ABC bashers are way out of step with public opinion, according to years of polling

http://inside.org.au/yes-it-is-our-abc/#.Up_4E2w9S1o.reddit

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After the big scary petition to smash the ABC that finky posted earlier that had barely over 500 signatures, getup's petition to save the ABC has hit 150,000 signatures.

https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/media/save-the-abc--2/save-the-abc

Get on it.

QFT

Disastrous first 100 days for the coalition.

The ABC has always leaned towards the left. I didn't think this was something up for debate?

I signed that petition BTW. ABC provides some of the best programming on Australian television. I shudder to think of a world where The Project is the leading current affairs program on TV.

There is no evidence to back this claim.

In fact, a recent study suggests that ABC favours slightly more conservative stories.

Here you go, from 2009.

Study finds ABC bias leans towards Coalition

http://www.theage.com.au/business/study-finds-abc-bias-leans-towards-coalition-20090902-f8gm.html

But,but,but........

It's almost like Hempel's paradox.
All media is biased.
All media is right wing biased.
ABC isn't right wing biased.
Therefore it must be left wing biased.

Ravens are black.
Shoes are black.
Therefore Ravens are Shoes.
Apples are not black.
Therefore Ravens are not apples.

Edited by afromanGT: 5/12/2013 11:55:25 PM

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i don't deny that some journalists within certain media outlets are biased in their content or views, BUT the ABC is suppose to be neutral as it is a government funded organisation and it is suppose to be objective......fark if SBS can do it why can't the ABC

so you are saying SBS are LNP biased????

let's see if you cop the abuse i do for your statement.....

i think not...:-" :-" :-" :-" :-"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

oh look a study conducted by Andrew Leigh a member of the labor party,

yes i can see how objective and accurate this study would be, probably funded by the Labor party as well

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Andrew Leigh
Member of the Australian House of Representatives
Andrew Keith Leigh is an Australian politician and former professor of economics at the Australian National University. He has been a Labor member of the Australian House of Representatives since 2010, representing the seat of Fraser. Wikipedia
Born: August 3, 1972 (age 41), Sydney
Spouse: Gweneth Leigh
Office: Member of the Australian Parliament since 2010
Party: Australian Labor Party

How does SBS programming differ that much from the ABC lol?

I watch both fairly heavily and think they're pretty spot on.

If outlets like ABC/SBS don't put political parties like the LNP to the sword when they fuck up, then who will?

-PB

He won't because he's right.

The Project is a pos.

-PB

Wow, dismissing a study partly worked on by someone that went on to be a Labor MP.

I guess that makes the entire body of work by all MPs prior to entering parliament completely illegitimate.

c'mon Matt....don't be naive.....

if that was a study conducted by a LNP member you would be shouting from the highest rooftops

Edited by batfink: 6/12/2013 08:54:57 AM

Telstra records our phone calls, SMS and emails for the government

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstras-data-vacuum-20131205-2yucb.html

It was a study conducted by an independent body, funded by the Howard government. The methodology was completely transparent also, so any tampering with data to suit an ALP agenda would easily be picked up.

If you would like to prove that a peer reviewed, independent study is false because a contributor went on to become a member of parliament after the scope of the study was long over, by all means present your case.

He joined the Labour party AFTER the article was written...

:oops:

-PB

Meh most of my shit is encrypted by default.

-PB

Hey, The Project isn't so bad. It's always amusing to watch Charlie Pickering's smugness all week only for him to get shown up every time Waleed Aly is on the show.

lol true true although I don't watch it very often (or any commercial TV tbh).

-PB

so by your logic, if Andrew Bolt joined the liberal party today, you wouldn't have an issue with any of his previous blogs being right wing orientated?????

Andrew Bolt doesn't do peer reviewed study.

I also don't have a problem with Andrew Bolts blogs being right winged now, I have a problem when he continues to post factual inaccuracies when he has been proven to be wrong many times over, particularly in regards to climate change.

You may do well to go back and check the media watch archives. They were one of the biggest critics of the outcomes of the lawsuits against Bolt and the impact that it had on the implicit right to free speech for media identities.

They still need a subpoena to access any information found - so even if they have a couple of 'trigger words' they need court approval to obtain your details, and then another subpoena to tap your phone further. So even though the information is there there's still a lot they have to do to access it.

NO...you state that Leigh was a Labor member AFTER the study, so could not have been biased,

please Matt he would be elft wing leaning before he joined the party, can you really be so gullible to believe one day he woke up and decided to be a leftie and joined the ALP and suddenly developed a left leaning????

surely you jest....

Do we even know if he is a "leftie"?

You do realise that the ALP has both right and left factions, right?