The only worthwhile fact is the Libs are in power and will run the country for the next three years (at least), you don't need any other reason to gloat other than that one.

It's not like Abbott and co they're sitting around their bowls of cornflakes crying because they didn't get the swingers vote, the important thing is they got the winning vote.

Me neither batfink I'd not hesitate to vote Labor if they weren't so good at fucking things up. Big on ideas little on execution.

They're hiding them all in the mangroves.

Yeah they did a good job of keeping siev X out of the public eye didn't they.

LNP's primary only increased 1.7%. To say that the swing against Labor went to the Libs is stupid, and you are stupid for saying it.

Time to move on methinks. The country has got a new PM and this won't change for at least 3 years.

Let's hope Tony Abbott and his cabinet deliver for all Australia, surely we can all be united on that.

Wasn't there as much a swing away from the Greens as there was Labor?

Journalists on smuggling boat intercepted off Australia

By AFP

September 09, 2013 - Updated 1330 PKT
From Web Edition

SYDNEY: Two journalists were found on a people-smuggling boat intercepted off northern Australia, officials said Monday, with reports they had spent three days at sea and were badly sunburnt.

The pair, one Dutch and one United States national, were on board a vessel carrying 57 passengers that was detected by the navy's HMAS Armidale off remote Christmas Island overnight, an immigration official told.

"Two people who disembarked from a suspected irregular entry vessel at Christmas Island today have presented as journalists," an immigration department spokeswoman said.

"These people had valid travel documents and held Australian visas. They have been cleared by immigration on arrival."

Immigration could not say which, if any, organisation the men claimed to be from but they were later confirmed to be Afghanistan-based photographer Joel van Houdt and reporter Luke Mogelson.

They are believed to be on assignment for the New York Times Magazine.

Van Houdt's girlfriend, Amie Ferris-Rotman, said they had paid a people-smuggler in Indonesia for passage to Australia.

"Very proud of @joelvanhoudt and Luke Mogelson for becoming the first journos to get on an asylum boat to Australia," Ferris-Rotman posted on Twitter.

She said it had been a "long 72 hours" waiting for the pair to arrive in Australia, adding that van Houdt took a refugee boat to Spain in similar circumstances in 2008.

They had been in touch since his arrival in Australia and Ferris-Rotman, a Knight journalism fellow at Stanford University in the United States, said he was fine and in good spirits.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation said the men had spent three days at sea and were badly sunburnt.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-117436-Journalists-on-smuggling-boat-intercepted-off-Australia?

Not quite as much, but then again The Greens had a smaller starting point.

The sooner Milne leaves and Bandt takes over to drive the party forward the better.

Also not happy with The Secular Party where we missed a lot of opportunity to increase our primary vote with the growing issues of marriage equality and SRI in schools bubbling just behind the surface of major election points.

In part, it's a lack of money and boots on the ground, but we're also failing to play to our base of skeptics, atheists & freethinkers at a grassroots level whilst simultaneously aleniating ourselves from a significant chunk of society in compassionate, progressive & humanistic believers. I hope that over the next 3 years we will have sufficient time to reflect on our failings as a party and get back on track to doing the great innovative, rational & positive policy work that we know we are capable of.

I'm not saying they're the only solution, but it kills two birds with one stone. Increasing population justifies an increase the amount of land being released to the public, then once the Baby Boomers make up a smaller percentage of the populace you're able to gradually flood the market more efficiently without destroying people's life savings.

That's why the minor parties won so many seats...

Again, land availability. You can't build if you don't have anything to build on.

So the Labor Party actually picked up more votes than the Liberal party.

I don't think that's actually true,

wut.

-PB

Should've said, at this time.

According to the ABC as of 9:14pm with 77.2% counted the Labor party has 3,616,324 primary votes, while the Liberal party has 3,395,035

Btw I'm not talking Coalition, just purely the Liberal party and the Labor party.

The way the Libs break up their state branches is a bit different from Labor. Once you factor that their primary vote is ahead.

Got a link? Happy to check it out.

Secular.org.au

The two parties won the same number of seats. But then there's all the little factioned portions of the Liberal Party to account for.

there is shit loads of land......especially in NSW, all ready to build....but cost's for developers and builders has escalated out of control....add to that the banks dropping liquidity % on loans, the government introduced home owners insurance to protect the banks, and spiralling cost of builing materials due to the carbon tax and it's little wonder why these industries are rooted and the cost of land and houses are so high......

LOL...wasn't saying RMR manipulated the data, was suggesting that you were in that industry and well versed in how that data could be manipulated.....

there is no benefit for RMR to get the election results wrong...;)

so you are telling me that Labor voters went to the polls and registered informal votes rather than putting themselves through hell and voting for the coalition???????

and then you accuse me of not being able to grasp the concept of more than two political parties?!??!?!?

](*,) ](*,) sharp as a bowling ball....

Did batfink just argue with himself?...

-PB

works for me....;) ;)

Most sense he's made in years.

:lol: Had an argument with someone yesterday who was trying to claim that informal votes count as votes for Labor. After a few mins I started really regretting getting involved in the argument :lol:

One is a donkey vote, the other is a vote for a donkey.

I still laugh at the fact News Ltd predicted that Chris Bowen would lose McMahon :lol:

It came pretty close. His smear campaign against Ray King worked a treat. Bowen is scum the way he kept up the mudslinging.

It worked for him though.