paulbagzFC
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Keen to start lettin rip on the old N and C words. -PB
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macktheknife
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So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions?
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UnitedGal
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Pretty much macktheknife
Im guessing the ABC can take back the apology to Andrew Bolt and Abbas be the one to say sorry to Santalab...
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Yeah, seriously, what fucken century do we live in?
Bolt is such a vagina.
The fact that he got the ABC to apologise.
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rusty wrote:How about some positive press about having no unauthorised boat arrivals for three months. They all want to focus on the rather little teeny weeny issue of a couple of burnt hands, rather than the lives saved. It's just a red herring to divert attention from the coalitions successful border protection regime, that's why neither Navy nor government will give those dubious claims any credence. Claims of naval officers assaulting refugees is far from a red herring. Australia's policies are already frowned upon by the rest of the world and this only exacerbates it. How can you claim no boats have arrived when you've got no proof?
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rusty
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afromanGT wrote:rusty wrote:How about some positive press about having no unauthorised boat arrivals for three months. They all want to focus on the rather little teeny weeny issue of a couple of burnt hands, rather than the lives saved. It's just a red herring to divert attention from the coalitions successful border protection regime, that's why neither Navy nor government will give those dubious claims any credence. Claims of naval officers assaulting refugees is far from a red herring. Australia's policies are already frowned upon by the rest of the world and this only exacerbates it. How can you claim no boats have arrived when you've got no proof? You can't prove a negative, it's up to you to prove boats are still sneaking in under the radar, otherwise we can confidently take the ministers and Navy's public statements at face value. I have no doubt boats have stopped arriving, I think anyone who doubts is a diabolical lunatic, and not worth conversing with. Even most labor and greens arent contesting the statistics, only deluded paranoid schizoid freaks are. How can you prove those refugees claiming to be have had their hands burnt are indeed refugees, and not some alien impostors from planet zog? In respect to what other nations think about our border protection policies, firstly who really cares what they think, we don't have to design our polices based around what's acceptable to foreigners. You might as well just hand the keys over to foreigners, if that's the case. Secondly no one really knows what Australia does, just because the ABC is vocal about refugees doesn't mean the world watches the ABC. Most would struggle to name our capital city, if you think Australia's border policies is the big issue on the BBC and CNN, you are having severe delusions of grandeur. Australia is just mostly a non entity, sorry to say. We are far better known for Vegemite and skippy than our refugee policies. Thirdly we've permanently resettled the second highest number of refugees in history, our contributions to refugees tramples that of most other countries, so if anyone wants to have a dig at Australia we can kindly just point out the facts. Edited by rusty: 25/3/2014 11:52:18 PM
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humbert
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macktheknife wrote:So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Not your finest moment, Mack. Edited by humbert: 25/3/2014 11:53:29 PM
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humbert
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RedKat wrote:macktheknife wrote:So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions? Pretty much. But its all in the name of free speech so all good. Not at all surprised to find you in agreement. Classic Red Kat. Edit: Can't tell the difference between the two. Edited by humbert: 25/3/2014 11:50:35 PM
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paulbagzFC
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I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now? If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't. The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it. -PB
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macktheknife
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humbert wrote:macktheknife wrote:So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Not your finest moment, Mack. By accurately stating the net effect of a new piece of legislation designed specifically so Bolt no longer has to risk getting hauled before court (again) because they are a convicted racist?
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macktheknife wrote:So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions? From what Brandis and Abbott have been saying, vilification would remain illegal; Bolt would still be guilty.
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paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's simple. When most of us think of a persecuted minority, we think of Aboriginal people. When the liberals think of a persecuted minority, they think of Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. You think every News Ltd paper endorsed the liberals at the last election for no price?
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Lastbroadcast wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's simple. When most of us think of a persecuted minority, we think of Aboriginal people. When the liberals think of a persecuted minority, they think of Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. You think every News Ltd paper endorsed the liberals at the last election for no price? Are you implying the government surreptitiously negotiated with News Ltd their election support on the proviso they repeal 18C in order to give free reign to Bolt and co? :oops:
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Lastbroadcast wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's simple. When most of us think of a persecuted minority, we think of Aboriginal people. When the liberals think of a persecuted minority, they think of Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. You think every News Ltd paper endorsed the liberals at the last election for no price? We don't need to give persecuted minorities any more reason to have a whinge about the white devil :roll:
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paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's a nod and a wink to one of their biggest supporters. A Mr A. Bolt.
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rusty wrote:Lastbroadcast wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's simple. When most of us think of a persecuted minority, we think of Aboriginal people. When the liberals think of a persecuted minority, they think of Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. You think every News Ltd paper endorsed the liberals at the last election for no price? Are you implying the government surreptitiously negotiated with News Ltd their election support on the proviso they repeal 18C in order to give free reign to Bolt and co? :oops: They didn't have to negotiate anything. They saw how Murdoch behaved when the last Labor government tried to make press regulations actually enforcable - they put Steven Conroy on the front page next to pictures of Stalin and Hitler. Never the less, you'd have to be naive to think that this sort of stuff doesn't go on. Look how Tony Blair buttered up to Rupert Murdoch in the years before the 1997 British election. He even flew out to a conference in the pacific that Rupert organised, and was the Keynote speaker. A few years later, The Sun endorsed the Labour party. Rupert's reward? Labour let him buy into pay TV. It goes on in Australia too. For example, John Howard buttering up to Kerry Packer before the 1996 election: http://youtu.be/90eUwR1EHSIEdited by Lastbroadcast: 26/3/2014 11:05:11 AM
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free to air television is already complete and utter rubbish it couldnt get any worse so who cares
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rusty wrote:Lastbroadcast wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:I still don't understand the "why" behind doing it right now?
If this were some other policy and it was tagged with the usual "this will save x million dollars from our budget" etc etc then I would understand, but this doesn't.
The timing of it is just so strange and I would really love to see the motives behind it.
-PB It's simple. When most of us think of a persecuted minority, we think of Aboriginal people. When the liberals think of a persecuted minority, they think of Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. You think every News Ltd paper endorsed the liberals at the last election for no price? Are you implying the government surreptitiously negotiated with News Ltd their election support on the proviso they repeal 18C in order to give free reign to Bolt and co? :oops: The ABC reported it so it must be true!
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The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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paulbagzFC
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ricecrackers wrote:free to air television is already complete and utter rubbish it couldnt get any worse so who cares Pretty farken much. IPTV/internet is the way of the future. -PB
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humbert
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macktheknife wrote:humbert wrote:macktheknife wrote:So from what I could tell, if this passes (is passed already?) Old Bolty could go and write an article about how the Jews/Muslims/Aboriginals/Refugees are fucking everything up and should all be shot, and that'd be fine because he'd be using one of the exemptions? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Not your finest moment, Mack. By accurately stating the net effect of a new piece of legislation designed specifically so Bolt no longer has to risk getting hauled before court (again) because they are a convicted racist? Please identify this provision in the new legislation.
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paulbagzFC
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Man what's the go with selling off Medibank Private? Will any level of Government have any assets left within the next decade? -PB
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i find it interesting that a private health insurance company called Medibank Private was owned by the government in the first place
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rusty
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paulbagzFC wrote:Man what's the go with selling off Medibank Private?
Will any level of Government have any assets left within the next decade?
-PB It's usually the intention of both sides of politics to sell off public assets in mature markers like healthcare. It was even the intention of Labor to sell off the NBN eventually. Medibank does make a nice dividend but the proceeds of sale are going to be used to build toll roads which will improve infrastructure and continue revenue collection through the payment of tolls (rather than premiums).
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BETHFC
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ricecrackers wrote:i find it interesting that a private health insurance company called Medibank Private was owned by the government in the first place I actually agree. Why does the government need to own a private health company?
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Quote:QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman has been given a pay rise of almost $70,000.
The Queensland Independent Remuneration Tribunal decided the base salary of Queensland MPs last October, and on Thursday made a ruling on additional pay for office holders.
Mr Newman will get a 21.8 per cent increase to his annual salary, taking it to $379,562.
The hike will be back paid from July 2013.
Mr Newman’s wage is about $50,000 less than United States President Barack Obama, however the tribunal says the premier has a lot fewer perks. For fucks sake. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Quote:QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman has been given a pay rise of almost $70,000.
The Queensland Independent Remuneration Tribunal decided the base salary of Queensland MPs last October, and on Thursday made a ruling on additional pay for office holders.
Mr Newman will get a 21.8 per cent increase to his annual salary, taking it to $379,562.
The hike will be back paid from July 2013.
Mr Newman’s wage is about $50,000 less than United States President Barack Obama, however the tribunal says the premier has a lot fewer perks. For fucks sake. -PB GAGF Campbell. We should make politicians work on an incentives package where by they earn more not being another useless idiot.
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paulbagzFC wrote:Man what's the go with selling off Medibank Private?
Will any level of Government have any assets left within the next decade?
-PB Sure, except it'll be the Chinese government. :lol:
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benelsmore wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Quote:QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman has been given a pay rise of almost $70,000.
The Queensland Independent Remuneration Tribunal decided the base salary of Queensland MPs last October, and on Thursday made a ruling on additional pay for office holders.
Mr Newman will get a 21.8 per cent increase to his annual salary, taking it to $379,562.
The hike will be back paid from July 2013.
Mr Newman’s wage is about $50,000 less than United States President Barack Obama, however the tribunal says the premier has a lot fewer perks. For fucks sake. -PB GAGF Campbell. We should make politicians work on an incentives package where by they earn more not being another useless idiot. And the kunt will have it backpaid as well. Wtf. -PB
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If you're going to wage war against public servant salaries best start with the ABC and their managing director, Mark Scott, who is paid nearly twice that of any state premier to run a biased B grade news service. There's a stack of waste going in the public service which is one the perils of having big government and so many useless positions and excessive salaries.
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