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rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting.
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batfink
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macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? it's more bullshit........more of your bullshit......when you make comment based on the situation that you are presenting, you only strengthen the position of your opponents..... you ca't be serious, these figures are always in delay, as will the next set, so if unemployment figures drop next report that won't be due to the coalition either..... let's all try and keep it real....;)
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batfink
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Joffa wrote:rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting. seriously Joffa.....you are one of the pretty level head dudes in here....you are better than that comment
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thupercoach
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Joffa wrote:rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting. That just makes no sense... Has mack got your password?
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batfink
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thupercoach wrote:Joffa wrote:rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting. That just makes no sense... Has mack got your password? i've had to put 4 guys off , so i am sure those unemployment figures are set to rise
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rusty
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Joffa wrote:rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting. Nothing interesting about it, business and consumer confidence can change instantaneously whereas employment rates are a lot harder to adjust.
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thupercoach
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batfink wrote:thupercoach wrote:Joffa wrote:rusty wrote:macktheknife wrote:rusty wrote:Joffa wrote:Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.5%, I thought the Liberals were good for business and the economy....
Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 01:13:25 PM They're not even in government yet lol But they've kept telling us that the moment we get rid of Juliar and Rudd the Dudd then business will pickup because everyone will have 'confidence' and 'stability'? Or was that just more bullshit? Well you just can't change things overnight, you can't undo six years of bad government and austerity measures placed on businesses with one election. If you were readiing the news business and consumer is the highest it's been since May 2011, so the signs for greater economic prosperity are there. So you only claim the positives that 'happen overnight' and not the negatives.....interesting. That just makes no sense... Has mack got your password? i've had to put 4 guys off , so i am sure those unemployment figures are set to rise I meant has Mack got Joffa's password...;)
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macktheknife
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If I was a moderator the first thing that would happen is Mr AFL getting a ban lasting until the middle of the millennium.
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thupercoach
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macktheknife wrote:If I was a moderator the first thing that would happen is Mr AFL getting a ban lasting until the middle of the millennium. Nah, I'm ok with his bit of trolling. He unwittingly shines the light on how small and insignificant his game is. It's a forum after all, diversity of opinion is a good thing. Edited by thupercoach: 15/9/2013 07:14:34 PM
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General Ashnak
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batfink wrote:afromanGT wrote:macktheknife wrote:So he's going to WASTE BILLIONS in ILLEGITIMATE HANDOUTS?
What happened to the BUDGET EMERGENCY??????? That only applies when you're trying to make the incumbent look bad. Once you're in power it's all "It's not as bad as we made it look". OR it is bad , and bad enough to need to stimulate again.... #-o
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No12
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Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong Leaked report reveals the world is warming at half the rate claimed by IPCC in 2007 Scientists accept their computers 'may have exaggerated' By David Rose Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Global-warming-just-HALF-said-Worlds-climate-scientists-admit-computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html#ixzz2f0BD7DvK Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook It is about time for some reporters to get their heads out and to report some truth about this hoax global industry.
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f1worldchamp
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Deserves it's own thread.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Deserves it's own thread. LOL....scientists....:-"
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f1worldchamp wrote:Deserves it's own thread. There is a reason why I placed this leaked report here, we are directly affected by Labor’s Carbon Tax, this is how our former government based their policies on Climate Change, six years of lying and denial.
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No12 wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Deserves it's own thread. There is a reason why I placed this leaked report here, we are directly affected by Labor’s Carbon Tax, this is how our former government based their policies on Climate Change, six years of lying and denial. Oh, I agree with that 100%, but it would make some heated discussion on the infallibility (or otherwise) of science often claimed on these pages.
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Just read it - they're still saying the world is warming, just at half the forecast rate. They're also still saying we are at fault for the warming.
But it appears from the article that they are unable to provide a clear explanation why the works hasn't experienced any significant warming since 1997.
Obviously I'm not going to read the full report but it seems to have been made by reputable scientists so it seems legit.
All the more reason to scrap the carbon tax, which even if you believe in the "science" would make all but no difference to the Earth's temperature.
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thupercoach wrote:Just read it - they're still saying the world is warming, just at half the forecast rate. They're also still saying we are at fault for the warming. Well, from these two quotes from the article, they might still be saying we are at fault for the warming, but they they really don't know for sure. Quote:Professor Judith Curry, head of climate science at Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, said the leaked summary showed that ‘the science is clearly not settled, and is in a state of flux’. and Quote:They admit large parts of the world were as warm as they are now for decades at a time between 950 and 1250 AD – centuries before the Industrial Revolution, and when the population and CO2 levels were both much lower.
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thupercoach
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f1worldchamp wrote:thupercoach wrote:Just read it - they're still saying the world is warming, just at half the forecast rate. They're also still saying we are at fault for the warming. Well, from these two quotes from the article, they might still be saying we are at fault for the warming, but they they really don't know for sure. Quote:Professor Judith Curry, head of climate science at Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, said the leaked summary showed that ‘the science is clearly not settled, and is in a state of flux’. and Quote:They admit large parts of the world were as warm as they are now for decades at a time between 950 and 1250 AD – centuries before the Industrial Revolution, and when the population and CO2 levels were both much lower. Oh look I don't need convincing, I think the whole thing's ridiculous.
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No12
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afromanGT wrote:girtXc wrote:afromanGT wrote:So, everyone ready for a recession? What makes you think it can get any worse. We are already there from my observations, particularly the last 18 months with the unprecedented number of manufacturing job losses It's not affecting me but so many others are under extreme financial stress Was talking with a mate about it last night (who's actually qualified in the financial fields). Basically he hypothesised Liberal government continues to financially protect Baby Boomers, resulting in continued increase in land prices and higher mortgages (including for baby boomers) who pass on that cost in rent, pushing up commercial property costs and thus product costs, thus continually devaluing the dollar and driving recession. Maybe this has something to do with our property pricing? THE PROPERTY OBSERVER INSIGHT "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market," says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. Categories Australian Capital Territory New South Wales Queensland Victoria Tasmania South Australia Western Australia Northern Territory Property News Trends Economy International China watch Foreign investment Chinese appetite for Australian residential property hits $5.4 billion as demand for luxury property rises By Larry Schlesinger Friday, 19 July 2013 The value of Australian residential property purchased by Chinese-based buyers reached $5.4 billion in the 2013 financial year, according to figures from Chinese property portal Juwai.com. This is around a 25% increase on US$4 billion ($4 billion to $4.2 billion in local currency) of Australian property purchased by Chinese buyers in 2011. "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market,” says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. "The properties that will have the most success with Chinese buyers are located in major metropolitan areas or in growing mining areas, are working farms or are new developments
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General Ashnak
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  20 ministries plus Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and Attorney-General.
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For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players.
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Eastern Glory
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Disappointed that Alex Hawke didn't get a portfolio. I really like the guy, and I'm totally confident that one day he'll be Australia's Prime Minister.
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General Ashnak
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Can't find junior ministers anywhere yet.
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General Ashnak wrote:Can't find junior ministers anywhere yet. And that's fair enough, however I think Mr Hawke is set for a bigger role in the next few years. He will be a big asset for a party which doesn't have many characters or a likeable figure head. He's fantastic on his feet and great with any audience. He knows his policies and he isn't afraid to say he thinks. He's very passionate about his electorate and is always keen to meet people and listen to them. He may be a quite conservative in his thinking, but I have lots of time for the guy.
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Bishop as Foreign Minister :lol: Dis gun b gud :lol: -PB
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thupercoach
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Looks a solid, experienced team. I like it.
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Matthias Cormann is the only real surprise there.
A couple of shadow ministers have missed out... Ian Macdonald, Teresa Gambaro and (hooray) Sophie Mirabella. Mirabella still looking unlikely to hold her seat against the independent.
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Abbott comes to power and for the first time in 80 years there isn't a Minister for Sciences. That's not a good look. Can't wait for him to name his Minister for Inquisitions. And what exactly does a "minister assisting the prime minister on the public service" do? Do they stand there, straighten his tie and wipe smudges off his cheek before speaking engagements? Do they make sure there's a shoehorn on the lectern so he can get his foot out of his mouth? WHAT DO THEY DO?! No12 wrote:afromanGT wrote:girtXc wrote:afromanGT wrote:So, everyone ready for a recession? What makes you think it can get any worse. We are already there from my observations, particularly the last 18 months with the unprecedented number of manufacturing job losses It's not affecting me but so many others are under extreme financial stress Was talking with a mate about it last night (who's actually qualified in the financial fields). Basically he hypothesised Liberal government continues to financially protect Baby Boomers, resulting in continued increase in land prices and higher mortgages (including for baby boomers) who pass on that cost in rent, pushing up commercial property costs and thus product costs, thus continually devaluing the dollar and driving recession. Maybe this has something to do with our property pricing? THE PROPERTY OBSERVER INSIGHT "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market," says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. Categories Australian Capital Territory New South Wales Queensland Victoria Tasmania South Australia Western Australia Northern Territory Property News Trends Economy International China watch Foreign investment Chinese appetite for Australian residential property hits $5.4 billion as demand for luxury property rises By Larry Schlesinger Friday, 19 July 2013 The value of Australian residential property purchased by Chinese-based buyers reached $5.4 billion in the 2013 financial year, according to figures from Chinese property portal Juwai.com. This is around a 25% increase on US$4 billion ($4 billion to $4.2 billion in local currency) of Australian property purchased by Chinese buyers in 2011. "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market,” says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. "The properties that will have the most success with Chinese buyers are located in major metropolitan areas or in growing mining areas, are working farms or are new developments Excessive foreign ownership isn't helping. Chinese nationals can only own one domestic property in China so they're investing here and it isn't helping the housing market one iota. VACANT LAND near where I grew up in Melbourne's South East was divided up into 1/4 acre blocks and sold off, they were all bought by Chinese investors and the CHEAPEST block of land went for $1.2m. That's insane.
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thupercoach
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Afro, Abbott clearly forgot to consult with you.
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afromanGT wrote:Abbott comes to power and for the first time in 80 years there isn't a Minister for Sciences. That's not a good look. Can't wait for him to name his Minister for Inquisitions. And what exactly does a "minister assisting the prime minister on the public service" do? Do they stand there, straighten his tie and wipe smudges off his cheek before speaking engagements? Do they make sure there's a shoehorn on the lectern so he can get his foot out of his mouth? WHAT DO THEY DO?! No12 wrote:afromanGT wrote:girtXc wrote:afromanGT wrote:So, everyone ready for a recession? What makes you think it can get any worse. We are already there from my observations, particularly the last 18 months with the unprecedented number of manufacturing job losses It's not affecting me but so many others are under extreme financial stress Was talking with a mate about it last night (who's actually qualified in the financial fields). Basically he hypothesised Liberal government continues to financially protect Baby Boomers, resulting in continued increase in land prices and higher mortgages (including for baby boomers) who pass on that cost in rent, pushing up commercial property costs and thus product costs, thus continually devaluing the dollar and driving recession. Maybe this has something to do with our property pricing? THE PROPERTY OBSERVER INSIGHT "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market," says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. Categories Australian Capital Territory New South Wales Queensland Victoria Tasmania South Australia Western Australia Northern Territory Property News Trends Economy International China watch Foreign investment Chinese appetite for Australian residential property hits $5.4 billion as demand for luxury property rises By Larry Schlesinger Friday, 19 July 2013 The value of Australian residential property purchased by Chinese-based buyers reached $5.4 billion in the 2013 financial year, according to figures from Chinese property portal Juwai.com. This is around a 25% increase on US$4 billion ($4 billion to $4.2 billion in local currency) of Australian property purchased by Chinese buyers in 2011. "Chinese make up the fastest growing buyer group in an otherwise relatively slow Australian real estate market,” says Simon Henry, co-CEO of Juwai.com. "The properties that will have the most success with Chinese buyers are located in major metropolitan areas or in growing mining areas, are working farms or are new developments Excessive foreign ownership isn't helping. Chinese nationals can only own one domestic property in China so they're investing here and it isn't helping the housing market one iota. VACANT LAND near where I grew up in Melbourne's South East was divided up into 1/4 acre blocks and sold off, they were all bought by Chinese investors and the CHEAPEST block of land went for $1.2m. That's insane. where were you when Cubbie station was sold???? and the 1,000,000 acre Indonesian cattle station proposed??
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afromanGT
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batfink wrote:where were you when Cubbie station was sold????
and the 1,000,000 acre Indonesian cattle station proposed?? Why are you talking about agricultural land when we're clearly referring to residential land? While I believe that there should be laws restricting the amount of foreign ownership of any of Australia's resources, it has no relevance to the topic to which I was referring.
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