Gillard and Swan to make an effort to put their finances in order, and this creates the possibility for Labor of a dignified departure. Labor's last-minute conversion to budget responsibility is good news for the national interest.

But Abbott also declared a "budget emergency," and Joe Hockey has described it as a "major crisis." How could that be good news?

Their hyperbole is helpful if it gives the Liberals the political elbow-room to enact responsible budgeting of their own. But in the short run at least, it's nonsense. Labor talked a lot of nonsense this week too, but consider the Liberals' overheated propaganda first.

Abbott does have a gift for lampooning Labor. This is from his budget reply: "The government originally said that the deficit was 'temporary.' With seven in a row, the Second World War was more temporary than this government's deficits."

And this one: "The Treasurer now says that there will be a surplus in four years' time. That's four years after the Treasurer and the Prime Minister said that it had already actually been delivered and spent tens of thousands of your dollars boasting about it in letters to their constituents. If a public company made these sorts of claims its directors would most likely face serious charges rather than asking to be re-elected."

But the Liberals' alarmism is thoroughly overdone. Compare Abbott's "budget emergency" with the assessment by the US-based credit rating, Moodys.

After seeing the budget, Moodys reaffirmed the Australian government's Aaa credit rating, the highest possible, and so did the other two major international ratings agencies. Moody's senior vice-president for sovereign risk, Steven Hess, sent out a client briefing note that said although the budget deterioration was a "credit negative development," "the projected deficits are relatively small as a percentage of GDP.

"As a result, the ratio of government debt to GDP will rise only marginally before beginning to decline, and Australia will remain among the few Aaa-rated sovereign debt issuers with a low level of debt. Australia's main vulnerability remains its dependence on external capital markets for finance, but this is not a major risk to the government's financial position unless global capital markets turn against Australian borrowers."

Even after adding the debts of all three tiers of government in Australia, Moodys couldn't really see how you could turn this into an emergency: "Including state and local government debt, consolidated government debt is approximately 25 per cent of GDP, still a low figure compared with other Aaa-rated countries.

"The median level for the 14 sovereigns that we rate Aaa is 50 per cent, and Australia has the lowest debt level of any Aaa-rated sovereign with the exception of Luxembourg."

Labor has been guilty of its own self-serving nonsense. Wayne Swan told us ad nauseam that he was unable to deliver the "guaranteed" surplus because of "massive write-downs" of revenues.

This is Treasury talk for "massively wrongheaded forecasts." The revenue was not "written down." It was never coming. It never existed and was never in prospect. The anticipated tax revenues were only ever expected under a fictitious scenario that the Treasury called a "forecast." Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard have both tried to explain the cause as an historically unusual development which Gillard told audiences this week was "incredibly technical".

No it's not, Prime Minister. It's incredibly simple. She and Swan love to go on about a divergence between two different ways of measuring economic growth - real gross domestic product growth and nominal GDP growth - as the core explanation. Far too complex for mere taxpayers, voters and citizens to understand.

But the simple reality is that there is only one measure that counts, and there has only ever been one. We earn our wages and buy our groceries and pay our electricity bills with the money that passes through our hands. This may be the thing the economists tell us is part of the "nominal" economy, but it's the one we all live in. It's the one that taxes are extracted from. We understand this, Prime Minister. We live in that world. We are, in fact, the ones who pay those taxes. The Treasury merely messed up its forecast.

It pitched a figure - it said growth in this "nominal" economy would be 5.1 per cent. And it turns out to be 3.25 per cent. For each missed percentage point, the Tax Office collects about $5 billion less, according to Stephen Anthony of the consultancy Macroeconomics. The anticipated money was a figment of the Treasury economists' imagination, but in Wayne Swan's mouth this turns into a "write-down."

So what has the Treasury done in this budget? It's pitched 5 per cent again. And 5 per cent or more in the three following years as well. Sigh. As the budget papers themselves explained in statement four, the good ol' days of Howard-era roaring revenues are not coming back. They're history.

So the Treasury got its guess wrong, and Swan then compounded the error by constructing his "iron-clad" surplus commitment on the basis of it. Now the Treasury is doing it again, and Swan is doing it again. He now promises a surplus in four years.

But this time, Swan probably won't be around to have to deal with the consequences. It's likely to be Joe Hockey's problem.

And just as political mortality sobered the Gillard government into some budget responsibility this week, the looming reality of the prime ministership has led Abbott to take a step towards some budget responsibility of his own on Thursday. Abbott's budget reply kept open the option of retaining any and all of Labor's spending cuts: "We reserve the right to implement all of Labor's cuts, if needed."

Including ones he called "objectionable," like dumping the Howard brainchild, the baby bonus. The Coalition shadow cabinet had baulked at this idea only months ago. Why the change?

Joe Hockey showed his shadow cabinet colleagues a slide on Monday night, the night before the budget. It listed spending cuts or tax increases that the Gillard government had announced, but not yet legislated. In other words, an Abbott government would very likely have to legislate them. They tallied to $28 billion.

Hockey warned his colleagues that the government would be announcing more the next night. "If we don't accept Labor's spending cuts, we will have to find spending cuts ourselves, plus find our own" to cut the deficit below the level they would inherit from Labor.

This so daunted the shadow cabinet that it gave in-principle support to the idea of accepting all the Labor spending cuts. It was the transforming power of impending ownership of the problem.

And in the longer run, Australia's public finances will be a problem. As the population ages, we face decades of severe strain and a future akin to Europe's present. It was a happy week for Australia because both sides of politics contemplated having to take responsibility for their decisions.

You have to start somewhere.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/seeing-sense-as-end-nears-20130517-2jrwb.html#ixzz2TcUf25Tb
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Gillard's $500m 'war chest'
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The Gillard government has stashed away a ''war chest'' of nearly half a billion dollars in secret projects to be announced before the election.

In Tuesday's budget, Treasurer Wayne Swan listed a line item of $463.9 million as ''decisions taken but not yet announced''.

Deloitte Access Economics director Chris Richardson said Australians should expect to see the money spent on a range of pork-barrelling campaign announcements.

''Yes it is a war chest, and they're holding back a bit of money here that will be announced before the election,'' he said.

In last year's budget papers, the same line item amounted to $119.4 million. Under questioning, Mr Swan denied it was an election war chest and said there were reasons the money was listed that way.

''Some of them can be commercial matters in confidence,'' he said. ''That's not a large amount of money in terms of decisions taken and not announced.''

Mr Swan's office subsequently suggested the measures could include defence contracts and other matters under negotiation.

But Mr Richardson said the money would be earmarked mostly for announcements designed to help the government retain office.

He said while some of what Mr Swan was saying about commercial in confidence matters could be true, much of the money would likely be targeted for pre-election spending. ''That money will get spent where the electoral margin is at its tightest.''

Another independent economic forecaster, Macroeconomics, agreed the explanation for ''decisions taken but not yet announced'' was simple.

''That's election spending,'' said Macroeconomics budget and forecasting director Stephen Anthony.

Mr Richardson said election spending would exceed half a billion dollars, but won't reach the ''stunning amounts'' of money thrown at the 2007 election.

However, he warned the spending would need to be announced before the government entered caretaker mode or ''technically the Coalition can spend that money too''.

The Coalition's spokesman for scrutiny and government waste, Jamie Briggs, said the amount was suspiciously high.

''It does seem a lot of money still to be spent so close to the end of the financial year. We will be looking at this very closely and we're not ruling out it being a war chest,'' he said.

''Contingency funds exist, but this seems very convenient and we don't trust Labor on it.''

The government has already been accused of using the budget to pork-barrel in the electorates of key independent MPs Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott.

Mr Windsor's New England electorate got $540,000 for three sporting and community projects. Mr Oakeshott's Lyne electorate got $412,000 for three youth, community and cultural projects.

Meanwhile, government ministers and MPs are on the warpath this weekend over Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's pledge to defer the legislated increase in the superannuation guarantee from 9 to 12 per cent.

Cabinet minister Anthony Albanese said the Coalition's plan to delay by two years the increase was a ''sneak peek of the vicious cuts to the bone'' it had in store for Australians.

''Mr Abbott has said himself that he believes compulsory superannuation is a con job, so it is little wonder that he's made this appalling commitment,'' Mr Albanese said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillards-500m-war-chest-20130518-2jtnn.html#ixzz2TeuMBMn2
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oh yes the talented bill shorten....LOL....#-o #-o #-o

and the green brains trust Milne....:cool:


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i might actually see if i can join the ALP.....

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here's one for all the lefties and there mate kevin 07....:cool:


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liar ????? or not?????[youtube]YTAlUT2WifM[/youtube]
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What's with this whole "removing australia from the refugee convention" thing? Is Gillard trying to get Australia to take the US's mantle of "world's biggest assholes" or what?
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Do you mean excising the mainland from the refugee zone thing? That's a big difference to revoking the refugee convention.
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Honestly, I wasn't entirely sure what the whole thing meant. But we're being portrayed as pantomime villains by various foreign news sites for it.
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Honestly, I wasn't entirely sure what the whole thing meant. But we're being portrayed as pantomime villains by various foreign news sites for it.
I'm ok with that.
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Rudd set to challenge again: Pyne
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Senior Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne says a Labor source has told him Kevin Rudd will again challenge for the leadership in June.

Mr Rudd this week revealed he now supports gay marriage, having voted against it in parliament in 2012.

Mr Pyne told ABC radio on Wednesday the change of stance on gay marriage was a signal Mr Rudd intended to challenge Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

"My information from within the inside of the Labor Party is that (a challenge) is planned for June 3rd ... or the week of June 3rd," Mr Pyne said.

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He said the same source had told him about Mr Rudd's change of heart on gay marriage two days before the former Labor leader went public in an essay on his blog.

Mr Pyne said Mr Rudd also planned to make another "interesting statement" on policy within the next two weeks, before launching his challenge.

He said he knew the topic of the statement, but would not reveal it.

On Tuesday, Mr Rudd rejected suggestions his new position on gay marriage had anything to do with the leadership.

Labor frontbencher Mark Butler said Mr Pyne's claim was "complete garbage".

"I have heard no such thing," Mr Butler said.

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I don't think anyone in the ALP would be as stupid to leak anything to Pyne of all people.
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They might actually have a chance if it happens.
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Decade of tax cuts blamed for Australia's severe structural deficit

BY:DAVID CROWE From: The Australian May 22, 2013 4:56PM

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THE federal budget has fallen into a structural deficit so severe that it will keep the nation's finances in the red for at least a year longer than the latest official forecasts, according to a long-awaited analysis by parliament's independent budget authority.

The Parliamentary Budget Office blames generous tax cuts over the past decade for helping to drive the budget into a structural deficit, in a clear warning against future government decisions that would sacrifice badly-needed tax revenue.

In a challenge to Labor's claims about the long-term savings in last week's budget, the PBO warns that the savings will only be enough to fund school reform and disability services without leaving anything left to alleviate pressure on the budget balance.

The findings are certain to intensify the political debate over the nation's finances as Coalition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey makes his formal response to the budget in a major speech to the National Press Club today.

While last week's federal budget forecast surpluses of $800 million in 2015-16 and $6.6 billion the following year, a political fight is underway over the underlying state of the nation's accounts over the long term, smoothing out short-term changes.

The PBO analysis issued today shows the structural deficit began begun in the last years of the Howard government and would continue until at least 2016-17.

The release comes one day after Wayne Swan acknowledged the structural pressures on the budget and as Treasury issued a separate paper on the subject.

Mr Hockey and finance spokesman Andrew Robb have called for several years for greater transparency on the underlying state of the budget, frustrated that an analysis of the issue was included in some budgets in the past but excluded from others.

The PBO concludes that the federal budget is in a strong position with low levels of net debt and “fiscal space” for governments to address the revenue and spending challenges.

However, it says the structural budget balance declined steadily from 2002-03 through to 2011-12, indicating that a recovery has only been underway in the last two budgets.

It also says the budget moved into a structural balance briefly from 2006-7 to 2007-08 the final years of the Howard government, but then fell into a deficit of more than 3 per cent of economic output.

“From the structural budget balance peak in 2002-03 to its trough in 2011-12, the structural level of receipts excluding GST fell by around five percentage points of GDP,” it says.

“The structural level of government payments excluding GST over this period rose by around one percentage point of GDP and hence the structural budget balance fell into deficit.”

The PBO blames personal income tax cuts for two thirds of the decline in structural tax receipts over the past decade.

The tax cuts began under the Howard government but were continued by Labor when Mr Swan and former prime minister Kevin Rudd decided in the 2007 election campaign to adopt more than $30 billion in tax cuts announced by former treasurer Peter Costello a few days earlier.

The PBO also blames the structural deficit on former prime minister John Howard's decision in 2001 to abolish the indexation of petroleum fuel excise. The PBO analysis finds that one quarter of the decline in structural receipts is the result of falls in excise and customs duties.

A separate study of the budget, issued by Treasury this morning, also found that the budget had slipped into a structural deficit.

Treasury said the structural budget position would return to surplus in 2018-19 but cautioned that it was difficult to pin the timeframe down to a single year.

The Treasury said the structural savings in last week's budget helped improve the position over the next four years but, unlike the PBO, made no comment on the impact of these on the longer term.

Treasury emphasised the impact of the terms of trade on the structural balance and noted the widening of the deficit as a result of the fiscal stimulus during the global financial crisis.

Treasury noted the fall in tax receipts as a share of GDP but mentioned the income tax cuts only once.

“The fiscal stimulus measures have since been unwound; however, the factors that have reduced the tax share of GDP continue to weigh on the budget position,” it said.

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Who needs democracy and free speech when you can have 'flexibility' and 'productivity'.
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Piss off Rudd
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Peter Costello believes Tony Abbott will win the next election, "even if caught naked down Collins Street"

STEPHEN MCMAHON NEWS LIMITED NETWORK MAY 24, 2013

EVEN if Tony Abbott were caught streaking naked down Collins Street in Melbourne the Coalition would probably still win the looming election, former Federal Treasurer Peter Costello says.

The nation's longest serving Treasurer is tipping victory with a "large majority" for the Coalition on September 14.

But this boast from a Liberal elder won't be welcomed by the current leadership team struggling to keep the lid on expectations.

In an interview ahead of being made a life member of the Liberal Party this evening , Mr Costello talks to News Limited about the difficulties facing the next government in returning the budget into the black, the Coalition's prospects at the ballot box and his tumultuous relationship with former Prime Minister John Howard.

The Coalition has lifted its game in recent months but it is still too early to tell if an Abbott-led government would have the reforming zeal needed to revolutionise the nation's tax system and put it on a more sustainable footing, he claims.

"The (broken) promise to have the budget in surplus has been quite catastrophic for Gillard," Mr Costello said.

"Unless Tony Abbot gets caught stark raving naked in Collins Street, I think it's over and even then he might win."

The Coalition's decision to postpone the planned increase in the superannuation contributions to 9.5 per cent for two years was welcomed as a good first move as it will deliver "big money" to the nation's bottom line over the coming financial years.

The key advice from the last Treasurer to deliver a budget surplus - 10 surpluses out of 12 budgets - to shadow treasurer Joe Hockey was to get spending under control.

The Gillard government's centre piece - the Gonski education reforms - are blasted as a "pie in the sky" promise that will lift spending but not necessarily educational outcomes.

Mr Costello is also critical that while the National Disability Scheme is a worthy project, the funding of the national roll-out in 2018-19 will be enormously expensive.

But he defended the axed Baby Bonus scheme - one of his signature decisions while Treasurer - as being the right thing at the time, even if the introduction of the much more generous paid parental leave was the beginning of the end for the program.

Mr Costello said that after 19 years in parliament and more than 13 years as deputy leader it was "pleasing" to become only the fourth person to receive honorary life membership of the Federal Liberal Party.

The award was first given to John and Janette Howard and former Victorian MP and state president David Kemp last year.

But Mr Costello seems prouder of his legacy in terms of former staff members who are part of the next generation of Liberal leaders.

His alumni includes Victorian Treasurer Michael O'Brien, Federal MP Kelly O'Dwyer - who succeeded her former boss as the member for Higgins - and Victorian Federal Senators Mitch Fifield and Scott Ryan.

Despite sitting beside him in cabinet for 12 years, Mr Costello admits not being disappointed about former PM John Howard's decision to miss the gala dinner at the Melbourne Museum.

"I don't spend a lot of time with him," Mr Costello said.

"I advised him that it would have been in his interests and the interests of the Liberal Party for him to stand down. And I think history confirmed I was right. He lost his seat."

"I don't think he liked that advice but I think it was the right advice for him and the Liberal Party and he knows that. He is not the kind of person to say sorry but he knows that. So you let bygones be bygones. I don't have to remind him of it."

Mr Costello is also upbeat the Victorian Liberal Party is moving in the right direction since the dumping of former Premier Ted Baillieu.

"Napthine has made a very good start. The public response to Napthine has been very good and that has turned Victoria's fortunes quite a bit at a federal level," he said.

Mr Costello also credited the Opposition's move towards major issues such as the economy has also played a key role in lifting the Coalitions' support base, especially in states such as Victoria.



QUOTABLE QUOTES

Getting the budget back in the black:

"We need a full court press. And we have got to stop the increases in spending."
Telling John Howard to step down

"I don't think he liked that advice but I think it was the right advice for him and the Liberal Party and he knows that. He is not the kind of person to say sorry but he knows that."
Gonski education reforms

"Gonski is pie in the sky stuff with massive big increases. It is not a question of less money going into schools. But spending doesn't need to be increased as much as recommended."
This year's budget

"By and large the people that will benefit are the high income earners. It will be harder on poor families and much more generous to middle and high income earners."
Liberals in Victoria after Ted

"There has been a big turnaround. Napthine has made a very good start. The public response to Napthine has been very good and that has been reflected in the polls and turned Victoria's fortunes quite a bit at the federal level,"
NDIS

"Somebody is going to have to get to grips with NDIS - it is a 50 per cent funded scheme and the government has completely misled people into thinking it is funded. We should do more for the disabled but the government has got away with not being entirely honest."

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I say we put this to the test.
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Shut up Costello.
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