Isn't a reduced amount of money circulating through the economy the definition of a recession :-k

Yes, I really should have used blue text shouldn't I?

Yes, I really should have used blue text shouldn't I?

Why do people continually espouse the fallacy that the Prime Minister is elected by the electorate rather than the political party/coalition that forms government?

Ah, the party's may well choose their leaders, but the PM is elected by the electorate.

Well Abbott hasn't lead a government , so it's difficult to hold his "government" to account when he's not been in office before.

Other than you're pretty much spot on. Rudd fucked up and got booted out by his own party, he didn't even last a full term. How pathetic is that, he got democratically elected and his own party white anted him before three years. He promised so much and gave us a turd sandwich. The guy is clearly not fit to lead, not even his own party want him let alone the Australian people. You can't really blame the Australian people for wanting to fire Rudd when his own party wants to. It's not a complex choice.

Labor are a total shambles, the last six years will be regarded as one of the worst in the history of Labor party and Australian politics. It comes down to people simply believing Abbott deserves a chance while Labor and Rudd don't deserve another. I don't share your doom and gloom about massive job cuts, wage increases blah blah blah. The overall economic mood will usually always be stronger under a Liberal tutelage than a Labor one. I don't think overpaid ,underutilised Canberra public servants being transitioned into a productive capacity in the private sector is a bad thing.

thuper is there something wrong with you? Keating a bad leader? WTF?

Keating? He was atrocious! Made a half decent treasurer in a good Hawke government but completely lost the plot as PM, which is why Howard won by a landslide.

Not only is this election a national IQ test, it's a referendum on gay marriage

Nah, he got voted out by people like me who hadn't actually researched what they were voting for but got led by the nose through the media.

A mistake I have never repeated.

Howard targeted his campaign in a similar way to Abbott. Tried to stay low profile, kept or slightly adjusted the popular policies but not enough to rile people up.
Was the beginning of the bullshit election campaigns we have now.

Also Howard was voted out in a landslide in 07. Did that make him an atrocious prime minister in your eyes?

Nah, he got voted out by people like me who hadn't actually researched what they were voting for but got led by the nose through the media.

A mistake I have never repeated.

You have to love the arrogance of Labor voters. You gave us arguably the most dysfunctional government in Australian political history and yet tell us we're the stupid ones for wanting to change the government.

You have to love the arrogance of Labor voters. You gave us arguably the most dysfunctional government in Australian political history and yet tell us we're the stupid ones for wanting to change the government.

Everyone who votes Labor must feel like a real wanker within themselves, a poor excuse to feel intellectually better in return for giving us more shit government. Anyone on the centre or right can simply waltz over to the left and get to feel like a cool, trendy, hipster Labor wannabe intellectual as well, but some of us have our countries interests at heart.

I personally would hate to have to mope around all day with other Labor jackasses just so I can feel like I belong to the esoteric intelligentsia of society, and look down on hard working blue collar citizens who probably earn more money than I do.

Why is it all left wingers are complete dickheads and so oblivious to it?

Nah, he got voted out by people like me who hadn't actually researched what they were voting for but got led by the nose through the media.

A mistake I have never repeated.

Didn't have the internet back then.

-PB

You have to love the arrogance of Labor voters. You gave us arguably the most dysfunctional government in Australian political history and yet tell us we're the stupid ones for wanting to change the government.

Everyone who votes Labor must feel like a real wanker within themselves, a poor excuse to feel intellectually better in return for giving us more shit government. Anyone on the centre or right can simply waltz over to the left and get to feel like a cool, trendy, hipster Labor wannabe intellectual as well, but some of us have our countries interests at heart.

I personally would hate to have to mope around all day with other Labor jackasses just so I can feel like I belong to the esoteric intelligentsia of society, and look down on hard working blue collar citizens who probably earn more money than I do.

Why is it all left wingers are complete dickheads and so oblivious to it?

I don't but the whole notion that Rudd did a poor job first up. Im pretty sure there was a national uproar when he got ousted by the party and people wanted him back

Abbotts policies are silly, but hey, lets give him a chance to implement those policies and see how the country fares. Hope everyone looking forward to dial up internet, the six point plan to stop the boats and lack of education funding.

I just cant understand how people can look at Newman who cut jobs to save money then decided he deserved a pay rise on the same level as the President of The United States. He cut jobs to save money, then gave himself a pay rise. Just remember, this is the man from the same party as Abbott. They all the same.

I should stress im not a Labor voter, my vote is private and I actually haven't decided who to vote for yet.

No, you are wrong. We do not have direct elections in Australia. What does the Prime Minster ballot paper look like? What colour is it?

Says the pot calling the kettle black.

You haven't articulated one reason to vote for the coalition other than to abuse the crap everyone that votes otherwise. Yes Labor have had some internal instability but they still managed us through a GFC with success. They introduced the Gonski reform they are investing in our Future through infrastructure and the NBN. They recognize the right of gay men and women and they apologized to the stolen generation.

I vote with my head and not how Alan Jones or NewsLimited tells me vote.

Edited by leftrightout: 7/9/2013 01:17:48 PM

If you sift through enough dirt you will find some diamonds. The overall performance has been shocking, even most Labor voters will attest to this.

:lol:

Everyone has the power to vote, doesn't make them a fuckwit.

-PB

You a wasted vote.

You complaing about a government that was led by Gillard and decide then that you need to vote out Kevin Rudd.

And instead of choosing a proper alternative, you choose Tony Abbott. The bigot who has time and time again said he will cut public services and only care for big business.

The last Liberal I know who did this was a certain Campbell Newman. He sent the queensland economy in to all sorts of crap and then decided he was worthy of a pay rise that is equal to the president of the United States.

After all this chatter of LNP putting on sausage sizzles I was dissapointed not to get one at my local polling area.

-PB

Isn't a reduced amount of money circulating through the economy the definition of a recession :-k

Were you even alive when Rudd got ousted? His popularity was plummeting fast and Gillard's rise was an attempts to save the election. He only became popular again once everyone realised how bad Julia was, but it was only ever the flash in the pan popularity based on his media appeal not the sustainable, long term kind you need to last as a PM.

Again I don't share your pessimism regarding Liberals policies. I consider Labors policies fantastic but their track record on delivering on them appalling. The actual implementation of policies is what parties should be judged on rather than the words on the paper.

how do you know i voted for Abbott?????

and seeing you are so high and mighty....please inform me who the proper alternative is in your humble opinion....

humpty dumpty?????

Edited by batfink: 7/9/2013 02:10:35 PM