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Malcolm Farr the political editor of news.com.au is notorious lefty. You clearly don't visit news websites enough to comment intelligently.

So this is an example of being pro-NBN?

http://www.news.com.au/finance/the-ninety-billion-nightmare-the-real-cost-of-the-nbn-rollout/story-e6frfm1i-1226614471419

Note: The estimate they ran the headline on (ie, direct from the opposition) was wildly inaccurate. It was out by $34 billion on even what the highest estimate of what the current (ie, planted by Liberals) board of NBN believes it would cost to have rolled out the original 93% FTTP 7% Sat/Wireless plan.

Suffice to say, news.com.au has not published an article like this one:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/coalition-lied-about-true-cost-of-nbn-jason-clare-20140218-hvcvh.html

http://www.news.com.au/technology/how-fast-is-the-nbn-compared-to-the-coalitions-internet-plan/story-e6frfro0-1226637554402

http://www.news.com.au/technology/twitterati-dismiss-oppositions-nbn-policy-with-witty-memes/story-e6frfro0-1226617308069

http://www.news.com.au/national/coalition8217s-nbn-plan-laughed-at-in-labor-video/story-fnho52qo-1226704801510

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Malcolm Turnbull trumps Tony Abbott in poll
Date
February 21, 2014
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Matthew Knott
Communications and education correspondent

Former Liberal Party leader Malcolm Turnbull remains more popular than Prime Minister Tony Abbott almost six months after the Coalition came to power, a new national opinion poll shows.

The UMR Research poll of 1000 people, commissioned by the Australian Education Union, also carries bad news for Education Minister Christopher Pyne's personal popularity and policy agenda.

Forty-two per cent of voters rated Mr Turnbull's performance positively compared to 30 per cent who rated him negatively - a net 20 percentage point advantage over Mr Abbott.

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Joe Hockey was also more popular than Mr Abbott, with 39 per cent rating the Treasurer's performance positively and 37 per cent negatively. Forty-six per cent of respondents had a negative view of Mr Abbott's performance, compared with 38 per cent with a positive view. Mr Pyne was the least popular of the four; only 30 per cent approved of his performance while 43 per cent disapproved.

When voters were asked to give the men a score out of 10, Mr Turnbull, who is Communications Minister, received an average score of 5.2. Mr Hockey received 4.8, Mr Abbott 4.3, and Mr Pyne 4.1. The Abbott government received an average score of 4.4.

The poll found that 63 per cent of voters believed the Abbott government should fund the Gonski schools package in full for six years while 37 per cent said that would be unaffordable. The government has committed to only four full years of Gonski funding.

Seventy-five per cent of people said the public school system needed more funding, compared with 28 per cent who said the private school sector needed more funding. Forty-seven per cent of respondents said the level of funding for public schools was too low and only 1 per cent said it was too high. Thirty-seven per cent said the funding for private schools was too high while 7 per cent said it was too low.

The poll found 47 per cent of people believed Opposition Leader Bill Shorten would prioritise investing in public schools in their area, compared with 27 per cent for Mr Abbott. Fifty-seven per cent believed Mr Abbott would prioritise elite private schools compared to 10 per cent for Mr Shorten. Forty-nine per cent said Mr Abbott would prioritise Catholic schools, compared with 17 per cent for Mr Shorten.

"This is further evidence to show it's time for the prime minister to get in step with the community on education, and back the full six years of Gonski for every state and territory," AEU president Angelo Gavrielatos said.

Mr Pyne did not respond to requests for comment. The poll, taken January 22-27, had a margin of error of 3.1 per cent.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-trumps-tony-abbott-in-poll-20140220-334c3.html#ixzz2ttZHiIed

Do not pop the Champaign just yet Joffa, the UMR Research poll of 1000 people, commissioned by the Australian Education Union, they can twist this polls anyway you like.
AEU would love M. Turnbull for PM, next best thing than Labor in the government.
This forum is your best poll how Tony Abbott ranks. It took weeks to have something posted on here.

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Legend.

-PB

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man someone beat me to it. So fucking good

I'm sure it was a great speech, it's just a shame there was nobody in the chamber to hear it.

It's the Senate . No one is hardly in the Senate :lol:

Yeah when it boils down to it Greens are the masters of slogans only they contain one word rather than three.

Wow, the senile and idealistic youth of today vote left wing? Who would've guessed? :roll:

His speech degenerated into standard left wing rhetoric, re: Captain Haddocks post.
Thank god the Greens will never have any real power in this country, I shudder to think what would happen.

Edited by 433: 6/3/2014 12:17:54 AM

The greens would prefer not to have any real power, that would require subjecting their policies to the reality test, which would end very very badly for them. The greens will always be fringe ideologues whose mo is throwing stones from the sidelines rather than playing the game.

Any real power?

Would have figured any seat in parliament or the senate is regarded as "real power" for any party of politics.

Just like your single vote is important.

Very short sided way of thinking regardless of what side of the fence you are on.

-PB

Feel free to actually argue against his points at any stage

Points? It was just the usual name-calling so typical of the Left...

Damn that left wing rhetoric about an entire generation of youth being priced out of affordable housing by Baby Boomers as well as native Chinese.

Always playing the affordable housing card.

How is that Abbott's fault? :lol:

Not saying it's his fault, but he's in charge now so he can fix it. If he wanted to. Get rid of negative gearing, superannuation tax breaks, ban foreigners buying existing housing as well as removing foreign investor migration (like Canada did as they saw the writing on the wall in Vancouver).

Right wing racism!!!

"Murderous rampage on Manus Island"

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Stopped listening there, what a fuckwit.

Thoroughly enjoyed the speech but disagree on Australia's ability to become entirely dependant on renewable energy sources, other than that it was all quality.

Oh this is good.

Interesting to see what this Commission looks at RE: Fair Work.

Can see a lot of things going out the window.

-PB

Ignore page count, just note number on the front

DateMarch 8, 2014

Michael West

Rural communities riven in dissent, angry blockades, a grazier chained to a drill rig, farmers arm-in-arm at the barricades with greenies, the conservative Sydney talk show host Alan Jones allied with liberal Fairfax Media types.

These are strange times. For industry to ramp up its coal seam gas projects - in the face of the attacks by environmentalists and errant farmers hell-bent on poisoning the green shoots of economic activity - it has to step up its campaign.

Get those independent experts on the blower. Come out with new findings. For it is an immutable law of expert reports that the thicker the pile of paper, the lower the risk that anybody will read it. The big number on the front page is what counts.

This is the official industry line: ''The natural gas industry was responsible for an estimated 100,000 Australian jobs last year.''


Never mind that total additional jobs in Australia last year was 173,537 (in other words, 58 per cent of all job creation must have been related to gas). And never mind that total employment in oil and gas was just 9372, they still managed to get to 100,000.

It's a round number, it's a good number, but it's just not big enough. Expand the methodology: make it Australasia, not just Australia. Make it part-time jobs, too. Introduce a measure of new jobs, say ''putative jobs'', which estimates the number of people who might have accepted a job had the pay and conditions been suitable to their tastes.

Mind you, they did give it a shot. Try this one from Santos last year: ''[CSG miners] secure the more than 15,000 industrial jobs which are dependent on gas supply as a feed-stock, and the future of 2.5 million people who are employed by those companies who use natural gas for power.''

Nice number. It seems Santos got there by including anybody who had a gas heater in the office. The figure was barely questioned, except for an Australia Institute paper that had the cheek to point out that the Bureau of Resources and Energy Economics showed 91 per cent of gas consumed by businesses in Australia was consumed by miners and manufacturers. Data from the Bureau of Statistics moreover showed these sectors employed 300,000 workers in NSW.

So, of the 2.5 million jobs the gas industry claims to support, 2.2 million are employed in businesses that use gas for running the hot water taps in the bathroom.

Let's not forget Allen Consulting, whose interesting modelling found Santos' CSG expansion in North West NSW would generate 2900 indirect jobs from just 200 jobs and boost the state economy by $470 million per year. These 200 actual jobs would also create 570 public sector jobs, it claimed.

Not a bad effort from Allen, but they could have used stronger language. Their work on auto subsidies was crowned by this: ''The economies of Adelaide and Melbourne would be devastated.'' The word ''devastated'' got a big run in the media. Job done.

Zeros tolerance

The hour has come for the gas industry to embrace the services of the Hunter Valley Research Foundation. Putting those consultants from the Big Smoke to the sword, the HVRF found - in a study supporting Rio Tinto's Warkworth coalmine application - that 45,000 jobs would be created. Not bad for an extension to a mine with 1300 workers.

In the appendix to the report, HVRF had included no fewer than 29 industry sectors that stood to benefit from job creation, including ''rock lobster and prawn fishing, fin-fish trawling and squid jiggling'' as well as ''tobacco, cigarettes, cigars and snuff''.

Snuff might sound a bit old-fashioned, but tattoos are back in vogue so why rule out growth in snuff employment? ''Shipbuilding and aircraft manufacturing'', ''toiletries wholesaling'', even ''psychiatric hospitals'' were there too … with snuff. The Australia Institute also questioned the modelling on this one. Still, Rio got its approval.

We ought to given an honourable mention, too, to Gillespie Economics, which did the study for the T4 coal export terminal at Newcastle. In its 322-page humdinger, which also deployed the HVRF's ''Input-Output'' model, Gillespie estimated the net present value of the project at $60 billion.

It contained a cutting-edge measure of ''14,650 job years''. Better than just jobs. A worker might have to have the same job every year, thereby eliminating the opportunity to break out years of employment as separate jobs.

Another source of inspiration can be found in Acil Tasman's modelling for the Australian Beverages Council, which was used to claim a container deposit scheme would cost households $300 a year.

The gas industry has done a superlative job of convincing politicians of the urgent need for CSG - with the exception of Victoria, where a moratorium remains in place. Indeed, there has already been strong job creation in the ''relations'' sector, that is, media relations, government relations and community relations.

Sometimes they slip up, though. At a town hall meeting for AGL's Gloucester project, for instance, a spokesman was asked how many local jobs would arise. Unwittingly, he broke the cardinal rule of the relations sector and told the truth. Stage one of the project would give rise to 11 or 12 jobs. He forgot to add the zeros.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/ignore-page-count-just-note-number-on-the-front-20140307-34cre.html#ixzz2vNjXuHB5

Interest rates stuck on hold despite unemployment

DateMarch 7, 2014

Interest rates look set to remain at the same levels for a period of time, even as the jobless rate continues to rise as the economy transitions away from a dependence on mining investment growth.

RBA governor Glenn Stevens told the House Economics Committee that "very accommodative" monetary policy was supporting credit growth and construction in the housing sector.

"We have signalled the likelihood, if the economy evolves more or less as expected, of a period of stability in the cash rate," Dr Stevens said in his opening statement to the committee, which is sitting in Sydney.

"As well as the low level of interest rates generally, a sense of stability should be of some help for businesses and households as they form their plans."

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But he also warned that there was uncertainty about the handover from mining to non-minig sectors of the economy, even as such a shift appeared to have started.

"Will the additional demand likely to be generated outside mining as a result of these trends be just the right amount to offset the large decline in mining investment spending, so keeping the economy near full employment?" Mr Stevens asked.

"No one can answer that question with great confidence."

Dr Stevens shied away from talking down the exchange rate further, only saying that jawboning is when he opines that the Australian dollar's "long-run equilibrium is somewhat lower than what it was trading at the time".

The governor declined to comment on whether he wanted the currency to trade below US90c, saying that "one can't be especially precise" but that he stood beside he previous comments on the currency.

Dr Stevens and Dr Lowe said they expected the unemployment rate to rise until early 2015, as population growth continues to outstrip jobs growth and with the labour market data expected to lag economic activity as it improves.

The RBA forecasts the jobless rate to "peak at early 2015 and stay at those levels for a while", Dr Lowe said, adding that it was "not until late 2015 where there is sufficient [employment] growth in our forecasts".

"Employment growth [at this time] is not sufficient to bring the unemployment rate down ... population growth is still growing pretty strong," he added.

More to come


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/interest-rates-stuck-on-hold-despite-unemployment-20140307-34bc6.html#ixzz2vNmnN0Y3

Yeah, I always hated when Juliar, KRUdd and Electricity Bill Shorten would just get away with name calling, the honourable right would never stoop to such pathetic levels.