The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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notorganic wrote:
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Lol spoken like a true elitist. The vast majority of working class Australians doesn't give two fucks about gay marriage or Abortion for that matter but they are worried about the Carbon tax costing jobs and driving up cost of living

When I last checked the cost of living was lower since the Carbon Tax was introduced due to rebates to low and middle income earners. :-"


You're statement actually contradicts the truth......

more like for a select few the cost of living is lower DUE to rebates.....so you are admitting the cost of living has increased.....

Fact is the cost of living is higher.....FACT forget rebates and looking after the ALP's voting demographic....rule for all Australian's not just those who vote for you.....


The cost of living going up was always part of the plan.

The rebates go to 90%+ of Australians.

So much for the select few...



the other point that needs to be made is ....if you get a rebate on say your power bill....yo're argument might be plausible....where is the rebate for all the goods and services i now pay more for due to the increases??????????????;) ;) ;)
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batfink wrote:
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Lol spoken like a true elitist. The vast majority of working class Australians doesn't give two fucks about gay marriage or Abortion for that matter but they are worried about the Carbon tax costing jobs and driving up cost of living

When I last checked the cost of living was lower since the Carbon Tax was introduced due to rebates to low and middle income earners. :-"


You're statement actually contradicts the truth......

more like for a select few the cost of living is lower DUE to rebates.....so you are admitting the cost of living has increased.....

Fact is the cost of living is higher.....FACT forget rebates and looking after the ALP's voting demographic....rule for all Australian's not just those who vote for you.....


The cost of living going up was always part of the plan.

The rebates go to 90%+ of Australians.

So much for the select few...



the other point that needs to be made is ....if you get a rebate on say your power bill....yo're argument might be plausible....where is the rebate for all the goods and services i now pay more for due to the increases??????????????;) ;) ;)


See, this is the fundamental downfall of Gillard and her government. The ability to adequately explain how something words.

You now have the country divided into two groups - people that were able to figure it out, and people that weren't.
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batfink wrote:
can you provide what rebates apply and what demographic are covered......


Here you go.

http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/household-assistance-package#include
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notorganic wrote:
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Lol spoken like a true elitist. The vast majority of working class Australians doesn't give two fucks about gay marriage or Abortion for that matter but they are worried about the Carbon tax costing jobs and driving up cost of living

When I last checked the cost of living was lower since the Carbon Tax was introduced due to rebates to low and middle income earners. :-"


You're statement actually contradicts the truth......

more like for a select few the cost of living is lower DUE to rebates.....so you are admitting the cost of living has increased.....

Fact is the cost of living is higher.....FACT forget rebates and looking after the ALP's voting demographic....rule for all Australian's not just those who vote for you.....


The cost of living going up was always part of the plan.

The rebates go to 90%+ of Australians.

So much for the select few...



the other point that needs to be made is ....if you get a rebate on say your power bill....yo're argument might be plausible....where is the rebate for all the goods and services i now pay more for due to the increases??????????????;) ;) ;)


See, this is the fundamental downfall of Gillard and her government. The ability to adequately explain how something words.

You now have the country divided into two groups - people that were able to figure it out, and people that weren't.



LOL...i can figure it out Matt, i am worse off by a long way...you talk of rebates??? you mean the piss fart one on my electricity account??

the fact is the cost of living has increased......sure i get a rebate....but all the services and good i buy have increased and no compensation is available........i don't get household assistance.....




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Gillard needs to call for Holgers sacking.
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This thread is getting hilarious thanks to all the lefties.

Roll on September.
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This thread is getting hilarious thanks to all the lefties.

Roll on September.


probably all defending their welfare and assistance payments.......everyone line up and stick your snout in the trough


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But the Liberal Party clearly doesn't have any issue with women!

Jesus fucking Christ. Don't these people know better?
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But the Liberal Party clearly doesn't have any issue with women!

Jesus fucking Christ. Don't these people know better?


If they have a problem with woman as much as people like to say why is the second most senior person in the party a woman?


That's not a woman.
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funny Gillard and ALP comment on Abbott's budgie smugglers then cry about the KFC menu joke......................
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batfink wrote:
funny Gillard and ALP comment on Abbott's budgie smugglers then cry about the KFC menu joke......................


Did they? I'd be interested to see where they made those comments... Do you have a link to a news article, or press conference or something that will support your claims?
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macktheknife wrote:
But the Liberal Party clearly doesn't have any issue with women!

Jesus fucking Christ. Don't these people know better?



you're joking right...!!!!

the LNP party have as much as a problem with women and the ALP have with men.....

who put the whole sexist topic out there.....yes little miss shit for brains.....

go get a job](*,) ](*,)
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notorganic wrote:
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funny Gillard and ALP comment on Abbott's budgie smugglers then cry about the KFC menu joke......................


Did they? I'd be interested to see where they made those comments... Do you have a link to a news article, or press conference or something that will support your claims?


will do....as soon as you starting providing the same with all of you're anecdotal opinions


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Getting a job is easier said then done.

-PB

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batfink wrote:
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funny Gillard and ALP comment on Abbott's budgie smugglers then cry about the KFC menu joke......................


Did they? I'd be interested to see where they made those comments... Do you have a link to a news article, or press conference or something that will support your claims?


will do....as soon as you starting providing the same with all of you're anecdotal opinions



What you're saying is not an anecdotal opinion.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
Getting a job is easier said then done.

-PB


Apparently the jobs market is toast because of Gillard, but anyone on the dole is a lazy shit and should stop getting handouts & get a job.

/batfinklogic
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notorganic wrote:
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Getting a job is easier said then done.

-PB


Apparently the jobs market is toast because of Gillard, but anyone on the dole is a lazy shit and should stop getting handouts & get a job.

/batfinklogic



more of you're misleading statements.......

Firstly: my comments about welfare were that there are plenty of people rorting the system and they should be ratted out....pretty simple,even for you to comprehend Matt.

Secondly: it's not hard to get a job.....it's really easy..... might be hard to find a job that you really want, or pays as much as you dream about or has the hours you want or is in a location that is perfect....so it's easy to say i can't be bothered and i'll sit back and take it easy.....
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Actually not really.

You haven't job searched in modern times batfink, you said it yourself.

Try going out now and even getting "easy" jobs such as things in retail, hospitalities or even basic trades/labour.

Not easy.

-PB

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http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/kevin-rudd-declares-war-on-julia-gillard-with-bluetie-choice/story-fnho52qo-1226662394386

That's it. Shows over. Everyone go home. Let the Chinese take over.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
Actually not really.

You haven't job searched in modern times batfink, you said it yourself.

Try going out now and even getting "easy" jobs such as things in retail, hospitalities or even basic trades/labour.

Not easy.

-PB



but isn't our economy in great shape???? isn't the employment figures at really low levels, isn't this government doing a great job and it's all beer and skittles???
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batfink wrote:
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Actually not really.

You haven't job searched in modern times batfink, you said it yourself.

Try going out now and even getting "easy" jobs such as things in retail, hospitalities or even basic trades/labour.

Not easy.

-PB



but isn't our economy in great shape???? isn't the employment figures at really low levels, isn't this government doing a great job and it's all beer and skittles???


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batfink wrote:
circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because...


My local Coles just advertised for a retail assistant (ie checkout chick). Normally they get around 10-20 applications. They had 87.

I've been looking to move on from my venue and I've never had so much trouble getting a gig as I am right now. Normally I've had 4-5 offers, I've had 1.

Batfink, you are by far the most out of touch person on this forum.
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Jobless rate tipped to hit 10-year high
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Australia's jobs outlook has turned gloomier, with economists now tipping the unemployment rate to rise above 6 per cent by the end of the year - a level not seen in nearly a decade.

Before the release of May's jobless figures on Thursday, some analysts expected the rate to rise to 5.6 per cent, with 10,000 jobs lost from the economy.

The latest figures follow a gain of 50,000 positions in April. Economists have raised jobless forecasts - from a previous projection of 5.75 per cent - amid a slower than expected handover from mining to non-mining sectors.

''[The economy's] not growing fast enough in a fundamental sense to generate enough jobs to keep the unemployment rate level,'' NAB chief economist Alan Oster said.

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''If you annualised the last six months of domestic demand, you've basically had no growth, so the slowdown has already happened.''

The revisions came as retailer Target cut 260 positions from its Geelong head office and regional sites. Patersons Securities economist Tony Farnham said anecdotal evidence of job losses outside the mining sector showed the May federal budget projection of a 5.75 per cent jobless rate by June 2014 was too optimistic.

Meanwhile, the Westpac-Melbourne Institute index of consumer sentiment, released on Wednesday, found that consumer confidence rose by 4.7 per cent in June after a 7 per cent fall in May.

The index rose above 100 to 102.2, meaning optimists slightly outnumbered pessimists.

Mr Oster said although the recent fall in the dollar was expected to help export-oriented sectors, the weaker currency would only ''help at the margin''.

The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created. Bank of America Merrill Lynch Australia chief economist Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same level.

Analysts said the data weighed heavily on the Reserve Bank's decision to ease the cash rate or keep it on hold at its July board meeting.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/jobless-rate-tipped-to-hit-10year-high-20130612-2o4b0.html#ixzz2W0RIaHz6
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The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created


Hang on, does this mean there are more people than jobs?

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Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same leve


Maybe small business needs to pull its finger out, 25,000 jobs a month...but Batfink said.....
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Joffa wrote:
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The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created


Hang on, does this mean there are more people than jobs?

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Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same leve


Maybe small business needs to pull its finger out, 25,000 jobs a month...but Batfink said.....


If only there were some kind of way that during economic downturns in the global economy, there were projects we could work on domestically to keep infrastructure moving forward whilst providing much needed jobs for workers in Australia.
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notorganic wrote:
Joffa wrote:
Quote:
The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created


Hang on, does this mean there are more people than jobs?

Quote:
Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same leve


Maybe small business needs to pull its finger out, 25,000 jobs a month...but Batfink said.....


If only there were some kind of way that during economic downturns in the global economy, there were projects we could work on domestically to keep infrastructure moving forward whilst providing much needed jobs for workers in Australia.



You mean like NBN, spending on schools and the like?
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Joffa wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Joffa wrote:
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The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created


Hang on, does this mean there are more people than jobs?

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Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same leve


Maybe small business needs to pull its finger out, 25,000 jobs a month...but Batfink said.....


If only there were some kind of way that during economic downturns in the global economy, there were projects we could work on domestically to keep infrastructure moving forward whilst providing much needed jobs for workers in Australia.



You mean like NBN, spending on schools and the like?


Oh, no, no, no. That would be a huge waste of money.
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Sorry that I don't do sarcasm in blue text. I want people to work for it.
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notorganic wrote:
Joffa wrote:
notorganic wrote:
Joffa wrote:
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The unemployment rate is also forecast to rise as population growth outstrips the number of jobs created


Hang on, does this mean there are more people than jobs?

Quote:
Saul Eslake said if the participation rate - the percentage of people either in work or looking for work - remained steady, about 25,000 jobs needed to be created each month to keep the unemployment rate at the same leve


Maybe small business needs to pull its finger out, 25,000 jobs a month...but Batfink said.....


If only there were some kind of way that during economic downturns in the global economy, there were projects we could work on domestically to keep infrastructure moving forward whilst providing much needed jobs for workers in Australia.



You mean like NBN, spending on schools and the like?


Oh, no, no, no. That would be a huge waste of money.



The problem is that all unemployed people are dole bludgers, all of them!
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Soooo...the way to boost jobs is through govt funded infrastructure?

Ignoring the very reasons that mean govt stimulus for large projects is effectively now the 'only game in town'.

As for small business, with our labour laws and red tape its surprising our already horrendously high SME failure rate is not even higher! Who would go into business these days at the entrepreneurial level...our economy is broken at that end, we have a Government/Corporation based economy and not much else...

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